Toriel's Patience (end)

[Taly]

Don't trust the plist that much with close to elim range yes

[Taly]

I'm a potato with a beak attached

[Taly]

I kind of want to go back on

Meuh

but that didn't go anywhere

Pedit

Taly, do you think beeboy is scum?

Not concretely

[Taly]

VOTE: beeboy

Fine

[Taly]

I'm just weary of lol hammers but that might be unfounded in this type of plist

[Taly]

I just don't scumread

Sakura, Dunn

I once caught her as scum based on tone immediately and I don't get it here in the slightest

ngl i thought this was a solid defense

[Taly]

merlyn

i missed why you think

sakura

is scum?

[Taly]

can you give quote

sakura

?

pedit
ah

viewtopic.php?t=88188

[Taly]

[Taly]

i mean, i see a town perception to what you said, so i dont think its unreasonable, but i do wonder why

dann

viewed it in that context, what is your read progression on him?

[Taly]

I don't think the vote is that deep. I was intentionally trying to get votes moving when

Sakura

made hers. My benefit of the doubt is that any vote would've been better than none.

Thanks Dunn, kinda a lot more boring then what I expected.

What did you expect?

[Taly]

My analysis and opinion is that your initial dive into the game doesn't align with your

Meuh

vote and I mentioned in an ISO a few questions about how curious your wording of some slots are, vague as they were.

[Taly]

My analysis and opinion is that your initial dive into the game doesn't align with your

Meuh

vote and I mentioned in an ISO a few questions about how curious your wording of some slots are, vague as they were.

I mean I was talking to implosion and not you when I asked that question anyway, I didn’t see a particular reason to engage you on it since I kind of have an idea as to how this convo would go already. I was confused on how Implosion could end up voting me after I read there catch up but I missed the post on sheeping mandate.

I don’t particularly agree with your vote though if you want me to talk about it since your engaging my implosion concern. I wasn’t leading into voting anyone else and I don’t think I implied I thought Meuh was town anywhere. I think this is more of an issue with how you are reading my posts then anything on my part. The only part to talk about is the confidence bit you mentioned but it’s kinda just how I like to talk until later in the game where I have more info. I struggle a lot to post confidently when games don’t really have content to do that with. To skip some motions when I refer to content I don’t mean pages, posts, cases or emotions, I mostly mean shifting votes on places that are under pressure and flips which can’t come this early in a game no matter how many pages you have.

how did you expect this convo to go?

[Taly]

My analysis and opinion is that your initial dive into the game doesn't align with your

Meuh

vote and I mentioned in an ISO a few questions about how curious your wording of some slots are, vague as they were.

I mean I was talking to implosion and not you when I asked that question anyway, I didn’t see a particular reason to engage you on it since I kind of have an idea as to how this convo would go already. I was confused on how Implosion could end up voting me after I read there catch up but I missed the post on sheeping mandate.

I don’t particularly agree with your vote though if you want me to talk about it since your engaging my implosion concern. I wasn’t leading into voting anyone else and I don’t think I implied I thought Meuh was town anywhere. I think this is more of an issue with how you are reading my posts then anything on my part. The only part to talk about is the confidence bit you mentioned but it’s kinda just how I like to talk until later in the game where I have more info. I struggle a lot to post confidently when games don’t really have content to do that with. To skip some motions when I refer to content I don’t mean pages, posts, cases or emotions, I mostly mean shifting votes on places that are under pressure and flips which can’t come this early in a game no matter how many pages you have.

how did you expect this convo to go?

Tbh this conversation is really weird to me, I don't know what you are getting at since all my responses seem not very alignment indicative.
Implosion didn't speak to me as far as I was aware so I didn't have a specific expectation on why he voted me. I had genuine curiosity about it so I could figure out his alignment.

Like did you want me to have an expectation and if so what would it be?

I agree, your responses don't feel AI and I was wondering if the level of awareness you had was.

Dunn

how do you feel about

beeboy

in the last 2 pages?

[Taly]

I agree, your responses don't feel AI and I was wondering if the level of awareness you had was.

I feel as though this is more just the fault of the questions being asked? There isn't really room to reply in any other way, unless you are trying to just poke me to see if I slip up.

nah, my brain is just not moving and i should probably take my VLA tbh

[Taly]

plus its my birfday when i wake up

[Taly]

skimmed beeboy's iso. no thoughts, head empty.

It's why I can't justify unvoting

[Taly]

I took another look at Meuh, I don't think she is mafia

Please enlighten me because I keep reading and seeing mafia

[Taly]

Shirou to me is very obvious town btw.

Is it confbiased to think this could be informed?

[Taly]

Everyone is wordy holy shit

[Taly]

I like beeboy. The push on him doesn't feel right. It might be town that's just happy to put there vote somewhere

I don't agree with

Sakura

or

Mandate

pushes.

