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Post Post #924 (isolation #200) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:11 pm

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OK SO

HURT: ALL
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Post Post #925 (isolation #201) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:12 pm

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HEAL: FARREN
HEAL: VANDER
HEAL: MYSTIC BEAR THE BEST
HEAL: NORWEE
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Post Post #926 (isolation #202) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:12 pm

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I DONT KNOW WHO TO FUCKING TRUST FOR A 5TH WHOS IN
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Post Post #927 (isolation #203) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:13 pm

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@farren @vander @ norwee i will trust whatever u 3 will vote on the majority to be the final trusted actually
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Post Post #992 (isolation #204) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:46 am

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lol i thought we made posts recently but i guess now but in hydra chat we were talking abt treating this like a draft.


also im personally most sure on the 3 i have chosen so far im least sure of jackson/bugspray being town
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #205) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:55 pm

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Norwee who are we putting in the last spot?
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #206) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:12 pm

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In post 1039, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1026, Mystic Bear wrote:Norwee who are we putting in the last spot?
Are you just not even trying anymore?
we developed a townblock and a blacklist for the coalition why u wanna discredit us?
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #207) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:12 pm

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In post 1038, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1023, Farren wrote:Which right now describes your coalition, mine, and Vanders's.

I wouldn't put STAYC in mine. I distrust derp clears in general.
I agree that derp-clears shouldn't be a sole reason to TR someone, although I do think STAYC has been getting townier since my catch-up.
how do u feel about bugspray
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #208) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:04 am

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lol @ trying

i've posted more in my hydra discord with koba than my work discord.

We are all in here.
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #209) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:10 am

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Post Post #1046 (isolation #210) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:11 am

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wait thats the wrong one
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #211) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:11 am

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Post Post #1071 (isolation #212) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:25 pm

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i think im comfortable saying we exclude bugspray/starc/jackson and win the game
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #213) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:26 pm

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basically whichever of tris/dostin norwee/vanders/farren are more comfortable with we should go with.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #214) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:17 pm

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no its not lmfao
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #215) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:18 pm

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i refuse to hammer this coalition
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #216) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:18 pm

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norwee why are u suddenly ok with scooby slot now?
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #217) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:23 pm

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:shifty:
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #218) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:24 pm

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im just gonna tab out and let yall sort it out i put in all the effort i was willing to do during the coalition phase. town is too lost and we already lost the battle of forming a townblock.
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #219) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:56 pm

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i like dostin for the final spot in the coalition

any1 object to that?
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #220) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:05 pm

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stayc/jackson/bugspray are my top 3 picks
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #221) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:06 pm

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im kinda feeling the stayc/jackson tinfoil the way that they're using the coalition votes to push the jackson coalition through
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #222) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:06 pm

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no no

stayc/jackson/bugs are our top picks for scum

our preferred coalition that we are more sure of is

MB/Norwee/Vand/Farren

we are proposing adding dostin to it.
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #223) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:26 am

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VOTE: JacksonVirgo
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #224) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 1124, tris wrote:the way they came in seemed town to me. and, scooby seemed town too
if "seeming" town is the baseline for making townreads then damn lmfao.
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Post Post #1134 (isolation #225) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:38 am

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i gave already on this sinking ship im just voting the scum for yall when the coalition inevitably fails bc u cant choose properly and are chasing ppl who are being mean as scum instead of the nice ppl.

complacency is scummier than aggressiveness.
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #226) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:39 am

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i gave up*
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #227) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:40 am

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like ill fucking put bugspray on the coaliton im that desperate to just blacklist both jackson/stayc who i believe are working together to at least keep the game going for them instead of autolosing.
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #228) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:41 am

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jackson flimsily tried to instant fos us upon replacing in and then has been radio silent mostly abt our slot by just flipping over to a tr bc they're trapped into doing that bc theyre scum its really that simple.
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Post Post #1143 (isolation #229) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:10 am

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In post 1140, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1138, tris wrote:HURT: all

HEAL: Farren
HEAL: Vanderscamp
HEAL: Mystic Bear
HEAL: NorwegianboyEE
HEAL: tris

you probably know virgo better or something.
They've played a total of (1) game with me, they're just overly cocky of their reads. Tris instantly backing out of a read since someone with more of a presence appears saying they should do otherwise probably leads to them being more likely intimidated scum, Town likely wouldn't back out of their reads like that. Especially with Mystic's weak ass reasonings. Mystics actual conversation with tris makes me think that there is a >rand possibility they're SvS.
this isn't your towngame lmfso
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #230) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:10 am

