Shadowrun Mafia - Aztechnology Headquarters (Scum PT)

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Holy shit we might not be that far off with that gun.

Mod If a runner dies or is imprisoned during a run then is the thread instantly notified or the end of the night?

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Should I claim getting a gun?

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Lol the bounty was Karnos XD Bounty hunter

Yeah will do it when I get home post something to say need time to think of mission and such work now sorry RL first

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Have fun!

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Mod can you please list all run types available please?

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DO NOT ANNOUNCE THE SCUM FUCKERY UNTIL L-1 PLEASE

Up until that time I want to be able to change the missions etc if I need to.

Watchful Eyes - The adventure takes place at a gala. Public displays of violence and weaponry have a 75% chance of throwing a player in prison if they fail a stealth check. Town will just be told that acts of violence may result in severe consequences. (day)

Dumb noisy patrol -- The extra guard on the watchful eyes mission too

Dice hit the floor -- ONLY USE IF THIS TRIGGER HAPPENS

A loaded dice condition that if one of InspectorScout, Vedith, Worldzmine, or Peregrine V succeed their individual check on a stealth check that could get them imprisoned, reroll that stealth check. Similarly if they have already failed their stealth check and are in their 75% chance point and pass their imprisonment check, have them reroll it.[/b]

Note: I AM INTENTIONALLY INCLUDING THE SCOUT SLOT. THAT WAY THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FACE PRESSURE FOR THIS SHITTY LIST AND HAVE TIME TO EXPLAIN IT. IMPRISONMENT WOULD BE BETTER as it delays the fact that there is only one scum me, not in prison.

Trigger this please:


The party leader will be InspectorScout
The party will be Peregrine V & Vedith & Worldzmine
The mission will be murder


The alternate mission will be KlingonCelt as the Lieutenant
The party will be ABR, Myself, and D&D
The mission will be demolitions
No fuckery planned for that one

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Change primary mission to be Arson

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DO NOT ANNOUNCE THE SCUM FUCKERY UNTIL L-1 PLEASE

Up until that time I want to be able to change the missions etc if I need to.

Watchful Eyes - The adventure takes place at a gala. Public displays of violence and weaponry have a 75% chance of throwing a player in prison if they fail a stealth check. Town will just be told that acts of violence may result in severe consequences. (day)

Dumb noisy patrol -- The extra guard on the watchful eyes mission too

Dice hit the floor -- ONLY USE IF THIS TRIGGER HAPPENS

A loaded dice condition that if one of InspectorScout, Vedith, Worldzmine, or Peregrine V succeed their individual check on a stealth check that could get them imprisoned, reroll that stealth check. Similarly if they have already failed their stealth check and are in their 75% chance point and pass their imprisonment check, have them reroll it.

Note: I AM INTENTIONALLY INCLUDING THE SCOUT SLOT. THAT WAY THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FACE PRESSURE FOR THIS SHITTY LIST AND HAVE TIME TO EXPLAIN IT. IMPRISONMENT WOULD BE BETTER as it delays the fact that there is only one scum me, not in prison.

Trigger this please:


The party leader will be InspectorScout
The party will be Peregrine V & Vedith & Worldzmine
The mission will be ARSON


The alternate mission will be KlingonCelt as the Lieutenant
The party will be ABR, Myself, and D&D
The mission will be demolitions
No fuckery planned for that one

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To the hydra -- I am afk a lot of Saturday but will do my best to post.

The great and powerful trixie is a post restriction I'm usually more clear in posts but it is so damn hard not to use first person pronouns LOL

Looking forward to meet you but pretty much here's the idea

You are going to claim you picked the ideal mission for Arson as Peregrine V is an elementalist and Vedith is a ganger and they sometimes use fire weapons. Worldzmine is to be a shaman over fire magic. You need to claim you didn't see the fuckery.

Then let town decide everything. Try to be as "helpful" as possible. They are loaded with combat stats and not much else.
Remember we want to back town into a corner where combat is required.

An adventure will come with different prompts:
like
<flavor >
<choice A or choice B>
Most are kinda clear which stat they point to. Hopefully combat will be much easier on that mission or a general display of violence to get someone townie imprisoned but if you get offered the chance take it to avoid scrutiny. You'll look town and then maybe we can break you out and it saves a lynch.

If you pass the mission let me know because either I kill you or someone else depending upon how bad you are scumread.

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EVEN BETTER Yay

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But home I go and I look forward to meeting you hydra friend of scout.

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Make me lieutenant
Make KlingonCelt regular party member

Remove trigger from scumbuddy

Thought about it on the drive home and this is better we have to force town to waste a lynch.

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Yes I know Karnos I thought Drixx was the traitor *sigh*

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Yes Karnos the game is going to hell I am aware of this.

However I do not scum claim to save confirmed scum. I will let JaeReed do it.