How do you feel about

Meuh

?

[Taly]

Thank you!

[Taly]

Lmao it does help the pocket but I don't read your posts and see much more than what could be faked

[Taly]

If not

beeboy/meuh

, then who?

[Taly]

I mean, I'm starting to feel better about limming Merlyn

I'm just too lazy to do the necessary work to solve her so I tread water instead

Maybe try cause I don't scumread her

[Taly]

Why do I get the scumreads nobody agrees with

[Taly]

I'm asking for a reason to the scumread

[Taly]

alisae

do you have commentary on any of the thread atm? you seem quiet

[Taly]

There's a lot that's not just that though

The way she interacted with me felt like probing in a certain way that according to what I remember of my experiences is nearly always scum

im not very convinced, do you have a game to link?

[Taly]

alisae

do you have commentary on any of the thread atm? you seem quiet

better yet, is this town-

beeboy

?

[Taly]

i mean, i made my argument but i can see how others parrot that scumread

ill reread under your lens

and k @

alisae

[Taly]

i guess i want more content at the level of the posts you sent

dunn

, so far it has been mainly directed about

sakura

and i, that depth of thought in reading.

i scumread it partially from projection, as id do that as scum, cherrypicking reads i can inflate with sensible thought. even if that person is scumreading me, partial as a way to disarm them.

[Taly]

I got some nice clothes and I'm eating out at a restaurant I like :3 and texting frandz

[Taly]

Wow I'm oddly functional

I feel better after 1 dose of seroquel than I did 2 whole weeks on abilify and lamictal

[Taly]

What do you find important about

BE's

read on you

Sakura

?

[Taly]

Yay I'm loved **twerks, throws ass at the playerlist**

[Taly]

That's what I wonder with half the reads on me but I'm going to give

BE

benefit of the doubt until they're caught up

[Taly]

I mean,

BE

didn't include me in the read just clarifying lol

[Taly]

Curious, you still Sr me?

[Taly]

Also I get the impression you have a pretty developed opinion of the thread but aren't inclined to share

[Taly]

yay more cakes

and dissociation woooooo

my headmates and i are having a field day

and no we're not a hydra in the game, just a hydra (plural system with OSDD1-B in real life)

im really nonchalant with this type of info atp

[Taly]

I think that's a pretty fair reply yeah

[Taly]

Ari

is town to me

[Taly]

I think the gripes with her are personality that isn't exclusive to scum and unless I'm way off base they're doing something similar to

Dann

with relationship to the thread but in a more consistent fashion.

[Taly]

Oh sorry I didn't use exclusively "she/her"

[Taly]

Does anyone have a good radar for reading

Shirou

and want to share? I townread them but I don't know how ironclad it is. It's mainly their heightened response to me the other day.

[Taly]

My vote on

beeboy

feels stale but I'm wondering about an alternative that my townreads actually agree with.

[Taly]

I like beeboy. The push on him doesn't feel right. It might be town that's just happy to put there vote somewhere

I don't agree with

Sakura

or

Mandate

pushes.

How do you feel about

Meuh

?

Do you think they were scum driven?

I feel iffy. I feel like I am actually good at reading town Meuh. She's kind of spicy with takes but tends to be right. So I'm kind of waiting for that to happen and if it doesn't then I'll know

When would such a time come or should come?

[Taly]

None of the

Sakura, Merlyn, Shirou

votes interest me. Which is of note since I only confidently townread 1, maybe 2.

Anyone got a code for dealing with D1's with a lack of overtly scummy slots?

[Taly]

I also find some of the content hard to get into. Wallposts are an eyesore and waste of brain space for me often.

[Taly]

I want people to engage more with me directly.

[Taly]

That's a lot of faith into someone who could be scum by your logic,

Ari

[Taly]

I have a lot of weird and strange thoughts and they're often wrong but they're funny to me so I hope you appreciate them

Do I know you by another name?

[Taly]

What about Meuh?

[Taly]

Read?

[Taly]

And beeboy too

[Taly]

fair noted

[Taly]

meh, it just usually helps to get extra perspective from people i consider to be the same alignment, it helps cohesion and leads to a consensus town needs for an elimination people are confident in.

im not asking my townreads for permission to vote, but it would be helpful if they shared a similar perspective on something im semi-confident in

[Taly]

i kind of want to hyper vote and go from there

[Taly]

truthfully id be scumhunting more if my brain werent still fuzzy and i werent a bit fatigued

[Taly]

what reservations do you have with my slot

implo

?

[Taly]

and would you say it is accurate your recent activity is due to the wagon formation?

[Taly]

Beeboy/me towncore so real

Yeah that’s kind of my main issue there too, I just don’t buy Beeboy’s overall perspective as being one a townie truly believes in, but I can see scum make it up

????

