Among Us Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MURDERCAT]

Who do you want Taly? Titus? I mean the three of us could move there I guess if you really think an elim is better.
HC seems .. unlikely at this point

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HC seems .. unlikely at this point

What part of my case do you think is obviously bad?

I'm just referencing the number of votes needed compared to e.g. Titus (or me)

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Taly I am current rereading some older stuff but I will sheep you, it seems like you have a better sense of the gamestate than I do and I think you are town.

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It's a 2 vote difference. Don't make it sound impossible.

I said it was unlikely not impossible.

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Rereading from page ~53 for about 10 pages or so

Spoiler:

i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

BM had a chance to put Titus at 3 if he wanted to form a CW earlier. In his iso there is some shade towards Titus, so I guess it is possible they are scum together and so Blitzo was the first real shot at a CW, but of course they cross vote later so maybe this falls apart.

also

i think this is the first time

Battle Mage

does not sus me in a game LMAO

does scum-

BM

really give

Flea

the benefit of the doubt here? 1296

Taly points out this post, which I think could still come from scum BM if Flea is town.

Oh, I figured out why I'm townreading TGP, and I'm not going to say.

Note to self to see if this was resolved, and ask about it if not.

There's a lot of stuff in here that is not really relevant to the main wagons, so I'm ignoring it. Maybe I am too high on Bell though.

VOTE: Haschel Cedricson

I'm going to need more than 13 posts.

Not related to the main wagons, but relevant to the present, so putting it here. I think there was an argument that DGB is voting popular wagons but so far I saw this and a vote for Taly.

Alright, it seems like we finally have a consensus to be dumb. I'm not going to stop the dumbness so I might as well make the best of it.

VOTE: Battle Mage

What to make of this. Is Titus/BM really TvT? I don't think it's SvS because Titus can just ride out the no elim plan. BM really sold me on how he approached me after my wagon so I guess if it's TvS I might lean more towards Titus. Hard to tell though.

VOTE: Titus

Haschel, you with me?

This is kinda weird considering the previous vote.

V E R D I C T
VOTE: Titus
I can't shift the bad feeling

I still don't think this is justified.

This wagon feels gross now. /:

UNVOTE:

Still like Bell for this, though it's a bit weird because his vote was so old. Maybe DGB and Flea scum together?

VOTE: Flea

Your words don't match your spew

I like that Ali and Akarin are both converging here.

UNVOTE: Titus for now while I reassess my mental state and my paranoia levels {]( ^_^;)[}

Maybe a weird reaction to the pressure??

VOTE: Reck

Feels the Titus wagon going and wants to park somewhere else? Why Reck though.

You're right

VOTE: Titus

I remember thinking this was weird but not really anywhere with it. Still not sure what to make of it.

so i know i've voted blitzo already but VOTE: blitzo to hammer the point home - this is scum.

VOTE: Blitzo

I can sheep that.

Sorry for those of you who don't like my VLA. I'm rarely around Friday nights and Saturdays. You can see it in my site history.

If I get miseliminated for voting scum and having a life, I can live with that. We still should be no executing though. If we do miseliminate, I'm objectively the best one. So like I said, no hard feelings.

TGP/Titus is another potential scum pair I think.

Ok I think that was all I wanted to get out of that. I feel like there's a world where Flea/DGB are scum together and another world where Titus/TGP are scum together.

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I will read HC's iso because it is short.

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Titus and Flea also good candidates for scum.

Flea, straight-up, do you think DGB is scum?

Who is HC scum with? BM seems like the only option

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Vote Haschel: if he's town it's no worse than a No Elim, and maybe he's scum.

It's 1 less body when talking about elo numbers, so hard disagree

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Are we going to reactor together cake? Assuming I'm alive tonight?

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That's the worse post restriction, but sure. We have a 3rd right?

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Also I read Akarin and Taly's posts on HC again, so I guess the question is if HC is bussing Titus. BM, what do you make of that? You dislike Titus as well right?

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And the other thing is a mechanical reason: Haschel has committed to being a bonus NK this game if he's town.

This is how we potentially end up with 3 dead though.

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You've ruled out all 15 other people as potential scum partners?

No I just don't see who in the major options makes sense. But I see the scum HC bussing Titus as the most likely

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You are discounting the possibility of shenanigans and tomfoolery by the scum team, which I am still expecting.

