Mini 1504 - Antihero Mafia REBOOT [GAME OVER]
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No the ones from today - that has been entirely about Paschendale.In post 1121, The Grim Reaper wrote:You are scum regardless of Paschendale's flip. The arguments we've had have revolved around much more than just Paschendale.
And of your 3 excellent points, 1 of them was not factual. 1 of them I explained is about Thor specifically voting to L - 1 and the context behind it. The last one is blatantly ignoring anything that I said about Thor's slot D1.
The rest of your post is just quoting things Ive said that are not interesting and assigning scum motive to them.
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This is prety shallow. I realize asked for something basic, but... since when is disdainful uselessness towny?In post 1124, The Grim Reaper wrote:Varsoon due to his disdainful uslesness.
Thor due to his haughty usefulness.
And Thor is haughty regardless of alignment. And him posting walls is certainly not useful on it own.-
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WOAH WOAH WOAH. YOU PROMISED ME THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN:In post 1127, The Grim Reaper wrote:I want you to know I enjoyed this. Thank you AP <3
In post 1089, The Grim Reaper wrote:Let's see if I can recover from this Swiss fondue without exploding/falling asleep. Really want to delve into Angry Pidgeon right now, in the most non-sexual way imaginable. But cheese fatigue is setting in.
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This pings very wrong.In post 1158, Darthe wrote:Cool. Let's do this then. You would save me tons of effort.
But really though. You wanna lynch someone for not playing when they say they finally have time to play.. Go for it.
Mollie never said why she was lynching you and you just posted a pretty big waffle on me with no satisfying conclusion.
Your content looks busy and your reaction to pressure is to assign a weak reason for it existing and AtE about it.-
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You were also voting JKLM and expressed early suspicion of him IIRC. If you want to point out Im on a mislynch, feel free. But the way you are going about this feels dirty, ESPECIALLY considering you snuck on the wagon near the end of the day.In post 1155, Darthe wrote:And how did that JKLM vote go?-
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In post 1132, mastin2 wrote:Vote: AngryPidgeon.
Because he's probably scum, and even if he's not, I'll end up thinking he is anyway.
Ive been with him in /in-15 with you and that Mykonian game with Thor. Why?In post 1133, mastin2 wrote:For the curious, I'm wondering...what's people's experience with Quilford?
Talk to me about this Thor read please. I haven't parsed Thors walls very well, but Varsoon's complete inability to justify himself and intentional focus on being abrasive is scummy. Its like what I would do as scum - start arguments and do my best to upset other people and blend into the smoke I make. I see that through and through looking at Varsoon's ISO. No effort to scumhunt, getting reads before evidence, and in general, playing proscum by being abrasive and blending his lack of content into AtE all over.In post 1133, mastin2 wrote:Side-note: Thor's slot looks town, as does Belisarius's slot.-
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I want your read on Grim when you have time. They are someone I intend to reread. I have experience with town Grim recently in thisIn post 1133, mastin2 wrote:This post is also quite scummy, soyeah. Will move my vote to here in a bit. (For the moment, though, I'm keeping my vote on AP simply to tick him off. )
I am seeing a lot of similarities to what I know of Grim town, but he feels..off. His push on me feels contrived and it pings that he is actively trying to tie me to Paschendale by pointing out my waffly read on him. I expect big things from him - I was genuinely afraid of him in that linked game. I'm not feeling a strong DESIRE to be protown and transparently so that he seemed to have in that game.
Some things they do feel overtly self aware, and there are a few points that Grimgroove specifically has made that felt forced like he was going out of his way to pass judgment on things unnecessarily.-
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Majiffy and I seem to be the only people interested in this at all. Everyone I've brought them up to refuses to talk about them.In post 1133, mastin2 wrote:Would be interested in hearing what people think of Lying Cat, though.-
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Re underlined: I've been calling you townish for a while today..In post 1137, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:ap: I actually like a lot of what he's said,even if he's wrong about me. he's been aggressive and loud and pushing just about every single person. more town than the rest in this section. the null mostly comes from paranoia that he's one of those players who's just loud and aggressive all the time, and he's probably really good at being scum. that unnerves me a lot actually. I'm not quite ready to give him a full town read just yet.
I see you had me in your town list and forgot to remove it. That 'slip' feels honest to me. I kind of doubt scum EtL put me in the town heap and then moved me to null and forgot the old listing. Very inclined to think this is a genuine town slip from EtL.-
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Any reason for mastin losing Buck's town lean or are you just trying to be unbiased?In post 1137, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:mastin: null because I've never completed any games with him. I know nothing about his style, and Buck was not really a strong town read prior to replacing. I'd like to see what he has to say when he's finished catching up.