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sorry bud but stayc spewed u scum
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #231) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:15 am

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jackson came in, chose a coalition with himself in it, told StayC in scum chat to put a vote on it so theres pressure to consolidate on it, and has been lurky since
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #232) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:20 am

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In post 1148, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mystic didn’t you townread Scoob prior? Do you think their ISO prior to replacement isn’t good?
it was a meme read lmfao. sorta one of those reads you wish was correct
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Post Post #1154 (isolation #233) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:21 am

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In post 1147, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1146, Mystic Bear wrote:jackson came in, chose a coalition with himself in it, told StayC in scum chat to put a vote on it so theres pressure to consolidate on it, and has been lurky since
I’m not a himself

Me being lurky means fuck all since I’ve already replaced out of a bunch of games and had lower activity in it recently (the micro game with bugs) because I don’t have the real effort to play but me continuing this conversation probably breaks rules somewhere so I’m gonna stop.

Keep your read I don’t care, eliminate me first I don’t care, just stop beingbso cocky once I flip Town.
TMIing that your coalition wont work lol
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #234) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:21 am

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also sorry for the pronouns mistake
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #235) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:01 am

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its probly just jackson/stayc like we've been saying forever

hilarious jackson is trying to frame us as scum when we refused this coalition in the first place

VOTE: Jackson Virgo
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #236) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:02 am

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In post 1169, JacksonVirgo wrote:Alright I think the solve is tris/mystic.

VOTE: Mystic
u dont get to turn around and call us scum here lmfao
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #237) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:03 am

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like we literally said over and over dont put jackson or stayc on the coalition and the town still went ahead and did it anyway

its wild

we were ready to put bugs on just cuz they replaced out lolol
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #238) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:04 am

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if u actually are scumreading someone who fought hard to prevent a different coalition without us on it, and eliminate a teamread that we couldn't use anymore like???
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Post Post #1175 (isolation #239) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:04 am

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seriously imagine trying to elim us when A COALITION WE DID NOT LIKE AND DID NOT SUPPORT AND DID NOT VOTE FOR FAILS
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #240) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:05 am

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JV is pretty much guranteed scum at this point

partner is probly STAYC
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #241) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:07 am

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Here's some basic game theory:

COALITION
Farren [5]: Farren, Mystic Bear, Vanderscamp, JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE
NorwegianboyEE [5]: Farren, Mystic Bear, Vanderscamp, JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE
StarToAYoungCulture [5]: Farren, Mystic Bear, Vanderscamp, JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE
JacksonVirgo [5]: Farren, Mystic Bear, Vanderscamp, JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE
tris [5]: Farren, Mystic Bear, Vanderscamp, JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE [HAMMER]

Vanderscamp [5]: Vanderscamp, Mystic Bear, tris, JacksonVirgo, StarToAYoungCulture

dostin [5]: dostin, Mystic Bear, Farren, JacksonVirgo, StarToAYoungCulture

Mystic Bear [4]: Farren, Vanderscamp, Mystic Bear, NorwegianboyEE

bugspray [2]: bugspray, NorwegianboyEE


People on the coalition that went thru but didnt vote for it are almost definitely town:

Vanderscamp/Me

People on the coalition that went thru and voted for it are neutral:

Norwee/Farren

People not on the coalition that went thru and voted for it are possible accomplices:

Tris/Stayc

Jackson Virgo is a lying scumbuckeet yeeet them to the mooon
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Post Post #1180 (isolation #242) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:12 am

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Like lets use some BASIC LOGIC


Us being consistent as fk:

MB: Jackson Virgo is scum, we dont want him on coalition
Town: Puts JV on Coalition anyway
MB: no this is dumb JV is scum do not pass this
*Coalition fails*
MB: WTF !!>!?! WHY THE FU!))E!)# DID YOU (!U#(! VOTE:JV

Inconsistent JV Scumbag:

JV: I like MB lets do a coalition with them!! they r so townie.
JV: Pushes coalition thru
*Coalition Fails*
JV: MB IS SCUM!!!!