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Also I read Akarin and Taly's posts on HC again, so I guess the question is if HC is bussing Titus. BM, what do you make of that? You dislike Titus as well right?

@BM

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So you're back to arguing that TSQ designed the setup so the neat part about it is irrelevant?

No I'm saying there's even more neat stuff we don't know about.
Anyway I am doing the plan and I'm even open to HC elim, I'm just saying that if you think there is 0 chance of 3 dead tomorrow I think you are probably wrong about that.

[MURDERCAT]

Why shouldn't Gamma be with me and cakez? Aren't I sketchier?
(I'm afraid of being framed somehow for cake death)

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Also I don't know if Cake has a preference for reactor or comms post restriction, but if we have the same tasks I think reactor is easier. Also reactor sabotage is a thing so it might be better if we are there??

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No I'm saying we might have to be there to fix it.

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MC

, do you think

Titus

is more likely scum than

Hasch

? Everything considered?

Yes personally. Mostly because I could see a case for Titus being scum, but I only really see HC scum

with

Titus. Or at least that seems most likely to me.

[MURDERCAT]

Also just to be super clear, I am going to comms unless I specifically hear from cakez that he would rather do reactor.

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How do you think the framing could work in this scenario anyway?

Normal NK on cake and some sort of secret ability like lights sabotage to kill within a 3 person hood.

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Ok, you choose then Cake. If you think there is benefit of holding off on doing reactor then let's do comms. If you don't think it matters then let's do reactor. We have the same tasks I think.
Also, if we get a message about a reactor sabotage, should we both agree to go there?

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OK CAKE AND I WILL BE IN REACTOR

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I'll just say, I am much less likely to fail my reactor task

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Yeah I caught that too

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sounds reasonable

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@Taly are you here? You disappeared after asking me about Titus I was curious where that was going

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Your birthday?
Happy birthday Bell!

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I like your Chaos Flea!

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HC said they were coming back with something. I do wish ali was here

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still town

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Not convinced about Titus
Not sure who HC could be scum with
Sorry
VOTE: No elim

If there is a case either for one of the particular wagons or for limming in general that convinces me I'll reconsider, but I just feel like we are not organized enough to hit scum.

[MURDERCAT]

I really think we should elim.

Why though?

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I agree with BM's assessment that my understanding of the game is best approached with a Titus flip.

Up to you Taly, if you think you can go off and solve the game off the back of a Titus flip then say so
But right now it feels like we are floundering to me

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The only thing that makes me feel better about an HC vote is the wagon makeup, which I think is good. I feel a little iffy about blitzo and TGP but not enough for me to hate the wagon.

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note that cake and I will be in reactor, not comms

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Also let's not clog day start tomorrow with a bunch of crap, let's get who was where out first

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VOTE: TGP

I'll end the day with this as my vote I think

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wasted vote >:(

It's not wasted lol I am ok with no elim

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Trying to figure that out.

If we get stupid and eliminate Titus, I guess Cakez & Murdercat should be the new Titus & Gamma by virtue of their matching tasks.

In the 2 Location Sabotage version, Cakez & Murdercat take 1, Alisae/Taly/Gamma take the 2nd.

That's a bit messier and it would help if we had more info but so be it. It's probably pretty unlikely anyway.

acknolwedged

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we're doing akarin's

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E-2 on Titus

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Taly didn't come back, I am voting no elim with Taly.

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We get a lot of info tonight

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hoods + nightkills

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She also agreed to take more

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There will be flips to come

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good night

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DON'T FORGET TO DO YOUR TASK

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I THINK WE SHOULD START HERE

VOTE: TITUS

TALY YOU REALLY SCREWED ME YESTERDAY

[MURDERCAT]

@BM

JUST A GENERAL REMINDER, SORRY IF IT SEEMED MORE URGENT THAN I INTENDED

[MURDERCAT]

I FEEL GREAT, I JUST HAD MY 5TH CUP OF COFFEE

FLEA, I THINK YOU ARE ASKING WHY I'M UPSET WITH TALY. IT'S BECAUSE HE VOTED SO CLOSE TO DEADLINE I COULDN'T HAMMER. LIKE WITHIN 15 SECONDS.

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BUT LIKE, EVERYONE KNEW WHERE TO GO TO BE SAFE SO I THINK THAT WAS STILL PROBABLY GOOD.

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I AM GOING TO BE POSTING WAY LESS TO AVOID FUCKING THIS UP JUST FYI

WAS ANYONE MISSING?