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Omg Karnos take your lynch like a man! Seriously. The last thing we need is a fucking traitor flip! That will reveal single ball and the fact scum may not have known. *sigh*

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*sigh* The Great and Powerful Trixie's telepathic vibes probably will never kick in.

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I fucking hate being scum posting on a restriction right now. Need this day to fucking end so the missions can start. Thank God I have RL soon.

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Maybe I can get lucky and convince people to bring Space Cowboy out and leave McMenno and think Vedith is scum.

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The bad news is because I know ABR can make my initiative first I have to shoot Karnos with the fucking gun tonight.
And to keep cover with JaeReed I have to Jailkeep SpaceCowboy if they get broken out and let him instantly confirm Space Cowboy as town. Then kill JaeReed to make it look like going after townfirms.

This might be salvageable if I can break JaeReed out.

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Space Cowboy*

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Fruit I am running out the door but DO NOT HAMMER Karnos!!

Try to start discussion. Be townie. Talk about this mission stuff. Look like you are confused.

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But Karnos has to be hammered by EoD today.

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Fuck I have to shoot space cowboy and my partner isn't talking and I am trying to do a post restriction while inebriated.

Trying to get people stealth killed is going to out scout which means I must play this game alone ...With likely 10+ town still alive.

If Karnos is bulletproof we are fucked. Going to try to send a message to him tonight with my kill.

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But we should Lynch conf scum.

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Yeah I did what I could but we have a hug situation here. Eventually Karnos needs to be voted but don't instantly hammer.

I want to try to have you lynched the following day if possible. I guess instantly hammering works too but would love to give you a chance to fight for your townieness.

Vedith has to go be imprisoned during the mission I hope but anyone is good.

Talk with ABR about why he wishes to go on a mission with JaeReed.

The fact Karnos did not play dead is going to fuck with us. I will try to summon him to the team but ugh.....

Which also means I can't Jailkeep either in case tracker damn it.

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Because Koggz suspects me and I am actively trying to create dialogue.

If I hammer all the town cred I have been building goes to shit.
You are in essence scum claiming.

We literally would have all scum naked at that point.

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With the missions that is your scum claim remember?

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Ah. Got it.

Can you like townread me or something so you have a reason to send the missions I posted before?

Gonna be really weird if you don't send ABR and JaeReed together and don't comment.

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And that I am Lieutenant.

I am guessing demolitions might blow a whole in the prison wall if we pass and let Space Cowboy out if we get lucky.

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Alrighty sounds good. I just thought day was going to end so I scrambled and did something. :/

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The stealth mission is actually REALLY hard to imprison people. I did the fucking math

Like these missions are so slanted towards town it isn't even funny. Like we need to be a lieutenant and Party Leader as much as possible to minimize damage.

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Unsubmit all prior requests for missions

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Buddy Koggz. They think I am scum.

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odds of imprisonment are low unless you have the trigger I made. Only like thirty percent.

Need all low combat scores for combat. Otherwise likely fail.

Will give you percentages

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Likely pass*

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Spoiler: Big ass table of probabilities