"Manipulative" is a pretty generic accusation and I would say townies are capable of being manipulative when they want their way done. What reads did they reevaluate that felt townish?In post 1137, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:grim: At first I thought he was town because he seemed to be making good inquiries of other players.Then I thought he was scum because he seemed to be pretty manipulative.Then I thought he was town because he was willing to reevaluate his reads. Since day 2 started, I'm leaning more towards town on him, but the fact that he's attempting to set me up for a mislynch down the road when it becomes convenient is disturbing, making me think he's scum. So... I have no fucking clue.-
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Townreading you makes me suspicious because? Playing mafia not-sober is the swag way to play mafia.In post 1170, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I did until i had another beer and let my thoughts get loose. You talk too much. And i missed you town read on me. That makes you more suspicious, not less. -.-
You feel genuine. Your reads are fluid and you aren't afraid to state thoughts as you have them even if they don't have a very concrete conclusion.-
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So anybody townreading you is too suspicious to be in your townlist? You should look into reasons for being put there rather than the act itself.In post 1178, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Anyone town reading me right now gives me pause.
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What do you think about his interactions with Grim? Him calling the slot town so aggressively pings me, but I don't really see them scum/scum.In post 1137, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:pasch: I checked his ISO. My town read was mostly gut but I do like how he defended himself when grim was pushing him mid-day 1. Biggest issue here that knocked him from town to null is the fact that he opposed the JKLM lynch pretty vocally only to join it just to avoid "being a stick in the mud".-
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Why not with Darthe or Thor? I see those are your top reads, so you really don't think Pasch can be scum with them and you have him as null? I'm curious why you think that.In post 1183, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Well, i dont know. If pasch is scum, i could see grim as the partner, if you just isolate just those two but with darthe or thor, i dont think so.
Is this Pasch being calm read meta-related? I'll say he WAS notably different in shadows and lights where I was aggressively mislynching him. He was more abrasive and omgusy and was town. That game was multiball and I did really think he was scum in it though, lol. ( I was scum) ((with mastin as my hydra buddy >.>))-
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And here I used to be the most useful town player on the site and defaulting to townIn post 1200, mastin2 wrote:
If it makes you feel better...I think you're, quite frankly, currently THE most dangerous scum player on the site. Other scum players are dangerous, yes. But nobody's as down-right convincing as you are as far as I'm concerned. (Thus, defaulting to a scumread. )In post 214, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also Im a little offended that you think Majiffy is more dangerous scum than me
Quite possibly.In post 1204, mastin2 wrote:
I'm pretty much doing the same things with my reads. Am I scum for it, AP?In post 293, AngryPidgeon wrote:Grim you are asking a lot of pointed questions to Pasch but it seems like you've kind of decided hes scum and are just rolling with that.
Im just gonna point out that FnL suspected a large part of the player list at various points and you have quoted them suspecting 5-6 people and are saying that is why they were killed. Quit forcing bad cases that shouldn't be forced mastin.
Did you learn nothing from my scum play in 2+2? You even trying to read into my lists is terrible. And my last game with you as scum (2p2) I aggressively bussed the shit out of buddies D1 mostly for personal amusement. That you are ranting in here that I am scum and hard defending buddies does not really add up given that.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5410067
Mollie, I'd like to discuss this post with you when you are around
Fuck you for calling my posts a scum claim.In post 1251, mastin2 wrote:
This reads as a scumclaim.In post 953, AngryPidgeon wrote:GG, if you are scum then good job. If you are town, then you haven't figured out how I operate. I'm curious - do you think my play is comparable to Hidden Temple at all?
/blowing towncred.
Right, so mastin comes in and spamposts the thread and suddenly I'm the lynch over Paschendale despite you tunneling the crap out of that all yesterday and today? "AP falling off the town cliff" -> lets sheep mastin on this.In post 1265, Majiffy wrote:Better question: why the fuck did it take you so long to townread?
VOTE: AP
Lets kill it before it can wiggle away.
And it is not scummy for Majiffy to have done so? I played a scumgame briefly with Buck http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=23831. Read his ISO, its short as fuck. I remember cringing in that game as I read his posts because I figured he was gonna get lynched for being obvious newbie scum. I looked that game up after reading a few Buck posts here and realized its not the same Buck. Not even remotely. And yes, Im aware that ISO is short.In post 1277, mastin2 wrote:Bluntly, I also find it incredibly scummy-as-hell for you to have townread my slot so easily.