If JV thought we were scum why tf would they vote for a coalition with us on it!?!?!?
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #243) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:16 am

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JacksonVirgo [5]: Farren, Mystic Bear, Vanderscamp, JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE <--- this is you voting for us on the coalition

Mystic Bear [4]: Farren, Vanderscamp, Mystic Bear, NorwegianboyEE <---- this is us not voting for you on the coalition


There's no misrep here learn to fucking read
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #244) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:17 am

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In post 1183, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 1181, JacksonVirgo wrote:Fuck off with that misrep
I just isoed Jackson and I don't see him pushing on mystic here as being inconsistent.
yeah they repped in immediately with an agenda to discredit us lmfao
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Post Post #1186 (isolation #245) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:17 am

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its pretty fucking inconsistent to vote for a coalition with somebody you dont trust
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #246) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:18 am

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what i love is that some of pooky's posts i feel that i would have made myself and others would mistake them as mine LMFAO
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #247) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:18 am

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In post 1187, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1184, Mystic Bear wrote:JacksonVirgo [5]: Farren, Mystic Bear, Vanderscamp, JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE <--- this is you voting for us on the coalition

Mystic Bear [4]: Farren, Vanderscamp, Mystic Bear, NorwegianboyEE <---- this is us not voting for you on the coalition


There's no misrep here learn to fucking read
I put you in the coalition as a compromise over dostin, not because I felt you were townie.
nah if u rly scumread us as hard as u claim u will never compromise on a coalition with us
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #248) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:18 am

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like how much more transparently scummy can JV get.


IN WHAT FANTASY UNIVERSE DO YOU PUT PEOPLE YOU SCUMREAD ON YOUR COALITION AND PRETEND YOU ARE TRYING TO WIN FOR FUCKS SAKE
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #249) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:19 am

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u have slipped with your actions:

your actions do not line up with your words anymore.
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #250) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 1187, JacksonVirgo wrote:I put you in the coalition as a compromise over dostin, not because I felt you were townie.

NAH YOU FUCKING PUT US ON BECAUSE YOU KNEW IT WOULD FAIL AND YOU NEEDED A PUSH TARGET FOR TODAY
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #251) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 1183, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 1181, JacksonVirgo wrote:Fuck off with that misrep
I just isoed Jackson and I don't see him pushing on mystic here as being inconsistent.
bc they came in with an agenda just to discredit us bc we had what was probably a winning coalition forming
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #252) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:20 am

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In post 1182, JacksonVirgo wrote:You’re just reaching so far at this point, I can’t post much rn as I’m in an ambulance owo
more like a wahmbulance cause u caught
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #253) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:20 am

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JV DOES NOT HAVE A TOWN MINDSET


HE HAS A FORCE HIS WAY IN- FAIL THE COALITION AND THEN SET UP FOR A PUSH ELIM MINDSET
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #254) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:21 am

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I can't fucking believe this town decided to actually pass a coalition with this JacksonVirgo on it

like seriously are we just throwing the game at this point
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #255) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:21 am

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In post 1196, JacksonVirgo wrote:Pedit: I’m going to choose to ignore you
HIDE BITCH
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Post Post #1200 (isolation #256) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:22 am

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whats the misrep.


describe it to us
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Post Post #1202 (isolation #257) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:23 am

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nah bro you dont get to force YOUR COALITION THRU

THAT I DIDNT WANT

AND THEN TRY TO MISELIM ME AFTER YOUR FUCKING COALITION FAILS

LIKE SERIOUSLY WTF
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Post Post #1203 (isolation #258) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:24 am

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its called basic fucking decency

if I push a coalition and it fails - I take responsibility

you're literally pushing thru some shit coalition that failed and trying to blame it on ME when I Didn't even want that coalition to go through in the first fucking place
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #259) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:25 am

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In post 1201, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1200, Mystic Bear wrote:whats the misrep.


describe it to us
And you say I can’t read
i mean how about u put urself in our shoes.

assume we're town

and assume we dont know what ur alignment is


look at the way ur pushing us here

and tell us we should reasonably think you're doing this in good faith.

now, you would reasonably assume that yes, we think that you are coming from a scum pov trying to drive a poorly formed scumread on us while shoving through a coalition that had us on it while you claimed we were your top scumread.
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #260) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:26 am

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i mean the rest of this table is lost as fuck thats just facts and we knew they wouldnt be able to compromise on the correct coalition bc they couldnt stop FOSing eachother when we were like "bruh we TR both of u chill like we get ur paranoid etc"
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #261) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:26 am

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In post 1204, JacksonVirgo wrote:It wasn’t even mine what the fuckery are you on about. I compromised onto you where three others voted before me
keep saying that compromise bullshit

it looks to me like you saw a chance to fail the coalition and rushed to take it

I take my time and vet every person carefully and say very clearly what im ok with

you dont gaf all you care about is sneaking on
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #262) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:27 am

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In post 1204, JacksonVirgo wrote:It wasn’t even mine what the fuckery are you on about. I compromised onto you where three others voted before me
YOU LITERALLY VOTED FOR IT DUDE