Num of dice	Odds of at least one success	Odds of at least two successes	Odds of at least three successes	Odds of at least four successes	Odds of at least 5 successes	Odds of at least 6 successes
1	0.333333333333333	0	0	0	0	0
2	0.555555555555555	0.111111111111111	0	0	0	0
3	0.703703703703704	0.259259259259259	0.0370370370370369	0	0	0
4	0.802469135802469	0.407407407407407	0.111111111111111	0.0123456790123455	0	0
5	0.868312757201646	0.539094650205761	0.209876543209876	0.0452674897119338	0.00411522633744821	0
6	0.912208504801097	0.648834019204389	0.319615912208504	0.100137174211248	0.0178326474622768	0.00137174211248248
7	0.941472336534065	0.736625514403292	0.429355281207133	0.173296753543667	0.0452674897119338	0.00685871056241394
8	0.960981557689377	0.804907788446883	0.531778692272519	0.258649596098155	0.0879439109891781	0.0196616369455872
9	0.973987705126251	0.856932378194381	0.62282172433064	0.349692628156277	0.144845806025504	0.0424223949601173
10	0.982658470084167	0.895950820505004	0.700858608951887	0.440735660214398	0.213128080069095	0.0765635319819129
11	0.988438980056112	0.924853370364725	0.765889346136259	0.527443309793561	0.288997273450862	0.122085048010973
12	0.992292653370741	0.946048573595187	0.818877354212415	0.606925321907794	0.368479285565095	0.177722456490936
13	0.994861768913827	0.961463266853705	0.861267760673339	0.677575999342667	0.447961297679328	0.241308066182323
14	0.996574512609218	0.972596100873746	0.894666262733461	0.738806586452891	0.524499531567108	0.310192476681324
15	0.997716341739479	0.98058890478557	0.920642875446889	0.790759811879748	0.595935216529035	0.381628161643252
16	0.998477561159653	0.986298050436873	0.94062488522645	0.834054166402128	0.660876748312606	0.45306384660518
17	0.998985040773102	0.990357887344466	0.955849273629924	0.869577739343569	0.718602554342447	0.522334813840989
18	0.999323360515401	0.993233605154011	0.967352144868105	0.89833491743902	0.768927616009488	0.587757394008141
19	0.999548907010267	0.995263523607808	0.97597929829674	0.921340659915382	0.812063383152665	0.64814746800859
20	0.999699271340178	0.996691984741961	0.982407373400429	0.939553539375835	0.848489142073571	0.702786106389948
21	0.999799514226785	0.997694413608033	0.987168910514273	0.953838150717366	0.878843941174325	0.751353784951156
22	0.999866342817857	0.998396113814284	0.990677411545527	0.964948403983002	0.903842011022006	0.793850503692212
23	0.999910895211905	0.998886190148808	0.993250312301779	0.973524739837177	0.924210808675671	0.83051433946881
24	0.999940596807936	0.999227758503174	0.995128938250789	0.980099930658711	0.940648785729506	0.861746495871097
25	0.999960397871958	0.999465371271428	0.996495211668251	0.98510959985607	0.953799167372575	0.888047259157233
26	0.999973598581305	0.999630380138271	0.99748526486931	0.988904803793464	0.964235978200407	0.909964561895681
27	0.999982399054203	0.999744786285949	0.998200303292297	0.991764957485412	0.972458920064759	0.928055033997256
28	0.999988266036136	0.999823990542034	0.998715130956848	0.993910072754374	0.978894265871643	0.94285632935309
29	0.999992177357424	0.999878749040068	0.999084750818576	0.995511758821865	0.983899534832554	0.954868974859275
30	0.999994784904949	0.999916558479186	0.999349416892407	0.996702756154102	0.987770276162324	0.964545828183701

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Nope would still pass :/ Unfortunately Even if we could combine gala and guard they STILL could easily avoid imprisonment with all 2s. Tis sad really.

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So you'd have to target someone to be imprisoned to have any realistic shot.

Have to have LESS people on the mission. Not more. It's sad really in Shadowrun more runners fuck things up. In this case they dramatically help :/

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Hopefully these probabilities will help. I put that on there with the idea that the probabilities would likely cause them to fail if the mission went the way it should have but apparently the stats checked don't match the mission name except maybe once so it's really hard to determine what to fail.

Odds of failing individual stealth check with two dice is 45% Then require 75% imprisonment check this is a 33-34% chance of imprisoning someone with a two. With a trigger it increases to 50 :/

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Those are wrong
Every player needs 1 pass
So if there are 4 runners 4 successes have to be achieved, with 8 dices
The odds of passing are 33%, the odds of glitching are around 17%
These are estimated

Not likely to me. I think the summand up option is occurring.
Else we would have glitched or had some nefarious thing when we tried to cast a spell.

Dice are probably added together which is shitty.

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It can't require every player to pass a task or the task pass otherwise no task would ever be passed.

I really think this RNG is going to fuck us honestly.

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I have to go just go ahead and do what you like but honestly I think the missions will always pass.

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Karnos is trying to townfirm me...Okay that might work. Maybe...*sigh*

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No.

A die has 1/2/3/4/5/6 There are two passes and 4 fails (the 5 and 6)
This is the same thing as a die three and requiring a three. (I am simplifying so I don't have to spend forever typing this shit out.)

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Each die has a 33 percent pass rate. This does not mean 2 dice have a 33% pass rate or 28 dice have a 33% pass rate.

So with two dice there are nine options
1,1 1,2, 1,3 2,1 2,2 2,3 3,1 3,2 3,3

The rolls that give success are 1,3 2,3 3,1 3,2 3,3
That is 5/9 or 55% as above.

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It explodes the more dice you have but the general idea is

1 - [(The odds of having exactly Zero Successes) - (The odds of having one success) ] = The odds of having at least two successes

1 - (Odds Zero) - (Odds One) - (Odds Two) = Odds of having at least three successes

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The odds of a glitch on two dice is 55% but a crit clitch is 1,1 1,2 2,1 (Requiring a 1 and no 3's) is 33%. For each die added the odds dramatically decrease. So pretty much unless Town are absolute idiots and don't put five people on the mission it will almost always pass.

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Hell making a stealth check with 10 dice (all five 2s) is whopping 44% success rate. And no town composed team would ever make that choice willingly unless forced.

Sorry man. I'm just pissed (but not at you or anyone else just the situation). I spent two and a half hours last night trying to figure out the best mission and we're pretty much literally fucked.

I think we have to give it a shot and try to imprison someone Vedith is a good bet.

What do you mean by let Karnos go?