My slot did nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
The entire game.
This really could be cheeky scum. This sudden reversal off Pasch reads off. You've been calling for his death all game and mastin replaces in and you decide to initiate a counterwagon as mastin spams the thread about how both Pasch and I are scum anyhow?In post 1279, Majiffy wrote:
... Duh?In post 1273, flying beauties wrote:I think my vote is already on ap
And you not having EtL as town is terrible. I'll give you that Splintered was a lurkaderp, but her presence in this game reads extremely genuine today.In post 1288, mastin2 wrote:Varsoon has been obvtown the entire game. Not so much of a lick of scumposting from him, and entirely within what I know to be his town-play.
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They also suspected Lying Cat who you expressed interest in and then swept under the rug.In post 1346, mastin2 wrote:They may have suspected a large part of the playerlist throughout the game, but they were quite consistent with who they overall were suspicious of the most. Yeah, there's small bits on Varsoon and MafiaSSK, but mostly? It's Pasch, ETL's slot, and you.
That makes like 6 people? Gratz, you probably found a scum and a half in there!
Ha. Mastin, one person out of 21 is not worth changing a playstyle over. You were townreading Cyan way before I wsa bussing him. And fool you only ever called null. None of my buddies were in danger. I was doing it because I knew I could and to troll you and to mess with people's opinion on the game state. Whe nelse have you seen me as scum? Oh right, in PyP where I ended up turbobussing FuDuzn because why the hell not. Where are you getting this opinion from that I am HARD BUDDYING my scumteam and encouraging them to as well? You even speculated there is daychat for no reason whatsoever except either confirmation bias about me being scum or you are just scum.In post 1346, mastin2 wrote:In (1) a large game* (2) that was fast-paced (3) that had a lot of people not familiar with your play and (THE BIGGIE, 4) were basically forced to. YOU ADMITTED IT YOURSELF. That you wereforced into powerbussing SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I was scumreading you and knew your tendencies not to bus.
What reason is there for that?In post 1346, mastin2 wrote:Nope, not even remotely. It's scummy of you to suggest Majiffy being scummy for having done so.
Correct, hich makes his initiative flop very odd. His read on me was TOWN -> mehtown -> omg lets lynch AP. After you come in and agree that PASCH (scum scum scum) is also a good vote. Also I'm town in this game and your other crapread (EtL) is as well.In post 1346, mastin2 wrote:Except Majiffy still has Pasch as scum.-
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Gun to my head, EtL is not mafia. I have better PoE than you do right now : )In post 1346, mastin2 wrote:Except she's been pushing scummy-as-hell wagons, her interactions are godawful, her posts read as scum flailing, and to top it all off, we've got POE.-
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Point taken.In post 1138, Thor665 wrote:A little bit later you will ask Pasch about some of his expressed reads, indeed duplicating questions I asked.
You will fail to get the sadness of the situation.
I was calling you anti-town, not scummy.In post 1138, Thor665 wrote:You are making accusations based on nonsense. Stop it.
And you don't see a problem with putting an L1 vote on him and then requesting time for you before a hammer?In post 1138, Thor665 wrote:I'm not sure if Pasch is scum, but I'm not scared to have this wagon and see what happens because he certainly doesn't look town to me.
If that is trolling then I'm trolling.
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This doesn't feel like Town Thor at all.In post 1139, Thor665 wrote:
YO, DARTHE, COMMENT ON THE PASCH WAGON LIKE I ASKED YOU TO PAGES AGO.In post 1136, Darthe wrote:Oh look. Now if DGB shows up we can all enjoy being in the popular crowd for a bit.
OR REPLACE OUT.
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Good then help me lynch him. He is antitown at best right now and one of him/Majiffy is probably scum so lets find it.In post 1362, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:UNVOTE:
I don't think he's scum. I just think he's stupid and obviously cannot read me.-
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Nope. No hedging EtL scumreads for you. EtL can rage all she wants as long as she just sheeps me.In post 1365, The Grim Reaper wrote:EtL, you've had a lot of time complaining about mastin despite you busy schedule. Why don't you use that time to actually do what you promised to do and make a catch-up post on everyone, like you did for Varsoon?