WE DIDNT VOTE FOR IT

TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN YOUR LIFE
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #263) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:28 am

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i hope your S here cuz if you're T I might get banned post game for how hard im going to flame you for misplaying here
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #264) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:30 am

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i honestly dont think jackson had any real reads but thats beside the point
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #265) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:31 am

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its ok im gonna unplug

town doesnt listen to our coalition

town lets JV on

town just wants to throw

lim us or JV its cool whatever
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #266) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:33 am

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In post 719, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm not that good at catching up on games, actually I'm kinda shit at them.
Spoiler:
In post 13, Mystic Bear wrote:HEAL: farren
HEAL: vanderscamp
HEAL: mystic bear
HEAL: trisHEAL:
HEAL: scooby
What made you prop these people outside of just random?
In post 20, Mystic Bear wrote:wow we r so in sync we even post the same gifs

this isnt even discussed in our hydra discord

which btw already has 15000 msgs
Hey fam can you please sign your posts so we know who's speaking in each post, also there's no point in telling us your pronouns if we have no idea who the heck is speaking.
In post 23, Mystic Bear wrote:yes we discussed which 5 to nominate based on the vibe of their username
That answers my previous question.
In post 35, bugspray wrote:
In post 27, Mystic Bear wrote:we have 4 spots in the life boat so to secure your spot you need to town spew harder than you've ever townspewed before in your life
this post gives me red flashing brain lights

yeah baby i'll make you quiver
In post 37, bugspray wrote:okay can i take that back its way more sexual than i thought it would be
Oh my...
In post 57, Mystic Bear wrote:
In post 56, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Wtf is wrong with you. I didn’t even see it begin until now.
artificial reaction. caught scum
I can only assume these types of posts are from koba. Why? Because I hate how they post ;)
In post 68, Mystic Bear wrote:This is a serious post.

All of my posts are serious. But this one will be more serious than most.

We are town.

We will decide the coalition.

We will win on Day 1.

In the unlikely event that this does not work, we will accept BoP D1 Execution.

But we will not fail. We will put together a winning coalition come Hell or High Water.

Buckle up your seatbelts because this game is not just going to be a game.

This is going to be an EXPERIENCE.

You will be able to tell your grandkids about this legendary game 60 years down the line.

It will be LEGENDARY.

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In post 95, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t care if i’m eliminated because of bad play by others. Go ahead, vote me.
Better prepare for the worst case scenario though, as unfortunately. I’m not scum because i’m "ghosting" or "defensive" or whatever BS justification behind the push.
This is a similar mindset/post that NEE had in the musical mafia large normal game where they were town. Just from this post I'm soul-reading NEE as town.
In post 106, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 103, Scooby Dooby Doo wrote:
In post 100, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 99, bugspray wrote:scooby and magic bear are same alignment
I could believe it.
In post 102, Datisi wrote:dammit
No mod interference please?
What? Did the mod reveal something?
Just looks like that their pagetop got stolen.

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The whole early interaction with NEE and Mystic solidifies my NEE TR.

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In post 144, Vanderscamp wrote:FIRST
Looks like I gotta forget all the other posts before this.. I mean what posts?
In post 161, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 160, Mystic Bear wrote:ok gun to head who is on your coalition Norwee?
It doesn't work like that.
I have to think about my decision. I'm playing the game somewhat normally right now to gauge reactions and find real alignment tells.
This is obviously Town, everything is backing up that read for me.
In post 172, Mystic Bear wrote:CULT LEADER NORWEE
CULT LEADER NORWEE
CULT LEADER NORWEE
This drops Mystic to a SR, and not being able to know if this is Koba or not is actually hurting my read on them.
In post 193, StarToAYoungCulture wrote:meta is trash
Not the biggest fan of these small pop-ins.
In post 257, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Actually it's STAYC shortened. My bad.
Yeah, it's also a kpop group. Fun times
In post 302, tris wrote:wow. it really is nice not to have to know who the scum are yet
I can let go the fact that MWolf thinks they're the shit but this blatant sheeping is just simply bad.
In post 313, Mystic Bear wrote:
In post 311, tris wrote:i will probably take them up on their offer
stop giving me bad vibes >:(
This literally gave me chills, this is exactly what I was thinking so they're probably more townier than I originally thought so they probably a null to me now.
In post 560, dostin wrote:
In post 390, StarToAYoungCulture wrote:
In post 92, Scooby Dooby Doo wrote:I think the optimal strategy here is to include me in the coalition as I am town, and this would mean we only need 4 other towns in it to win

HEAL: Scooby Dooby Doo
Ok I believe in you
HEAL: Scooby Dooby Doo

I'll post again when I have a read
You are very quick to trust lots of people in a game where most of us don't know for sure who are the bad guys, especially if you are saying you don't have any reads.
I REALLY like this post.
In post 561, dostin wrote:
In post 394, Mystic Bear wrote:norwee if ur town maybe u should lay out ur thought process cause rn all ur doing is obfuscating ur read process and movement via anger which can be easily faked regardless. The obfuscation when being prompted to provide more logic/a thought process/current thoughts is scummy.