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Friday night*

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Will post tonight.

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There committed to vig. Should be lynching JaeReed in a sec.

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He is doing what I taught him in 1800. Just doing a successful bus. He probably thinks I crumbed it when I FoS'd him when looking for traitors. He said I could be town so I thought he wasn't and poked RR.

He is doing what he thinks I told him to probably.

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I taught him that if you are caught scum then start screaming the truth. People won't believe you as it fucks with site meta. So the more he screams one of us is scum and I vig kill him at night people won't believe I am scum. As long as people don't go read 1800 scum chat we should be okay.

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It actually got Karnos out of a d1 lynch

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Questions
1) No. Rolecopped JaeReed via Jailkeep. Claimed PR before I did it. He was sketchy about me and I know him a bit so it was safe to claim PR as role madness. Thought he was Masons with Grovyle at first. That was proven wrong.

2)Yes he is confirmed scum by the moderator. If I don't vig him tonight I am outed scum as ABR will push me to the top of the initiative order.

3) I think Vedith is a confirmed PR who can bodyguard a bad Lynch but that is a hunch could be trolling. Hope they end up in prison with mission structure set up.

The most important thing to post is why those missions and sound authentic.

Don't scumread ABR he will tunnel you. Pick someone low posting or a quiet personality

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Day one was a lot of McMenno theories.

The more opinions you give the better you will look just be consistent and don't lie. Say something is scummy and vote them. Don't call them scum or if you do say "I think" it comes off more authentic. Then after they "fuck up" then call them scum.

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Oh and thanks for reading!

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Lol I am the rolecop XD

Death has a flip and prison doesn't til much later. Town wants to see what he will flip now and get more information.

The game does end if we are all in prison but that is highly unlikely. It will probably bust first.

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Rolecop is a part of my PM.

The only reward from a mission was the day cop. Someone gave me a gun overnight.

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Quote from the main thread in here yes but easier if you copy a link TBH. Then no risk of accidentally putting a scum post in a game.

Jae's role is in here he is pretty much VT now.

I think ABR wants an all town mission.

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From a mission we went on. The other got a don't run this mission prize.

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Yeah if we want to imprison anyone it has to be a shitty mission.

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Sure you can't convince people to like it?

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And where's the list of missions?

List of missions is just a list of words with headers. We guess what will happen.

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....Niiiiiiiice Will post after I get to work but JaeReed just gave us a free mislynch.

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Shit town me would say it is stupid because JaeReed would never get the PT. *sigh*

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Wait a minute town me claimed jailkeeper not alien town me is fine

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Lmao froot got to work later than what I wanted. Sorry won't post til super late tonight

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It is up to you if you want to since you are here. Just have 3 people on it and I am lieutenant and with them low stealth scores just gotta be able to justify to the thread why.

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And we need to have a complicated trigger for the gala so I don't go to jail XD and someone else does.

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And we kill ABR tonight That can settle any doubt in your mind.

I vig Karnos
Scout kills ABR

Sounds good.

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Although I highly doubt ABR is that cop because we know he can bump someone on initiative order

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Need to hang out with my boo so will be on later tonight I hope

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Nice posts

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Just realized if ABR has a guilty on me or JaeReed and goes on the mission and tells JaeReed then we be fucked. Those two should not go together.

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No what I am saying is:

If ABR knows there was one scum on the mission.
ABR tells JaeReed this.
JaeReed treats it as a guilty on me.

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I dunno. The fact I had a gun is strange. Will think about it more but guns kill people.

I suspect the gun will flip someone.

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Like I can't even :/ Karnos is doing an excellent job of pissing off JaeReed so he doesn't think correctly but wow. Taking a nap will see if anything constructive happens. If not I will scold JaeReed for yelling at confirmed scum.

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Nope. I just got given a gun. Look at mod feedback in thread. So we have two kills tonight.

I think Worldzmine is a cop actually want him lynched today if we can. Not Karnos. Would rather lynch WM vig Karnos. JaeReed is eating out of my pocket. But letting JaeReed decide is infinitely more powerful because then I am not "manipulating" it.

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Jae if he gets stuck in prison has a 50% chance of leaving on a normal day.

This means on a given day there would likely be a prison break. And this would be where he could die.

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Well one of Koggz or Worldzmine is likely cop if anyone. ABR is just scary and loud.

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Go for it. What is more important is that you have fun A win or not is irrelevant. Just let me know what you are doing so I can adjust.

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Guess who karnos placed a bounty on?
Guess what scum would never do to their scumbuds and therefore does?

If i can push through that they are scum together who did a big gambit to make karnos nearly conftown
But failed cuz of the cop, and now worldzmine has nearly given up?

Go for it. I can build off that if it picks up steam.

And rock on

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U drunk m8?

Or just happy that stuff finally goes right again?