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forgetting you had to do a task when that's the town wincon, is a big red flag.

THIS IS WHY I POSTED IT IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS

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I DO ENJOY THAT

IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY WORRIED ABOUT IT, I DID "CRUMB" IT YESTERDAY NOT THAT IT REALLY MATTERS

[MURDERCAT]

OK CAKE AND I WILL BE IN REACTOR

SUBTLY IS BEST WHEN DOING A CRUMB

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UNVOTE:

SHEEP TALY STILL UNTIL I REREAD THE ISO

[MURDERCAT]

MOSTLY TO SET UP THAT JOKE ABOUT SUBTLY

THINKING 10 MOVES AHEAD HERE

[MURDERCAT]

mine or titus'? i encourage both

NEITHER, AKARIN
PROBABLY TITUS TOO, BUT I DID DO THAT YESTERDAY

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I AM WORRIED TALY IS SCUM WITH TITUS FOR HOW END OF DAY WENT

JUST SAYING

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Murder, why am I potential S/S with Titus if you're looking for my opinions, word, and vote there without asserting a stance yourself?

I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION
THE LOGICAL PART OF MY BRAIN STILL THINKS YOU ARE PROBABLY TOWN
BUT I WILL DECIDE UPON LOOKING AT ISOS

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GAMMA YOU CAN TAKE THE TASK TODAY RIGHT? THAT IS AN OPTION, OR WE MAKE A SCUMMY PERSON TAKE IT (TITUS MAYBE).

I STILL THINK ALI IS TOWN BY THE WAY

[MURDERCAT]

none of us had any information to do

THIS MAKES SENSE WITH THE THEME THOUGH

[MURDERCAT]

HELLO

[MURDERCAT]

N1 Plan Final

Cafeteria

Akarin
Outworlder
Pooky

Electrical

Titus
Battle Mage
DGB
Blitzo

Security

TGP
Bell
Flea

Admin

Alisae
Taly
A Very Sad Gamma

Reactor

Cakez
Murdercat

1 Location Sabotage: Titus and Gamma should do it

2 Location Sabotage: Titus and Gamma should go to the 1st one, and Taly and Alisae should go to the 2nd one.

(Assuming one of the locations isn't already occupied, in which case it's just a 1 Location Sabotage.

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If Dead Titus:

1 Location Sabotage: Cakez & Murdercat

2 Location Sabotage: Cakez & Murdercat take 1, Alisae/Taly/Gamma take the 2nd.

Haschel, could you explain for me again why you think you not claiming is worth giving scum a free NK on you?

Spoiler: the chart

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2	Location 3
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms	N/A
Blitzo	2	Electrical	???	N/A
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
TheGoldenParadox	2	Security	Security/L2	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Storage	Security	N/A
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
DrippingGoofball	2	Electrical	Location 2	N/A
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin	N/A
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A	N/A
OutWorldER	1	Cafeteria	N/A	N/A
Taly	2	Navigation	Admin	N/A
SirCakez	2	Reactor	Comms	N/A
Akarin	1	Cafeteria	Cafeteria	N/A
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria	N/A
Bell	2	Navigation	Security	N/A

[MURDERCAT]

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS WITH A REPLACE BUT IT WAS ALREADY F'D BEFORE YOU CAME IN

[MURDERCAT]

Hmph, is murdercat scum too?

WHY BECAUSE OF AKARIN?

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I'M NOT DEFENDING BELL, YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT IS STRICTLY UNTRUE

WHAT IS THE OTHER THING?

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What did I say that was strictly untrue?

YOU SAID WE HAD NO INFO TO GO OFF OF TO GUESS SCUM POWER.
BUT THE THEME HAS VERY CLEAR THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR SCUM POWER. ROOM DENIAL IS ONE OF THEM (CLOSING DOORS).

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Bell just happens to speculate the one that shows and just happens to misrep me (which you ignore).

I AM IGNORING THE MISREP THING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DECIDED HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT YET
BUT THERE ARE ONLY 3 THINGS I CAN THINK OF THAT SCUM COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ACCESS TO: VENTS, DOORS, AND SABOTAGES
IF LIGHTS HAD GONE OUT WOULD I BE SCUM FOR IT?

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Double take,
Murdercate hase note been mode killede, yes?