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Right and Thor was sitelurking but opted not to post here. I'm out. I'll be back later to figure out which scumfuck I want to lynch today. Actually thinking Grim is the most probable one. His posts about "hey lets wagon Pasch first, I have good reasons for it!!" were like actually bizarre, esp considering he just dropped it and cw'd Pasch anyways.-
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You are such a scumbutt in this game. Claiming parts of my meta that are convenient and forgetting others. Fuck, dunno where half your crap about me hard defending my scumteam and encouraging them to reciprocate it in Day chat came from but you deserve to die for it.In post 1346, mastin2 wrote:[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p5410530]LET'S DO IT.
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Right the underlined are the same thing. I did adjust my playstyle because of your scumread on me...to troll you for my amusement in part.In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:
Aaaaaand, AP's confscum, because he's lying. HE FLAT-OUT EXPLICITLY SAID POST-GAME THAT HE WASIn post 1350, AngryPidgeon wrote:Ha. Mastin, one person out of 21 is not worth changing a playstyle over. You were townreading Cyan way before I was bussing him. And fool you only ever called null. None of my buddies were in danger.I was doing it because I knew I could and to troll youand to mess with people's opinion on the game state.FORCEDTO CHANGE HIS STYLE AND POWERBUS BECAUSE OF MY SCUMREAD ON HIM.I was actuallyCRACKING UPbecause you were ajusting your play based on me being scum and I was taking advantage of it. I was half bussing Fool/Cyanjust to watch you townread them harder.
I bolded "forced" because that is the lie from you. I never said I was forced to do it. I said I did it to troll you and (implied) because it was making me crack up.
This such a bullshit case I can't believe you can even convince yourself to post this.
And the game where I was bussing buddies on a WHIM (and you are lying to even remotely suggested I needed to bus them) has no relevance to your meta analysis of me?In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:Oh, you know, games like that one where you explicitly used "What Would Mastin Do?", came to the correct conclusion of 'not bus', and won the game perfectly? The one with the challenges and all that.
The more recent game? And the PyP game where I bussed hard?
Legends of the hidden temple I buddies my buddies when I could because it was NIGHTLESS. It was suicide to risk a buddy knowing that NS was getting lurker PLd and each scum lynch bought town more time.
You admit yourself that my scumplay is dangerous - in part because it is fluid. Yet you try to reverse engineer a scumteam from a FnL kill, my reads list (do you recallevery single oneof my ~10 townreads actually being town in that 2p2 game?). You know damn well that is some crap from you and town you -does- respect my townplay enough to give me the ebenfit of the doubt, ESPECIALLY when all you are shoving is a trifecta connection case in which me and pasch and EtL are all scum and buddying the crap out of each other. (Oh and we have daychat).
Trying to force a claim instead of take a hint? You were with me in GoW so I figured we'd understand each other. Your scumlist is bad. Paschendale might be scum and if you had any semblance of playing to a town agenda you'd leave me alone to confirm your shitty connection case even has validity.In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:Like hell I do. You're claiming today. If you have a feasibly-plausible claim, I'll let it slide and reevaluate on another day. But right now? You're scum to me.
This is not how you treat me when you are town, even when you suspect me. Your assertion that I was _forced_ to bus my buddies (who were in no real danger) D1 of a large game just to accuse me of lying when I did not is shameful and scummy.In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:And you should know mine. So again, why am I a scumread of yours?
Prove it? Burden of proof now mastin? This is why you are scum. Not even the faintest paranoia. Not even concerned that my interations with possible buddies would be influenced by how aware I am of my own scum meta? Absolute certainty? That is not how you play as town at all. This is pretty much your scumplay like from Mind Reader. Buddy some townies, steer mislynches, and make spammy posts with outrageous and extremely "concrete" cases (like me having lied about this when I did not)In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:Because to me? This reeks of a repeat. You townread me, until I come in with a scumread on you. You flip it around to a scumread on me, and then when that doesn't work, roleclaim to save your ass. Am I wrong? Well, if so...prove it.
....?In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:Then throw me a bone.
In what way? You got yourself mislynched by waffling like a madman (quite the opposite here) and I took a scumread stance on you because I knew defending you was suicide.In post 1460, mastin2 wrote:Calling me scum saved you in 2p2. It's not going to work here.