No. Just making lemons out of lemonade. If I allow myself a set amount of time to vent then have to be positive from that time forward it makes things better.

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Lol it is 11pm and I have work tomorrow. I better not be drunk.

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If we use that we can't get me out of stealth if things go sideways.

We will have to use it to remove ABR. That would be scummy as fuck.

Then we make it a likely mission yours and Jae's stats suck for.

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That is why I did it yo.

For the sigs!!

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Lol I love you scout <3

Gahhh JaeReed is back to being smart

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Unlikely. You can hypothesize that if you want though. Others have. Just waiting on Jae to make up his mind.

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I wish Karnos hadn't said that

Lol I know now. Going to bed.

Sweet dreams people. Be awesome do whatever please submit the 3x3s by tonight so we have a mission in case quick hammers.

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And I have time to make a complicated trigger for dice reroll if needed.

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Fuck I think Karnos is going to seppuku us but since Cowboy is in prison can't hide the flip fuck

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ABR is ABR nothing I say will confirm or deny it. At work til late. Will see if it picks up steam but more than likely ABR will. Will calmly explain or let JaeReed just explain how I am town.

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This is why I said not to call ABR scum as soon as anyone suspects him or even posts the least little bit suspicious about him he tunnels. It is his deal regardless of alignment.

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Means we can't kill ABR tonight. Need to figure out how to make ABR look scummy. Maybe remove JaeReed from the mission not ABR.

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Don't know who is on which mission can you bold it?

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Yes quite often. Let's wait and see how others respond. I am at work and your slot is normally offline at this time.

We can adjust if we have to. I think JaeReed may end up defending me along with D&D. Not rushing out a post while at work. Shitty ass day at work. Won't be on til late.

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Do whatever you like. If you would townread now do so.

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Shit you may have to bus me this is bad that no one is providing arguments.

You can either bus me or townfirm me but I hate the Math is scum no argument. I crumble under that.

I have a super long night at work which is sketchy as fuck.

I gotta go. Will look at triggers if I can later.

If not my earlier one will have to do.

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Looks like I got out of it semi earlier going to find something to distract myself from my shitty day.

Will try an epic Math rant later I guess. Not quite sure why everyone just randomly started voting me as I have 0 votes :/

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Posts*

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Well I gotta post so I am going for it.

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Turned out way less epic than I thought but still authentic. Just had a shit week so hooray. Blah.

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Love it

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Me too

I am just so tired ATM it is super hard. 1800 I faked anger three straight days nonstop.

Thank you

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Anyone with stealth 2

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Sorry need to sneak in a quick post.

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Okay this might die down. I am thinking we run a gambit here to convince ABR to shut up. I Jailkeep him and kill Karnos and you shoot him.

That will try to make it look like a frame but probably too risky.

Trigger is:

Success is defined as anything protown on the gala mission during a stealth check of an individual nature
-- If town passes an individual stealth check that could lead to imprisonment reroll it. If scum does not get the required number of hits on a stealth check reroll it. If neither of these conditions are met do not use it.

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This is not the imprisonment check this is the stealth check before that.

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Never mind about the block ABR plan forgot he has to boost me to top of initiative.

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Thank you

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Do the gala and yank JaeReed. Hopefully then we have two mission fails. It is risky as I may go to prison but probably the smarter play.

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Clarification

Yank JaeReed from mission start once it is going

Gala on mission where I am lieutenant

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I am VLA but will go my best to post. I trust you both.

Need to paint ABR as scummy as hell:

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Sorry this weekend super busy if I get a chance I will post. Thank you.

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I honestly haven't read I just pushed someone who I think could be lynched.

He is going to treat it like a cop.

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So we let him and I roleblock JaeReed again tonight.

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Meh not a slip. Been hypothesizing singleball.

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I do reads with associations as town. It is my schtick.

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If Karnos doesn't flip traitor we recruit ABR. :/

Suspecting one or the other is SK.

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FYI ABR is lying he sent a letter to Yume likely. Just not sure we can CC that safely. Interesting he is defending Yume.

Yume responded with the word "Mine" in their post after ABR's message.

Can't wait to see how ABR responds.

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Honestly I would hold off. Let ABR catch up after the holiday. Learned my mistake after posting while sick.

I am thinking that we make Yume party leader tomorrow. They are useless as fuck Then maybe I won't go on a mission because dear lord after the gala I will need a break and then I can be PL the next day.

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Explain how you read the first post yet are still hypothesizing I am the SK?

YOU ARE ALIGNED WITH THE TOWN FACTION (SHADOWRUNNERS) OR YOU ARE ALIGNED WITH AZTECHNOLOGY/LONESTAR (SCUM)

That is in the first post.
IMHO that is mod confirmation that there is no SK.

The fact you have read it and had multiple times to correct your bullshit theory makes me think that you are scum.

There is no way ABR is this dumb. He just scum slipped.

You like?