ITS MEMES

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No because you didn't suggest the lights would go out, use it to shade another player in the game, and a misrep at that.

OK I WILL READ BELL AGAIN

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What drove you to name the rooms you did here?

THEY WERE PROBABLY EITHER THE FIRST ON THE LIST OR THE ONES I REMEMBERED OR SOME COMBO OF THOSE TWO.

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So my sense is his reads get better as the game goes on. There's also haunted village as a game we played but idk his progression there, I just recall he got soulread by infinity

I HELPED DRIVE THE WIN WITH SETUP SPEC IN ENDGAME

I AM DEFINITELY NOT ONE OF THOSE PLAYERS THAT SOUL READS PEOPLE AND FLIPS SCUM ON DAY 1

I FIND TOWNIES AND ELIMINATE POSSIBILITIES UNTIL THERE'S LIMITED OPTIONS, THEN I WORK FROM THERE OFF ASSOCIATIONS, VCA, AND, IF RELEVANT, MECH TO SOLVE THE GAME

SO WHEN I SAY I WAS HAPPY WITH 4/5 TOWN READS AFTER DAY 1 I MEANT IT. I THINK WE ARE IN AN OK SPOT, BUT WE DO NEED TO START FLIPPING NOW.

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i don't think it's outside the realms of possibility that the solve is:

Alisae-Titus-Bell-Gamma

but I think Maestro (Alisae) is a lock for elim today, and then potentially look at Gamma tomorrow as a partner. In a way this feels more like Gamma's towngame, but I don't like him trying to take the heat off Alisae like he has, I think Bell is independently scummy and I've covered my view on Titus ad nauseum yesterday.

ALI IS TOWN STILL

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oh I'd also throw Pooky in there. Actually feel slightly better about DGB, but Pooky is well within his scum-range here. Too peripheral.

POOKY DID THE SAME THING IN DEATH CURSE, ID RATHER NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN

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I'm kind of waiting for someone to nod their head at me or just tell me I'm crazy.

NODS

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Murdercat is now my favorite wagon out of the EoD ones.

HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE FROM YOUR POV, WHERE I COULD HAVE PUSHED FOR YOUR END OF DAY ELIM AND DIDNT?

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I'M NOT PUTTING OFF ANYTHING, ITS BEEN LIKE 16 HOURS AND I WAS ASLEEP FOR MOST OF THEM

[MURDERCAT]

Bell was probably my weakest townread D1. But town because I liked that he approached Murder's self-meta in good faith when Murder was being wagoned.

TITUS SAYS I'M SCUM WITH BELL THOUGH

[MURDERCAT]

I do notice that MC/Bell have a very similar disposition to each other D1. "X looks different than in Game Y but not enough to worry me." 1623 1691
Perhaps they can elaborate there.

BELL CAUGHT SCUM D1 IN DEATH CURSE SO IT WAS DIFFERENT

ELSEWHERE I SAID THAT HE WAS DOING HIS NORMAL IM TOWN THING (IN RESPONSE TO CAKE)

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WHO IS SCUM BELL

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Bell, sort other slots.
Titus, sort other slots.

You're just going "no u" at each other at this point.

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I WOULD LIKE TITUS TO REVEAL WHAT I DID THAT SHE WAS EXPECTING

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VOTE: TGP

I KINDA LIKED WHERE THIS WAS GOING YESTERDAY

[MURDERCAT]

YOU ARE GREAT TALY I AM TIRED BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING ALL THIS

[MURDERCAT]

I expected scum to push on Haschel. Both you and MC did.

WHERE

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COMMS IS MY TASK AFTER TODAY

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I DOUBT WE CAN DO TWO TASKS AT ONCE, THAT SEEMS DUMB

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LMAO I KNEW IT

I WAS QUOTING THE CHART

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Hi ego hello etc. I've been loosely skimming thread since I offered to replace before gamestart, from what I gather scum somehow fucked with the big planned post for last Night and shut ppl out of a room? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I didn't catch the massclaim, can someone link so I can find and just check around that part first?

N1 Plan Final

Cafeteria

Akarin
Outworlder
Pooky

Electrical

Titus
Battle Mage
DGB
Blitzo

Security

TGP
Bell
Flea

Admin

Alisae
Taly
A Very Sad Gamma

Reactor

Cakez
Murdercat

1 Location Sabotage: Titus and Gamma should do it

2 Location Sabotage: Titus and Gamma should go to the 1st one, and Taly and Alisae should go to the 2nd one.

(Assuming one of the locations isn't already occupied, in which case it's just a 1 Location Sabotage.