Meanwhile u have players like scooby and tris who come off a sloose and are posting their honest thoughts.
If u wanna win with town u need to be cooperative in a townhunting stage of the game.
I was thinking along these lines and thinking that for town, the main motivation on everyone's mind right from the start of the game is going to be to make it as obvious as possible that they are town. Norwegianboy came into the game at the very start already defensive (in a part of the game where there is no risk for town to be miseliminated, so they have more important things to worry about like finding the right coalition and making it easy for other townies to find them), angry, and non-cooperative, which I think betrays a not-town mindset.
I do agree with this logic, I think it's sound although Norwegian collapsed under heat in a town game I played with them (with me being scum), as long as memory serves me right of course.
In post 573, Farren wrote:I keep getting distracted by the Norwegian / Mystic show.

Let's say Norwegian's scum. Norwegian's motive as scum in offering to support the coalition that doesn't include him in exchange for eliminating Dostin later is ... what?

Possibilities:
WIFOM. WIFOM is only meaningful to scum if there's scum in the coalition, or if it helps get scum into the coalition. The likelihood of Norwegian getting into any coalition at this point is slim to none, with odds on none. WIFOM would have to be aimed at getting Norwegian's partner into the coalition.

Dostin / Norwegian seems rather laughable as a team, but that's the only person I can think of that would make a sense from a WIFOM perspective. Doesn't seem likely.

Trying to get himself in somehow? Don't see how this would have any chance of working.

Trolling? Not having any idea what would work so trying to throw anything at the wall to see if it would stick? That's all I can think of.
WIFOM arguments are in itself WIFOM and I don't particularly like having them, having said that I do think Norwegian is Town for not hating being in the Coalition. Scum would want to be shoved in that boi so fast that they'll at least try and get Town-read whereas Norwegian isn't, although they still are posting content which makes me think they're not scum wanting to lurk and stay out of the Coalition as a gambit. I like you quite a bit, but not as much as NEE and Vander
In post 649, Mystic Bear wrote:
In post 643, Vanderscamp wrote:I'll believe this is a genuine question.

We doubt STAYC is actually some refugee from some other site. too familiar with site meta/functionality. Feels like somebody who's played this setup before and would know scum have daychat.

Also sounds suspiciously like TaylorSwift.
Oh god not again

I think I unknowingly just skipped a few posts like I tend to do when catching up, goddamn.
In post 668, StarToAYoungCulture wrote:UNVOTE:
HURT: all
ok Ill find another town leader
I nominate myself
In post 701, Farren wrote:Greetings, JacksonVirgo.

I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the game, once you've had a chance to catch up.
Greetings
In post 706, Mystic Bear wrote:losing scooby might be the greatest tragedy in this game's history.

Welcome Jackson!
This is the ultimate suckerpunch to my gut.


CT - { }
ACT - { }
TR - { NEE, Vanderscamp }
TL - { dostin, Farren }
NR - { bugspray, StayC, Mystic }
SL - { }
SR - { tris }
ACS - {}
CS - {}

HURT: all
HEAL: Norwegian
HEAL: Vander
HEAL: dostin
HEAL: Farren
HEAL: JacksonVirgo
VOTE: tris

Which leaves bugspray, Mystic, tris and STAYC outside.
I'm not entirely sure how the coalition voting works but I think I got it.