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Done

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Well already did. Not really seeing anything scummy you are doing and almost 1 am. Will see what I can do tomorrow.

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Honestly ATM I am going to sheep as best as I can what you say here.

I can't quickly switch off ABR but wordlzmkne push is set up

Sleepy good night.

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Did my best to unvote

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Me too but dem's the breaks :/ We may end up getting a no lynch due to town apathy

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Lol that is extremely dumb. I would have thought KC scum in a heartbeat. I think the only way KC could have done that is if they got Scout's feedback. Giving town the same oneshot as scum seems problematic

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Or she gets all messages of people who die.

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I think you use your power on KlingonCelt and we kill Yume as scum kill and I kill Vedith

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I mean Karnos* scum kill is Vedith God so sleepy sorry

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Okay so Karnos does have a kill and they are likely killing JaeReed so I need a new town beard *sigh*

I am killing Karnos since ABR can bump me to the top of the initiative. So glad we got all the messages sent that may just save us

You kill Yume or Vedith.

That makes 8 alive tomorrow.

ABR should then think I am town I hope because Karnos dies.

Namely you,me,random,Worldz,PV, Klingon,ABR, Yume, D&D minutes whoever is lynched.

Then we go back to one kill unless I am still trusted. Let's assume one kill for now.

2 v 6 next day. This would be LyLo.

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I am thinking we hit Random hard tomorrow and kill KlingonCelt or do a gambit which "townfirms" me to KlingonCelt with no death but risky. Probably better to kill my town beard . Blah this game is making it hard to breathe (not literally).

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So Karnos is likely killing D&D instead okay...

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He is saying in his theory who he's going to kill.

He's all scum will kill D&D so likely he will kill D&D

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Yes. Because ABR is going to put me at the top of initiative order from the messages received. If I don't shoot Karnos ABR power claims.

If we shoot ABR to silence him it is sketchy and results in my lynch.

The only thing we can do is shoot Karnos.

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Scum Feedback

Math Receives a Gun that works at night and kills people

Inspector Scout Finds that WorldzMine had a bounty placed on them.

Inspector Scout is the Party Leader.

Math gets a result

Spoiler: Math's Result

SMOOTH TALKER - YOU CAN ESCAPE FROM PRISON ONE TIME AS A FREE ACTION UNTIL A PRISON BREAK OCCURS. IF IN PRISON DURING A PRISON BREAK, YOU HAVE A 50% CHANCE OF DYING IMMEDIATELY. AFTER A PRISON BREAK, IF YOU ARE STILL IN PRISON, YOU MAY BREAK OUT IF YOU HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY.
DEVIL'S BARGAIN - YOU HAVE A RING THAT YOU MAY GIVE TO ANOTHER PLAYER. TO RECEIVE THE RING, THEY MUST AGREE TO WHATEVER CONDITIONS YOU SET. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PASS THE RING IN A SIMILAR MANNER ONCE THEIR CONDITION HAS BEEN MET. YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANY CONDITIONS THAT INCLUDE ALIGNMENT OR ROLECLAIMING. VOTING OR NOT VOTING IS AN ACCEPTABLE CONDITION, UNLESS LYLO. THE RING WILL THEN RETURN TO YOU WHERE IT WILL NEED TO BE RECHARGED BEFORE BEING USED AGAIN. IF A CONDITION EVER FAILS, IT PASSES ONTO THE NEXT DAY. IF A CONDITION PERMANENTLY FAILS, THE RING PASSES BACK TO YOU WITH ONE CHARGE ON IT. PERMANENT CONDITIONS ARE CONSIDERED FULFILLED AFTER 1 DAY/NIGHT CYCLE WHERE A PERSON COULD ACTUALLY TAKE THE ACTION.

NOTE: TO TRIGGER A DEVIL'S BARGAIN EXCHANGE, YOU WILL NEED TO POST THE FOLLOWING IN THREAD:

TRADE: DEVIL'S BARGAIN RING
TO: PLAYERNAME
CONDITIONS: ANY CONDITIONS BEFORE TRANSFER
NUMBER OF CHARGES LEFT AFTER PASSING: 0, 1, OR 2.

Inspector Scout Intercepts all messages

Spoiler: Message 1

Jaereed, I originally was going to message RR, but you know. Reasons have made me reconsider sending them that. I have a stronger townread on you, so this really should have went to you anyways I think. But I thought you might be a night kill target. Meh. I posted my original message that i intended for RR below. So same of most of that stuff applies to you. Kthx

Also how is life?

Hey Reasonably Rational, this is Firebringer.
Didn't talk this message over with hebichan, but I can neighborize players.
Limited shots, so I haven't done it, and I have other stuff to, but this one I wanted input on who I should neighborize. Now I don't have a strong read on you, but I know you are very active. So I want to neighborize you. If you are town or even I guess scum, I want you to tell me during the day through some sort of crumb perhaps "I need to focus on this person more tomorrow hopefully" or something like that.