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If Dead Titus:

1 Location Sabotage: Cakez & Murdercat

2 Location Sabotage: Cakez & Murdercat take 1, Alisae/Taly/Gamma take the 2nd.

Haschel, could you explain for me again why you think you not claiming is worth giving scum a free NK on you?

Spoiler: the chart

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2	Location 3
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms	N/A
Blitzo	2	Electrical	???	N/A
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
TheGoldenParadox	2	Security	Security/L2	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Storage	Security	N/A
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
DrippingGoofball	2	Electrical	Location 2	N/A
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin	N/A
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A	N/A
OutWorldER	1	Cafeteria	N/A	N/A
Taly	2	Navigation	Admin	N/A
SirCakez	2	Reactor	Comms	N/A
Akarin	1	Cafeteria	Cafeteria	N/A
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria	N/A
Bell	2	Navigation	Security	N/A

[MURDERCAT]

LMAO I KNEW IT

I WAS QUOTING THE CHART

LOL TITUS IS TOTALLY IGNORING THAT THE ONLY REASON SHE IS SCUM READING ME IS COMPLETELY WRONG

[MURDERCAT]

LMAO I KNEW IT

I WAS QUOTING THE CHART

LOL TITUS IS TOTALLY IGNORING THAT THE ONLY REASON SHE IS SCUM READING ME IS COMPLETELY WRONG

HELLO???

VOTE: TITUS

[MURDERCAT]

CAN YOU ADMIT THAT A MAJOR REASON YOU ARE SRING ME WAS COMPLETELY WRONG

[MURDERCAT]

GRRR

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HONESTLY I WAS JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG AND I WAS GOING TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER VOTING BELL

BUT DOUBLING DOWN WHEN YOUR CENTRAL THESIS IS WRONG DOES NOT GIVE ME CONFIDENCE THAT YOU ARE GENUINELY SOLVING ANYTHING

[MURDERCAT]

BECAUSE YOU AREN'T RECONSIDERING AFTER REALIZING I DIDN'T DO THE THING YOU SAID I DID

I WOULD BE VOTING BELL BECAUSE OF TALY NOT YOU

[MURDERCAT]

LOL WHY SHOULD I INTERACT WITH YOU AFTER YOU SCUM READ ME, I PROVED YOU WRONG, AND YOU STUCK WITH IT?

OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING I SAY TO YOU WON'T CHANGE YOUR READ

I AM VOTING YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE ACTING SCUMMY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BELL ANYMORE

[MURDERCAT]

UNVOTE:

STILL DUMB

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VOTE: Bell

rereading, sheeping titus's case on him plus he fits with the things I find murder scummy for. i can compromise on this.

VOTE: BELL

WOW THATS BAD

CAN WE CHILL OUT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN FOR TONIGHT

[MURDERCAT]

Someone remind me where Reck was last night

WITH ME AND CAKE IN REACTOR

[MURDERCAT]

I feel safe going with the Cat to Comms tonight

SAME

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I really dislike the Reck "hammer" it just feels way too similar to scum hammers I've seen recently

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A SCUM QUICKHAMMER ATTEMPT ON SCUM BUT IVE GENERALLY FELT OK ABOUT RECK AND DOES HE REALLY DO THAT THING IN REACTOR AS SCUM?

SEEMS LIKE MAYBE HE JUST KNEW IT WASN'T A HAMMER AND CAN'T EASILY SAY THAT

[MURDERCAT]

Liberty Taco

I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT TO CHANGING THE QUOTES
THAT REALLY PUT A SMILE ON MY FACE JUST NOW

[MURDERCAT]

HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHO IS TAKING THE TASK?
SORRY IF I MISSED THAT

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ALSO JUST FYI THAT I AM GOING V/LA AS I'VE BEEN VERY BURNT OUT RECENTLY WITH WORK
HOPEFULLY WILL BE BACK TO NORMAL SOON

V/LA UNTIL 12/17

[MURDERCAT]

LOL I GUESS THAT SETTLES THAT

WHO TOOK IT?