[Taly]

am i reading the same player as half this game like

VOTE: Meuh

[Taly]

is there humor that's genuinely being lost on me rn?

[Taly]

the unique actual scum i think you may have pushed so far is potentially either Ari or Key, and i think one of those at least is prob town

why

implosion

?

[Taly]

i dont feel like ive resolved my opinion of

beeboy

, i think its not impossible my grievances are playstyle, yet they dont possess very detailed reads and POV's

i find their thoughts about their wagon somewhat relatable, albeit likely incorrect as i townread several of the wagon

the dynamic of voting should change for the read to become more effective

[Taly]

I'm second-guessing my take on

Merlyn

simply because of the post-poning response on

Meuh

.

Like, am I getting tunnely here?

[Taly]

I'm surprised not many people confidently townread

Dunn

, it is one of the easiest reads for me.

pedit

i dont feel like ive resolved my opinion of

beeboy

, i think its not impossible my grievances are playstyle, yet they dont possess very detailed reads and POV's

i find their thoughts about their wagon somewhat relatable, albeit likely incorrect as i townread several of the wagon

the dynamic of voting should change for the read to become more effective

I liked beeboy's posting on page 53 - he felt a lot more confident than I've ever seen him post as mafia.

I got that too.

What about

Dunn

?

[Taly]

is it an accurate characterization that i am tunneling

meuh

,

ari

?

[Taly]

Time for your daily dose of sapphic energy

honorable mention: Casual by Chapell Roan - idk how the site feels about explicit music about sex, haha

[Taly]

wait that was a decent post from

meuh

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Taly]

to anyone who townreads me i need help in this game omg

[Taly]

really dont want to oversell that this is a competent plist and its showing but i am doing that i feel

and i am unsure where i should rethink my perceptions

[Taly]

I see your point but can you breakdown why some of these townreads are fakeable?

[Taly]

Ari

is it a misstep to assume

Ali

is scum based on a lack of commitment to the game?

[Taly]

Meuh

how do you feel about 1236? And

Merlyn

as a whole by extension?

[Taly]

I'm not used to being talked about that much in a game and it's really stroking my ego keep it up

- but real talk, I'll reread to give justice to

Meuh

here

[Taly]

I will say this stance feels a bit spontaneous given that it has posts from much earlier in the thread

Why point it out now

Meuh

?

[Taly]

UNVOTE:

[Taly]

Meuh

how do you feel about 1236? And

Merlyn

as a whole by extension?

Echoing this

[Taly]

Sakura

are we the same person:
Multiple Choice
A) Yes
B) Yes

[Taly]

Yeah

Key

feels town

[Taly]

VOTE: Alisae

[Taly]

I think the

Alisae's

low WIM could be scum indicative.

[Taly]

D1 is the perfect to be wagoning slots that -might- be scum and clearly the notion of going with a different philosophy is scum-sided given how many people have complained about a lack of scumreads.

[Taly]

If you agree, you should vote or convince me otherwise.

[Taly]

So does mine but I have thoughts countering that right now.

[Taly]

So does mine but I have thoughts countering that right now.

This was to Sakura

[Taly]

I just mindmeld too often with

Sakura

to think that it's NAI of scum.

[Taly]

I see a world where

Ari

is scum but my gut wants to trust that slot.

Their implied intentions toward me were very protown.

[Taly]

I realized that I'm not over my

Dann

suspicion.

It just feels like their interaction with the thread is convenient and I'm not seeing a tangible progression from them aside from when they have to acclimate to real time interactions.

[Taly]

Is Mandate-Taly-Keyleth-Sakura a mutual townbloc?

[Taly]

Mandate-Sakura-Keyleth-Dunn
Ari-BE
Meuh-beeboy-implosion-Shirou-Merlyn
Ali-Dann

Unsatisfying

[Taly]

Dunn

is far less clinical here than as scum.

[Taly]

I can't go into recent reasons and older games are somewhat dated.

But I am familiar with their scumgame on more than one occasion and feel

Dunn

isn't it.

Pedit

Robotic

[Taly]

Mandate-Sakura-Keyleth-Dunn
Ari-BE
Meuh-beeboy-implosion-Shirou-Merlyn
Ali-Dann

Unsatisfying

Mandate/Keyleth/Sakura

please ask questions, dissect this, and state aggreementa/disagreements

[Taly]

I see value in returning to the game a day later and letting thread stew.

[Taly]

Which I probably won't so out of intrigue unfortunately

[Taly]

UNVOTE:

I mainly casted my vote to see if anyone would bite but this list is familiar with

Ali

.

VOTE: Meuh

I keep coming back here. I don't think

implosion's

replies give off any big alarms upon reading them.

[Taly]

Who?