~Fire

Ohhh also, I hope you are town. If that wasn't apparent.

Spoiler: Message 2

Tonight, I pushed your action to the top of the NAR order.

If this was useful to you, state the code word "Mine" tomorrow in your opening post.

If this was useless to you, state the word "Shadowfire" tomorrow in your opening post.

I am Albert B. Rampage. I will open with the word "Key" tomorrow to confirm you received this from me.

Message me tomorrow night if you trust me.

Spoiler: Message 3

I am a doctor. Sincerely, Shadowman.

I protected you, lel

Spoiler: Message 4

Math's message to JaeReed

This means I have to shoot Karnos.

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Don't you know? I am Yume, destroyer of worlds.

^^ This is from Yume's posting. Makes them likely vig, PGO, or vengeful.

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It is a reference to the Manhattan Project.

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VOTE: PeregrineV

I think VC is off for Worldzmine.

And I don't think that KlingonCelt is town. Even if we go with the idea she somehow intercepted the message. Karnos said that scum killed grovyle. What makes more sense is that Klingon and Karnos are scum together along with Random and Peregrine V is what follows:

1) Assume Karnos as scum lied about who he killed.
2) A team with KlingonCelt kills Drixx.
3) KlingonCelt (who is the sniper) watches over their target and gets their messages from the dead corpse.

The fact ABR didn't even consider this makes me wonder if ABR is truly even here. Random defending ABR's poor play is ridiculous. I have played with ABR enough to know that as either alignment this is exceptional play for him. Random saying it isn't yet not joining a wagon and not commenting on anything else is scummy as fuck.

The Yume vote is stupid. They crumbed <redacted>. Maybe that is why you are voting them KlingonCelt?

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Same or insane?

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Insane forgot second kill.

The only thing that isn't explained is the Grovyle kill. That I can't figure out for the life of me.

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Meh I hate all of that blah.

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Much better Yay typical choppiness.

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Meh I am just hoping I get the bounty on Worldz and someone points out the Peregrine V wagon has scum on it so I can bounty up. Forgot Worldz had a bounty a second

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God damn it the same thing happened in 1800. Get a no lynch through play and now this happens.

*sigh*

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Them's the breaks.

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Well we have to shoot Karnos anyway. I figure we make Klingon or ABR so I can get rid of this post restriction day three without having to go on a mission. ABR may have framed Karnos TBH. It makes me wonder why he says he liked me. But Karnos and the bus comment. Blah. ABR likely wouldn't put me on a mission. Good pick regardless.

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Nay because your action is due at hammer.

You need to say I am asking the mod is a conditional thing is possible publically in thread then submit it here.

If ABR is not together with JaeReed then don't yank JaeReed

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Smth =?

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But other than that looks dandy but I think would be better if you had reasons for PV town in the post. Otherwise he can accuse you of reads w/o reasons.

Running out the door.

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Feel better scout! I think I gave you a big over the Internet

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If ABR fucking framed Karnos or there are two traitors I am going to be shocked.

Like this is a repeat of 1800 bad.

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Goodie will read tomorrow in the AM if I get time

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Scum usually is. It is a matter of making it look not stressful while really freaking out in the PT.

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Let's wait and see what happens with the replacements. I am of half the mind if ABR isn't a traitor he is a mason with Worldz.

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I am always paranoid. It is a matter of if I am paranoid and right.

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Have a fun holiday Froot!

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I am horrible with guessing Signed posts help.

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Yeah Hahahaha most are me panicking

Town is going to be fucked by inactivity as activity is a "town tell" according to site meta.

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Easy stuff out of the way

Math uses the gun to shoot Karnos in a massive hail of bullets grandiosely showing off they attempt to kill Karnos

and when no one is looking weeps over their grave

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Yeah I am on lunch break ATM.

Talked with Titus about thread being open as that is a horrible decision.

He wants us to pull a risky gambit where we have three NKs and instantly win. It is too risky here to do that. Much as I love risky gambits.
Kinda pissed that thread open is a horrible decision IMHO but nothing I can do about it so game goes on.

Because if someone protects any of the kills I and Karnos would be screwed. And I don't want you to play it alone. Two kills of town and then we have 2 v whatever should be fine with ABR in my camp.

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Will check on things later tonight when I have calmed down.

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Yeah we gotta kill Karnos and have ABR townread me. Damn. We gotta kill Karnos.

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Yep so it is a no no.

Just shoot Karnos.
Karnos will probably kill JaeReed or D&D.

I am almost thinking of protecting/jailblocking JaeReed for the towncred
And you observe me to verify if I do what I will say I will do. Since while you have a townread nice to "back it up" with ABR's claim I could be scum

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@Titus even if ABR puts my action first?