If you disagree on someone I put/didn't put into it slap me in the face and explain why.

literally u put us 2nd to the bottom and theres only 2 scum we can all do the math here lmfao
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #267) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:33 am

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LOLOLOLOOLLOLOLOL
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Post Post #1220 (isolation #268) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:33 am

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JV is so blatantly scum here if they dont get elimd town deserves to lose have fun
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #269) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:35 am

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whats hilarious tho is that jackson got us to townread norwee which lowkey helped us sort an easier coalition bc we were like struggling like we didnt know who tf to keep off but then putting norwee on and jackson/scooby off made it so much more natural and easy.
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #270) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:36 am

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In post 1221, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1218, Mystic Bear wrote:
In post 719, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm not that good at catching up on games, actually I'm kinda shit at them.
Spoiler:
In post 13, Mystic Bear wrote:HEAL: farren
HEAL: vanderscamp
HEAL: mystic bear
HEAL: trisHEAL:
HEAL: scooby
What made you prop these people outside of just random?
In post 20, Mystic Bear wrote:wow we r so in sync we even post the same gifs

this isnt even discussed in our hydra discord

which btw already has 15000 msgs
Hey fam can you please sign your posts so we know who's speaking in each post, also there's no point in telling us your pronouns if we have no idea who the heck is speaking.
In post 23, Mystic Bear wrote:yes we discussed which 5 to nominate based on the vibe of their username
That answers my previous question.
In post 35, bugspray wrote:
In post 27, Mystic Bear wrote:we have 4 spots in the life boat so to secure your spot you need to town spew harder than you've ever townspewed before in your life
this post gives me red flashing brain lights

yeah baby i'll make you quiver
In post 37, bugspray wrote:okay can i take that back its way more sexual than i thought it would be
Oh my...
In post 57, Mystic Bear wrote:
In post 56, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Wtf is wrong with you. I didn’t even see it begin until now.
artificial reaction. caught scum
I can only assume these types of posts are from koba. Why? Because I hate how they post ;)
In post 68, Mystic Bear wrote:This is a serious post.

All of my posts are serious. But this one will be more serious than most.

We are town.

We will decide the coalition.

We will win on Day 1.

In the unlikely event that this does not work, we will accept BoP D1 Execution.

But we will not fail. We will put together a winning coalition come Hell or High Water.

Buckle up your seatbelts because this game is not just going to be a game.

This is going to be an EXPERIENCE.

You will be able to tell your grandkids about this legendary game 60 years down the line.

It will be LEGENDARY.

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In post 95, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t care if i’m eliminated because of bad play by others. Go ahead, vote me.
Better prepare for the worst case scenario though, as unfortunately. I’m not scum because i’m "ghosting" or "defensive" or whatever BS justification behind the push.
This is a similar mindset/post that NEE had in the musical mafia large normal game where they were town. Just from this post I'm soul-reading NEE as town.
In post 106, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 103, Scooby Dooby Doo wrote:
In post 100, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 99, bugspray wrote:scooby and magic bear are same alignment
I could believe it.
In post 102, Datisi wrote:dammit
No mod interference please?
What? Did the mod reveal something?
Just looks like that their pagetop got stolen.

--

The whole early interaction with NEE and Mystic solidifies my NEE TR.

--
In post 144, Vanderscamp wrote:FIRST
Looks like I gotta forget all the other posts before this.. I mean what posts?
In post 161, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 160, Mystic Bear wrote:ok gun to head who is on your coalition Norwee?
It doesn't work like that.
I have to think about my decision. I'm playing the game somewhat normally right now to gauge reactions and find real alignment tells.
This is obviously Town, everything is backing up that read for me.
In post 172, Mystic Bear wrote:CULT LEADER NORWEE
CULT LEADER NORWEE
CULT LEADER NORWEE
This drops Mystic to a SR, and not being able to know if this is Koba or not is actually hurting my read on them.
In post 193, StarToAYoungCulture wrote:meta is trash
Not the biggest fan of these small pop-ins.
In post 257, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Actually it's STAYC shortened. My bad.
Yeah, it's also a kpop group. Fun times
In post 302, tris wrote:wow. it really is nice not to have to know who the scum are yet
I can let go the fact that MWolf thinks they're the shit but this blatant sheeping is just simply bad.
In post 313, Mystic Bear wrote:
In post 311, tris wrote:i will probably take them up on their offer
stop giving me bad vibes >:(
This literally gave me chills, this is exactly what I was thinking so they're probably more townier than I originally thought so they probably a null to me now.
In post 560, dostin wrote:
In post 390, StarToAYoungCulture wrote:
In post 92, Scooby Dooby Doo wrote:I think the optimal strategy here is to include me in the coalition as I am town, and this would mean we only need 4 other towns in it to win

HEAL: Scooby Dooby Doo
Ok I believe in you
HEAL: Scooby Dooby Doo

I'll post again when I have a read
You are very quick to trust lots of people in a game where most of us don't know for sure who are the bad guys, especially if you are saying you don't have any reads.
I REALLY like this post.
In post 561, dostin wrote:
In post 394, Mystic Bear wrote:norwee if ur town maybe u should lay out ur thought process cause rn all ur doing is obfuscating ur read process and movement via anger which can be easily faked regardless. The obfuscation when being prompted to provide more logic/a thought process/current thoughts is scummy.