PEDIT LOL

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STILL TRING RECK I THINK

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I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CASE I HAVE A POE. I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK TITUS IS SCUM, I WAS JUST ANNOYED. I DID KINDA PLAY IT UP A BIT TO GET A REACTION, THOUGH I'M NOT SURE I ACTUALLY GOT ANYTHING OUT THE REACTION..

BLITZO
THEGOLDENPARADOX
FLEA THE MAGICIAN
HASCHEL CEDRICSON
DRIPPINGGOOFBALL
BATTLE MAGE
GAMMA EMERALD
TITUS
BELL

LOOKING AT THIS LIST I'M NOT SURE ABOUT TITUS AND HC, BUT THE FACT THEY DIDN'T KILL EACH OTHER MEANS THEY ARE PROBABLY MORE LIKELY TO BE TOWN. SAME WITH GAMMA AND BM PLUS I KINDA FEEL OK WITH BOTH OF THEM. SO THAT LEADS ME HERE:

BLITZO
THEGOLDENPARADOX
FLEA THE MAGICIAN
DRIPPINGGOOFBALL
BELL

I DOUBT ALL THE SCUM ARE IN THIS LIST, BUT I BET THERE'S AT LEAST 2 IF NOT 3.

THE TGP VOTE IS ALL GUT, I DON'T HAVE A CASE OR ANYTHING. THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY THAT HC AND TITUS ARE SCUM TOGETHER (MUCH LESS LIKELY BM/GAMMA I THINK) WHICH THROWS THIS LIST OFF, BUT I'M HAPPY ENOUGH WITH IT FOR NOW.

OF THIS LIST I THINK THAT TGP AND FLEA BOTH HAVE HIGH SCUM EQUITY. I PROBABLY FEEL BLITZO IS MOST TOWN IN THE LIST. BUT LIKE I SAID, ALL GUT.

[MURDERCAT]

OH DID I MISREAD SOMETHING?
I THOUGHT THAT BM AND GAMMA WERE ALONE TOGETHER?

[MURDERCAT]

MMK WELL I'M STILL OK WITH BOTH OF YOU I THINK BUT THAT POINT OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T APPLY THEN.

[MURDERCAT]

You guys realize that scum instadies if they try that with the current plan, right?

Titus and HC both had outs though because we wouldn't have known where they went
(HC for not claiming and Titus for being kicked)

It's definitely still possible one or more is scum but I think Occam's Razor says it makes them more likely to be town.

[MURDERCAT]

OH FUCK

[MURDERCAT]

I HIT SUBMIT BY MISTAKE SHIT

[MURDERCAT]

TASKS

[MURDERCAT]

MC you still have caps task?

Nope lol

[MURDERCAT]

Murder/Cakez/TGP/Reck, I need all of you to confirm where you went last night. Be honest, or I will tunnel you.

Cake, me went to comms.
No one else spoke.

[MURDERCAT]

I'll have more later but first of all, Murdercat, I want to hear from you who you think is most likely to be partners with Bell and why.

here, gunna read

[MURDERCAT]

regardless Bell, I still suss Flea, TGP

hard PR, sorry. Short posts, less to check. Words I can't say.

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler: Bell votes

VOTE: titus
*hugs*

This wagon feels gross now. /:

UNVOTE:

Okay, we're eliminating people today then.

VOTE: SirCakez

OMGUS.

VOTE: Tituse

cake, Titus - town

[MURDERCAT]

Still town to me - reck, Maestro, Taly, Pooky

[MURDERCAT]

outworld town too

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damn VOTE: bell

VOTE: Bell

scary votes

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1285: What's the difference between DGB's behavior and TGP's? Eh, you're not wrong that the noise to content ratio is a little jagy from Flea. It's weird, cause I just got out of a game with Flea and fae seemed like low simmering scum in that game but ended up being town. But I like their cheerier play here and they are contenting.

Flea defense?

Aw but I was waiting for Bell to comment on it

I should get half credit at least

Plz, don't meta manipulate me by reminding me that you did that in dc.

Lol Bell please

Bell interacted more with town I think.

TGP: barely posted in'e PTe, dide explain thate he usuallye onlye focuses downe on'e one player ore soe. Ite seems like he hase the same restriction ase Reck. He's one ofe those hope he nailse scume types ande does ite ine ae townie waye soe ye don'te have toe thinke aboute ite. Bute withoute the rep toe backe ite upe. Don'te knowe.