Proof:
It didn't 'save' me. It was a matter of you getting mislynched aggressively and me needing to call you scummy so people didn't see me as WKing or waffling. Convenient of you to leave that quote out since you obnthered to fish up the first one and misconstrue it.This game was a little stressful for me but I was still determined to put on a good showing for when it counted. I'd like to apologize to mastin in particular. I felt really ****ty about calling your posts scumclaims at that one point but I KNEW that defending you would be suicide and that I had to take a hard stand.
I take pride in all my games; I play to win. Which involves not getting lynched (unless I rolled jester I guess). I take more pride in scumwins because you aqre worth a smore significant portion of your team's overall skilllevel.In post 1461, mastin2 wrote:Too lazy to quote LC's posts, but...it's been too long since I've actually seen AP's towngame to tell if he takes pride in it; I think he takes more pride in his scumgame. (He might not LIKE being scum, but he's damn-good at BEING scum.) He devotes more effort to his games than is healthy, obsessed with winning them.
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You have EtL and me as scum and that is absolutely terrible. Her recent string of posts reads as though shes totally lost in this game and frustrated at being focused on for other people's actions. That. is. town. Also I'm town and the fact that you are hedging an ENTIRE scumteam read on it (when you know you have failed in the past miserably) and expressing absolute certainty in a mostly NK + connection case to Pasch and deciding to wagon me anyways is so so bad. I guess this could come from town-you, but I am really not seeing it. Your recent responses feel like you are walling me for the sake of it and not actually interested in working with or understanding what I am trying to convey.
I think Thor is the scum defending me since one of the people doing it almost certainly is. Mollie and majiffy are town I think simply based on their attitude this game. Mollie's posts don't feel like mollie from legends. Majiffy, meanwhile, is at least attempting to be protown. Actually now that I realize you are just following Majiffy onto me after he made the exec decision to start a AP wagon, I'm more confident in it. Test the waters for it, wait for a townie to get it rolling. Mastin from 1415, tada.
If you aren't scum then probably Grim. His hesitation to move off of Pasch (at least vocal hesitation) is awkward as hell and quite likely scum trying to get asked on to a ML wagon to avoid responsibility down the line. So Im thinking Thor + you + I'm thinking Darthe. Really not liking his recent waffles on me.
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Welp Im the Tenth Doctor, town 2-shot Gunsmith.
I investigated EtL on night 1 because the splintered slot's push on me felt off in hindsight as I was rereading things.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5410581
Thor, whoever, definitely has a gun. Lynch him first and you will see that I am being truthful.
I kinda lurked through the last part of the day yesterday because it was most of my effort to not just claim outright when trying to defend myself from mastin.
VOTE: Thor-
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Antihero refused to clarify what would generate a positive for my role, but did offhandedly refer to the wiki page for it. So unless Thor is a cop (no vig in the game it would seem) then he has to be mafia.
And given the mason flip and my already having a 2 hot investigative, I strongly doubt Thor is that so - vote away, hes scum.-
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Still very confident that this is scum.In post 1604, The Grim Reaper wrote:Pasch is L-1.
There are 5 votes on him and its 6 to lynch.
AP can go tomorrow... we are pretty confident pasch will flip scum
Majiffy is a mason and mollie is probable town still. At least if she is scum we are going to lose and I will nom her for a scummy.
Town: Majiffy, EtL, Mollie, Me
Scum: Thor
The Rest: Beli, Cat, Darthe, Grim.
Of those Im inclined to think Darthe/Grim are the best bets.-
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This is probably scum. Why is Darthe so sure of the Pasch lynch? He basically ignored everything to do with me (until today, lol).In post 1598, Darthe wrote:Why are we stalling?
This post feels scummy. Trying to act blazé about being pressured and offering up a very weak promise for activity and subtly implying that his lack of activity is the reason he is scummy.In post 1158, Darthe wrote:Cool. Let's do this then. You would save me tons of effort.
But really though. You wanna lynch someone for not playing when they say they finally have time to play.. Go for it.
It is classically a scummy thing to be upset about being lynched for the wrong reasons.
"good as I am at playing". Darthe I think we played one game together in which I faked a guilty on town as town and roid raged on every day past D1 until I finally managed to catch Rev. You have no reason to be buddying up to me like this re underlined. And explanation above.In post 1162, Darthe wrote:
*How* does it ping? And Molly said she was up for lynching me. My post on you is incomplete. Do you need a satisfying conclusion or definity?In post 1159, AngryPidgeon wrote:
This pings very wrong.In post 1158, Darthe wrote:Cool. Let's do this then. You would save me tons of effort.
But really though. You wanna lynch someone for not playing when they say they finally have time to play.. Go for it.