Meanwhile u have players like scooby and tris who come off a sloose and are posting their honest thoughts.
If u wanna win with town u need to be cooperative in a townhunting stage of the game.
I was thinking along these lines and thinking that for town, the main motivation on everyone's mind right from the start of the game is going to be to make it as obvious as possible that they are town. Norwegianboy came into the game at the very start already defensive (in a part of the game where there is no risk for town to be miseliminated, so they have more important things to worry about like finding the right coalition and making it easy for other townies to find them), angry, and non-cooperative, which I think betrays a not-town mindset.
I do agree with this logic, I think it's sound although Norwegian collapsed under heat in a town game I played with them (with me being scum), as long as memory serves me right of course.
In post 573, Farren wrote:I keep getting distracted by the Norwegian / Mystic show.

Let's say Norwegian's scum. Norwegian's motive as scum in offering to support the coalition that doesn't include him in exchange for eliminating Dostin later is ... what?

Possibilities:
WIFOM. WIFOM is only meaningful to scum if there's scum in the coalition, or if it helps get scum into the coalition. The likelihood of Norwegian getting into any coalition at this point is slim to none, with odds on none. WIFOM would have to be aimed at getting Norwegian's partner into the coalition.

Dostin / Norwegian seems rather laughable as a team, but that's the only person I can think of that would make a sense from a WIFOM perspective. Doesn't seem likely.

Trying to get himself in somehow? Don't see how this would have any chance of working.

Trolling? Not having any idea what would work so trying to throw anything at the wall to see if it would stick? That's all I can think of.
WIFOM arguments are in itself WIFOM and I don't particularly like having them, having said that I do think Norwegian is Town for not hating being in the Coalition. Scum would want to be shoved in that boi so fast that they'll at least try and get Town-read whereas Norwegian isn't, although they still are posting content which makes me think they're not scum wanting to lurk and stay out of the Coalition as a gambit. I like you quite a bit, but not as much as NEE and Vander
In post 649, Mystic Bear wrote:
In post 643, Vanderscamp wrote:I'll believe this is a genuine question.

We doubt STAYC is actually some refugee from some other site. too familiar with site meta/functionality. Feels like somebody who's played this setup before and would know scum have daychat.

Also sounds suspiciously like TaylorSwift.
Oh god not again

I think I unknowingly just skipped a few posts like I tend to do when catching up, goddamn.
In post 668, StarToAYoungCulture wrote:UNVOTE:
HURT: all
ok Ill find another town leader
I nominate myself
In post 701, Farren wrote:Greetings, JacksonVirgo.

I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the game, once you've had a chance to catch up.
Greetings
In post 706, Mystic Bear wrote:losing scooby might be the greatest tragedy in this game's history.

Welcome Jackson!
This is the ultimate suckerpunch to my gut.


CT - { }
ACT - { }
TR - { NEE, Vanderscamp }
TL - { dostin, Farren }
NR - { bugspray, StayC, Mystic }
SL - { }
SR - { tris }
ACS - {}
CS - {}

HURT: all
HEAL: Norwegian
HEAL: Vander
HEAL: dostin
HEAL: Farren
HEAL: JacksonVirgo
VOTE: tris

Which leaves bugspray, Mystic, tris and STAYC outside.
I'm not entirely sure how the coalition voting works but I think I got it.

If you disagree on someone I put/didn't put into it slap me in the face and explain why.

literally u put us 2nd to the bottom and theres only 2 scum we can all do the math here lmfao
You mean I put you in the null read tier
the fact u had so many null reads upon replacing in while having strong reads elsewhere with our slot having the most content points to the reads list being fake anyways so get outtttttta here
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Post Post #1225 (isolation #271) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:36 am

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In post 1223, JacksonVirgo wrote:Are you insane or stupid or both
insane ye
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #272) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 1204, JacksonVirgo wrote:It wasn’t even mine what the fuckery are you on about. I compromised onto you where three others voted before me

YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!

YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!

YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!

YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!
YOU VOTED FOR THE COALITION !!!!!