Flea: Ae noe vowel taske seems very hardcore ande they're stille postinge throughe ite, thoughe Ie have noe ideae whate they're sayinge halfe the time. Mye read keeps jumpinge upe ande downe withe every 5the poste. leane towne. Sector chate wasn'te particularley productive gave ae scum read ande two town reads outside a list of people we shared. Pushed at TGPe fore note responding toe request fore reads.

HCe: Based on'e hise vote, Ie really shoulde have looked ate him more closely. Hise vote reeks ofe opportunisme. /:e Lean scum.

Talye: Town ore very goode scume. please isoe them.

Reck: Ie dunnoe. Lean difficulte. Funnilye enough he's actuallye being more helpful withe hise chate restriction ande seems toe be dynamicallye responding toe the game some withe ane updated reads liste aftere ae recente one.

Blitzoe: Whoe? LSe.

Maestro: Legacy TRe read. dide note get replace oute frome anye pove. LTe.

After typinge thisw oute ande getting like 5e myocardiale infarctionse aftere reading mye postse fore errors I'me startinge toe wonder Ife eye shoulde even bother withe thise taske.

+ town for HC
Flea more scary

Mostly useless iso.
Feel better about TGP. Feel worse about Flea.

VOTE: Flea

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weren't u freaking out ab me yesterday

don't think so?

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Caps make things seem dramatic, said I TR'd you still.

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My first task completed successfully, by the way.

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T/S, dont know quite who scum tho

VOTE: Haschel
VOTE: Flea

Willing to sheep still, but leaning Flea I think.
Bell was happy to claim tasks.

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Wanna look through VCs later.

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@MC SirCakez also thinks this points to Blitzo scum

yeah, is weird

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Flea, current solve?

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do your task

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Why am I scum now? I'm town.

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Not ready to 1v1

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your recent solve posts feel a little hollow >:

Hard PR, but ok, will do more

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Can't say many small words

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Annoying, checking everything I can't say

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not me

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Spoiler:

Other tham Hershel being a professional grump is there a reason for the votes on him

Hise vote reeks ofe opportunisme.

Oh man, you definitely have to elaborate on this. Preferably in the same post you finally address my goddamn questions.

Sorry, Two Sheds; I did look through Liberty Taco's iso before night end but didn't have a chance to post there. Honestly it was very difficult to get a bead on those posts; there weren't a ton of places to get a foothold and my brain would kind of glaze over trying to get a read. The few reads he does give were weak or unsourced, and the reaction to your wagon is bad.

This wagon feels gross now. /:

UNVOTE:

Later I ask

Hey all, getting caught up now. I see from the votecount people are no longer on Two Sheds. Is that because people no longer think she's scum or are the other two wagons significantly better?

Obvs I'm about to draw my own conclusion but it'd be cool to have an answer to that by the time I get caught up.

She went V/LA so the pressure felt pretty useless and I'm not super confident she's scum so I moved my vote.

Note the two different reasonings for the vote switch.
Now, last night you said you were worried he would make a push on you today and I told you I felt your reasoning was a stretch. So yeah, it was definitely a surprise to see Liberty Taco open the day with an unprompted attack on you. This babysitter thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me and honestly I'm not particularly interested in learning more about it, but the timing is all wrong based on the order of posts and the length of time between all the parts of that. I don't know if Liberty Taco is making things up or if this is some elaborate bus thing, but either way Liberty Taco is likely scum.

That's not to mention he's accused my vote of being opportunistic (and doubled down when asked to elaborate) when

I literally have not voted today

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I'm perfectly willing to vote Liberty Taco right now, but I haven't read the last few pages and should probably hold off on that. Tomorrow I want to take a look at that paradigm guy and probably Red Hot Chili Wizard; I want to see how they are reacting to the Liberty Taco wagon.

ok, seen enough for suss, good wagon comp.

VOTE: Haschel Cedricson

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Doesn't clear, just helps

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what? why would attacking me get you NKed?

Like gamma did

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why would scum NK Gamma for attacking me though? doesn't make sense, surely better to keep him alive to attack me.

If you are scum
Don't be dense

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thegoldenparadox and maestro have been prodded

Thegoldenparadox has requested replacement and I am currently searching

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you think I NKed Gamma because he attacked me? eh, well I don't have a rebuttal to that, other than - I didn't.