Mollie never said why she was lynching you and you just posted a pretty big waffle on me with no satisfying conclusion.
Your content looks busy and your reaction to pressure is to assign a weak reason for it existing and AtE about it.Better question, would you expect it with someone as good as you are at playing?
My content is definitely busy, my reaction to pressure is bring it on. None of it's a bluff, if I die I can't be helping town less than I was until this point. It'll be a bummer to have not represented myself well with such a lauded group but that's part of the game.
Great so you knew what was going to happen before it did. Yet you spend all of yesterday voteparking Paschendale and calling him scummy without really explaining why or doing anything about it as everyone else actually DOES make cases and add to the lynch discussion.In post 1475, Darthe wrote:In post 1457, Thor665 wrote:Let's lynch Pasch not AP.In post 1469, mastin2 wrote:Yeah, AP's scum.
There's an element missing from his townplay, here, present in his scumplay.
Yeah, already called both of these.. Catch up.
Acknowledging the ongoing debate but not taking any stances on people - trying to blend in.In post 1598, Darthe wrote:Why are we stalling?
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Hey Mollie, your reads have been incredibly bad all game. That isn't anything to do with your alignment is it? Cause I gotta say I worry sometimes.In post 1626, pirate mollie wrote:oh thor is confscum.
that is what I find so funny is them bussing you
so that you could come up with this bogus claim? lol-
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Grim I can't even really put my finger on why I dislike them. Their waffling about yesterday's lynch was eyebrow raising to say the least
In post 1095, The Grim Reaper wrote:AP, why did you move your vote to Thor if you're so convinced we are bussing Paschendale? Logic demands you'd vote either Paschendale or us then.In post 1100, The Grim Reaper wrote:But seriously Pasch needs rope now and AP needs rope tomorrow.In post 1111, The Grim Reaper wrote:Actually, I want to keep you around for another day AP. I'm having way too much fun with youIn post 1121, The Grim Reaper wrote:You are scum regardless of Paschendale's flip. The arguments we've had have revolved around much more than just Paschendale.
I have considered Paschendale possibly being town, yes. I think it was somewhere during RVS. I was still a kid. Grandpa used to bring me candy. And somehow the flowers had a sweeter smell to them.In post 1234, The Grim Reaper wrote:I don't think it matters that much, but I see two arguments pointing to it being better to lynch Paschendale first:
1. Practically, it's easier. He's already at L-1.
2. Angry Pidgeon really isn't playing very well. I've seen him play much better, and when looking at mastin calling Angry Pidgeon the most dangerous scumplayer, tt seems he WANTS to get lynched over Paschendale.
This is fake. First off, EtL and Pasch are both town. Grim _could_ be suffering from extreme conirmation bias here, but this sort of hard slip case is way more likely to come from scum. Scum like to link people together. Scum like to sell cases as infallible when they are not. Grim in Hidden Legends was confident, but he never aggressively linked people like this or shoved such a terrible case. Its leaving 3 townie lynches open yesterday (me, etl, Pasch) and the way they waffled about where to put there vote throughout the game shows a distinct concern over how they are perceived. Seriously, read back at who they want to lynch - they are being followers and following the town leaders (majiffy + mastin) and doing a really good job of blending into the crap, but they aren't doing anything. They are shoving crappy connection and slip cases and waffling back and forth forever about where to vote.In post 1384, The Grim Reaper wrote:The slip is in 845, and shows PAschendale and EtL are in a scumteam together.
GGIn post 1604, The Grim Reaper wrote:AP can go tomorrow... we are pretty confident pasch will flip scum
P-edit: I have a GUILTY on Thor, not a read anymore. you thought both masons (buck and majiffy were obvtown D1) were scum. You still think I am scum. Thor is scum sure, you finally got one right!-
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This is a 1v1, we are lynching me or Thor only today. If Thor flips town, you lynch me tomorrow no questions asked.In post 1636, pirate mollie wrote:etl you were leaning thorella as town if I recall.
hedging typically means "hedging your bets" but I like the analogy of having a bunch overgrown shrubbery to mask what you are doing.
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This is not a town reaction to having a guilty reported on you. He clearly doesn't know what to do.
Thor, you should have mislynched me yesterday - would have probably won your team the game.
Mollie, please for the love of god lynch Thor today. He is confirmed guilty. Im not going to ever let you live this down if you lynch me today. Read my ISO. Everything I've done makes sense here from a town perspective.