I'm so sick and tired of people not taking responsibility for their actions

YOUR COALITION FAILED

I DID NOT SUPPORT THIS COALITION

YOU DO NOT GET TO PIN RESPONSIBILITY ON ME WHEN I DIDNT EVEN SUPPORT THAT COALITION IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE.
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #273) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:39 am

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quote the misreps
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #274) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:40 am

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we can go through them together in good faith. but in order to do that you need to approach in good faith.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #275) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:41 am

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pooky prob gonna still be bad cop but we can go thru the socratic method here and get to a better answer
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #276) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:43 am

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pooky just brought up the point in hydra chat, and it reminded me of the point we gave to norwee when he was on us: if we were really scum we would have literally let jackson on and then chainsaw them when it fails.
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #277) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:45 am

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In post 1236, JacksonVirgo wrote:1) Claiming I said I TRd you to put you in the coalition
2) 180 on that and said you were my top SR
3) Blatabtky rip on my catch-up post read list where I was obviously null reading you



I’m fucking sick if your blatant discrediting and it’s exactly what you did in Bending and you got fucking townread and I’m so sick of you.
ok so:

1) we never said you TR us. We said that you were scumreading us/were in the bottom of your reads. Therefore, you compromising to let us onto a coalition was not logical of an action to take. ESPECIALLY when you do so and then turn around and pin us. In fact its the exact scum strategy we pointed out earlier we would take if we were scum and you were town here.

2) see 1

3) I just dont see how u could have null read us there, can you try to explain why you did null read us there instead of having a solid read? you put us as 2nd to last so that naturally says you think we are scum via PoE.
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #278) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:47 am

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i cant speak for pooky there but I still fail to see the logic of: bottom 2 poe read-> not hard push off of coalition
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #279) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:48 am

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In post 1236, JacksonVirgo wrote:1) Claiming I said I TRd you to put you in the coalition
2) 180 on that and said you were my top SR
3) Blatabtky rip on my catch-up post read list where I was obviously null reading you



I’m fucking sick if your blatant discrediting and it’s exactly what you did in Bending and you got fucking townread and I’m so sick of you.

1) Claiming I said I TRd you to put you in the coalition2) 180 on that and said you were my top SR3) Blatabtky rip on my catch-up post read list where I was obviously null reading youI’m fucking sick if your blatant discrediting and it’s exactly what you did in Bending and you got fucking townread and I’m so sick of you.

you're right

I made a mistake when I said you TR'd me to put me on the coalition

that was an assumption on my part - because its common fucking sense and a basic responsibility.

It's even fucking worse if you put me on coalition when you don't TR me because it means you're scum who doesnt give a shit if coalition fails and wants to set up a mis-elim for when it does fail.

If you're actually TOWN who decided to put someone you didnt TR onto coalition then I have no words for how bad of a player you are.

I do not let people I don't TR onto my coalition because I want to win on d1.
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #280) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:48 am

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I'd definitely like u to explain your reads progression on us per-coalition though especially the nullread at the beginning
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #281) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:00 am

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If its not you then there's a deepwolf within the coalition and maybe some of that infighting was actually uh.. good bc those townies knew better than us LOL. I do townread norwee so that leaves farren vs vanders
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #282) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:29 am

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I read thru farren's iso and like the only thing like that pings me is the lack of content but the content feels good. although the fact is that jackson town would mean one of norwee/vanders/farren is scum, and then that tone that farren has that is noncombative suddenly comes to light as a tone taken to not get int ofights and be trusted?


idk

i think farren has been towny but i dont follow ur logic as for why they aren't.

I'm willing to hear ur side tho since ur my top townread within coalition outside of norwee.


i just feel like leaving jackson in the coalition was such a big mistake because even if it failed like deconfirming the team pairings of tris/jackson and stayc/jackson just clears jackson there and it would have been better to leave them out
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #283) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:29 am

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can u sell me on the farren scumread vanders?
it doesnt have to be 1 in and 1 out so u could also be onto something.
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #284) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 1252, Vanderscamp wrote:I ultimately think MB is townier than farren and Norwegian has also said some things that I have found towny that I don't really remember right now.
But I'm still not sure how I feel about Norwegian because I do think his posts at the start of the game were incredibly scummy, he just hasn't been scummy since then.
I think like the extent of the abuse we pushed towards norwee and the way they responded to it kinda shifted us to townread them over time like theres a certain point where occams razor kicks in and shows that a certain person is most likely outside of their scumrange
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #285) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:36 am

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what do u think of stayc btw?
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #286) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:57 pm

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In post 1256, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 1254, Mystic Bear wrote:what do u think of stayc btw?
Generally pretty scummy but they asked in thread if scum have a daychat, which I believe was genuine.
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Post Post #1625 (isolation #287) » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:18 am

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we the mf best
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