Don't be dense

I don't but that was the implication

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i thought if you didn't post for 48 hours you were forcibly replaced?

prod first

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VOTE: HC

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I have nowhere to go, want to be with Cakez

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Why? There's been no extra kills

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lol thanks pooky

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Wow, Murdercat just quotes a bunch of my posts and votes for me with no analysis except "seen enough for suss". Murdercat, what specifically do you object to in those posts you quoted in #3430?

3430

Bell defends, your aggressiveness feels fake, willing to vote Bell but delaying.

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broccoli is good though

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Where we going cake?

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Same

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UNVOTE:

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Windows TMI?

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VOTE: Flea

I'm down

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Congrats

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ellaborate

I could see your defense coming from scum to wk townie.
Maybe was too strong though.

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Scum slip? Not 100% sold
{HC, Flea} - one scum
Didn't like Flea before, HC seems town
Ok with either order tbh but like Flea first more

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VOTE: Goofball

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:/

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speedwagon goofball?

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Stay cafe if nowhere to go

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sounds good

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backup?

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I think, is known brass

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Taly's task I mean

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Thanks Fluffy Doggy !
VOTE: Murdercat

Spoiler: Current Chart

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2	Location 3
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms	N/A
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
TheGoldenParadox	2	Security	Security/L2	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Storage	Security	N/A
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
DrippingGoofball	2	Electrical	Location 2	N/A
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin	N/A
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A	N/A
OutWorldER	2	Cafeteria	N/A	N/A
Taly	2	Navigation	Admin	N/A
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2	N/A
Akarin	1	Cafeteria	Cafeteria	N/A
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria	N/A
Bell	2	Navigation	Security	N/A

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blame the toucan

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Don't know where to go? Cafe

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For everyone else

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Can you share the flair?

I knew that avatar was too scary

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flavor*

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Also I am done with tasks

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Do you have a crumb?

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mmk

I mean I'm town reading you so whatever let's just kill blitzo

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I'm just trying to determine if there is any chance of a fake guilty but like I said I was TRing you coming into today anyway

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I guess if you were going to do that you would claim cop and not no kill so whatever forget that lol

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I was RBed N1 lol
Feel free to do it again if you want but I am clearly town
Look at how Bell and Flea both shaded me

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Where are you going tonight BM?

Can people claim remaining tasks?

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Cakez and reck are town

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Titus also town for sure

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Did you claim your target in admin at the same time you entered it or was it entered during choice phase?

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We should probably unvote to avoid hammer right

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Why does OER fakeclaim guilty here?

specifically with a no kill

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Flea the Magician was an Imposter Airlock Operator

Do we know what this actually does?

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Blitzo is 100% the elim, if it's a fake guilty we should still take it no?

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I take issue with "probably"

I'll go to weapons unless there is a reason for me to go anywhere else

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That's what I'm wondering, we might be free to fully plan

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Cakez/Reck, woops.

*Pooky/me/Reck/SirCakez as rb target possibilities.

I don't think OutworldER roleblocked Reck--why would OutworldER roleblock the player he was in a PT with? (From what I gather, OutworldER was with Reck last night? Was there anyone else there with them?)

So Pooky/me/SirCakez most likely. And given the most suspicious, it'd be Pooky/me probably.

If OutWorldER blocked Pooky, then Pooky would be clear and I'd be pretty damn sure the scum was MURDERCAT.

So given the chance Pooky might be cleared, I feel like I should do this:
VOTE: MURDERCAT

Have you read the game? I'm town and it's pretty clear

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Actually.
VOTE: SirCakez
I did a control-f search of murdercat's iso for flea and SirCakez's iso for Flea.

Cakez looks like distancing but not bussing until Haschel's case pointed out Flea's "scumslips"--a point where scum would be likely to agree to it being a scumslip and bus.
I have a theory to check on SirCakez's iso tho but I legit think he may be the last one right now.

Also a bad vote

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ok but conversely if I had actually known Bell was scum in this game, I probably wouldn't buy his AtE act in the FL v Pooky right?

Lol exactly I TRd him there too

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I'm crew member (vt)
I had comms and reactor and tasks which required me to talk in all caps and avoid using a few words: a, in, ... Some others too lazy to look

Popcorn DGB

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I have no tasks left

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Are you proud of me Pooky? I don't think I SR'd you once this game

If we are going to win then regardless then I think we should go for the perfect win???
It is risky though

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aww

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All in good time, waiting for a DGB claim

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your list sounds trolly af rn lol

What if I actually did it this time though