Mod question above

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Don't worry about it! Enjoy your holiday.

We can adjust Just glad you are playing.

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Thinking of sending this to D&D and jailkeep ing him

Hey SirCakez Math here. Jailkept you based on this post:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8314745

I think conf scum Karnos is trying to do something with me and JaeReed I just don't know what. My Jailkeep has no association with the games prison mechanics.

If you wish (but don't have to) please let me know if you have a night action that you'd like to not be roleblocked from then mention a friendly chat in your first post. This will also be a clue to JaeReed that you were jailkept as I did with him the first night. If you don't have a night action and/or don't care if blocked talk about daybreak and a special visitor in your first post. I will pipe up with about how it seems legit. If JaeReed is scum I expect to die tonight so if I live JaeReed is conf!town. If you do not wish to answer then you can do nothing or just say that you are ignoring the message you got at night.

If you had a night action sorry.

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I would say Klingon gets the notes for the dead so I would send a note to Karnos.

Make it say something like

"Tried to redirect Math tonight as she has a gung ho attitude towards killing you. A Math tunnel is something to be afraid of so want to get people to conf scum her." - PV

It is risky if Klingon knows the original sender but we need to make it sound PV like which I am bad at.

Will delete conf scum but I never use commas lol so won't do that.

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Meh not worth it.

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Meaning framing PV.

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Meh I think I will jail Worldz instead maybe. Or you kill Worldz instead.

PV I want around to mislynch ABR since I will probably be stuck townreading him. D&D I am stuck semi scumreading.

Having those messages may save us.

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We could kill FAngel too but I don't like to kill replace ins. Ruins fun for replace ins.

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{Math, grovyle}
{Yume, Klingon}
{D&D, Koggz}
{Drixx, ABR, Vedith}
{Random, Pere}
{scout}
{Worldz, karnos}

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That was Jae's original list.

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He thinks Klingon is scum.
Townreads you now.

Doesn't have any other strong reads but is losing faith in ABR.

I hope Karnos doesn't kill JaeReed. That would suck Then I will have to make a new town beard.

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I do too except for the fact you said Karbos was a matrix vig when he wasn't.

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Fixed for you

Technically we need the fear Karnos can kill anyone.

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Can't it is house if I stop he screams I am scum as nausea.

House reads me really well. Damn it.

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Blah. Fuck FYI I plan on weakening my town read of you.

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Yeah. God damn it. House and FA know Gistou too damn well. This game just got worse. House caught me in that being dicey.

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Taking a break from the thread for now. Hoping this will just die out.

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Yeah shit we be fucked. I need to get someone else on my side. Having the thread open fucked us. I am seriously going to have words over this post game. Town doesn't get free help because they went inactive. This is shit.

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Please do. Pick anyone with stealth level 2

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If you have to go to three do it.

I didn't lie I just didn't see it. The fact he is painting it as lying is shit.

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Yep. This twilight should have never happened.

We mislynch to stop communication and this shit happens.

I am so done playing Titus games for a while because there is 0 reason there had to be a twilight here. Day should have entirely ended.

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I have to go to work now sorry.

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Gala and extra combat aren't able to be triggered together.

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Up to you but I think no. It would create a 1v1 and they already think I am scum so they would think I have the message. That ship has sailed.

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Pretty much I think the cards are dealt and either I shoot Karnos and pray or I scum claim and shoot someone else and get role info for you. I think if we shoot Karnos and let PV / ABR be the center of the day it will be okay.

We also have to have me not block Karnos's kill and get info on literally anyone else. Like worlds and you hit someone else and pray it isn't Karnos's or the mysterious Doctor.

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Pretty much I have to either put up the best performance of my life or we stall a single day before my proper lynch.

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I am thinking I buddy PV this might work.

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Never mind PV is the mislynch dujour gotta do FA at this point.

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Or Worldz.

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The trigger should be if town passes. There was a big long post in bold revising the trigger *sigh* but that is the idea.

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Well we would all have to talk on PM.

You are literally picking and choosing to listen to seemingly random things and not others.

You let people talk after hammer even though it was town's issue that they went inactive.

They could have easily asked mechanics questions over PM.

You said night wouldn't end not day. If I had know DAY would continue I don't vote random there.

You are literally changing how things work with no notice and then accepting half of our submissions.

I have a right to be pissed. Hell if you are overworked or to sick get Varsoon to help but I plan on having this PT be public post game and if people think I am too angry I will deal. I see no reason to take this to PM after trying to work with you privately on Skype.

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If NOTHING would change then I would have been party leader.

Now Sooper's only option is to claim mod mistake publically in the thread. Which you then can't confirm or deny.

This is ridiculous.

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The biggest thing will be to not let town catch on it is bastard. Winning at this point is a pie in the sky dream.

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Okay I did mess up the night ending but come on. You pick an arbitrary time for day to end it is crap.