[Taly]

I'm a toucan, not a parrot *malds*

[Taly]

just finished danganronpa V2 and i am emotionally compromised

time for V3

[Taly]

See, I'm a fucking

Alisae

whisperer

[Taly]

>: but I don't want to mislim people

[Taly]

I'm going to fade into oblivion

[Taly]

Here's my hangup with the game

Aristeia

- I feel like her pushing me to scumhunt was +above rand town because of how authentic her gripe felt compared to people who were seemingly parroting townreads at the time.

beeboy

- I think a lot of their posts can be fakeable from a stronger scum POV but I do think some of their posting has conveyed a level of confidence that I don't think makes a lot of sense to come from scum who actually wants to spout the narrative their wagon is scum.

Alisae

- This is probably eir towngame from how eir WIM can be based on alignment but I can imagine a world where eir scum with players they didnt want to be scum with and are less motivated via that pathway.

Meuh

- Has moments of deep thought but I wonder about the progression as I feel it may come from a scum-aligned one. But I also find sincerity in some non-serious posting.

Lady Shirou

- I liked their emotional reaction to me because it felt sincere but as time has passed, I've considered the prospect that that might be a personality-tell rather than an AI one. Thus, investigating this slot seems best but I have no big idea on their stances even when reading their posts.

Brown Eyes

- I don't want to push this slot because they haven't even finished catching up with the game yet.

implosion

- I feel like some of their stances are convenient as mentioned yet I find too many moments where I think the responses to suspicion are reasonable or not scum afraid that they've been caught.

Dannflor

- They're VLA so it seems odd to push them but I still have suspect this slot from how on/off their relationship to the thread is and their activiy feels based around the discussion versus them having a coherent read progression from live interactions.

[Taly]

I keep hearing too many "I agree" or "this is difficult" or "lack of scumreads" -- which I've absolutely contributed to.

But I need to think of a defined PoE and go from there.

And tbh,

Key/Dunn/Sakura/Mandate/Ari

are just about the only people I'd not consider limming atp in D1. That's too small for my comfort and too many ISOs to dive off shaky feeling evidence at best.

[Taly]

Sakura

mimics my many towngames where I am a UTR and really do not think that is feigned or played up from the gamestate.

Mandate

is just hard to describe anything other than town from how idiosyncratic their perceptions and paranoia can be.

Key

has a depth and sequential ordering of thought to how they conceptualize the game that I feel like they'd have augmented now under pressure but haven't.

Dunn

is not like the several scum-games I know of him.

Ari

is the person who has singualrly worked with me the most via responding to my questions and prompts the most and has actively helped me solve the game at certain points.

[Taly]

If it's not

beeboy

,

implosion

, or

meuh

, I'm saying

Dann

.

And this group is actually... probably a good first ISO group because it's what I'd consider lower in my PoE to want to vote.

Adding

Shirou

would be a bit much so maybe break this into 2 groups.

[Taly]

VOTE: Dannflor

[Taly]

I don't have the time or energy to ISO though, so I need another real-time interaction approach.

Curious about you not mentioning Merlyn anywhere there

I literally forget they're in the game often, so they're in the PoE

[Taly]

Why is

Dann

town?

[Taly]

Merlyn

- Why withhold thoughts related to

implosion

case?

BE

- Do you think a page-by-page read is doable here, and if not, what is another way I can help you to catch-up?

meuh

- How do you feel about

Dann

? I want more than a "needs a second glance."

beeboy

- Why is the wagon enough to make you re-evaluate, when theoretically a bus could occur within your scumreads?

Shirou

- What are your reads at this point in time?

implosion

- How do you feel about

Meuh's

case on you? Is it AI in any major form or is it independent from the POV you already have on that slot?

[Taly]

What can town agree on

?

We should all be giving 3 names for a D1 PoE elimination.

[Taly]

give me pagetop

[Taly]

What can town agree on

?

We should all be giving 3 names for a D1 PoE elimination.

[Taly]

Dannflor
Arisetia
Alisae
Taly
Mandate
Sakura
Dunnstral
implosion
beeboy
Meuh
Lazy Shirou
Merlyn
Keyleth

Place your name next to someone if they're in your PoE

[Taly]

holy shit

[Taly]

this is why I meme instead

[Taly]

Dannflor
Arisetia
Alisae
Taly
Mandate
Sakura
Dunnstral
implosion
beeboy
Meuh
Lazy Shirou
Merlyn
Keyleth
Brown Eyes

Place your name next to someone if they're in your PoE

[Taly]

how do you describe your scumplay vs townplay

implosion

?

[Taly]

What do you need to resolve in order to vote confidently?

[Taly]

I feel like they cannot be SvS. Like yes,

implosion's

uncertainty in the wagon and

Meuh's

steadfast case against him without much prompt are typical red flags in a vaccuum, but I just don't see the point of this entire altercation if it was SvS. It's entirely unnecessary of them.

[Taly]

@Sakura

, yes ty

[Taly]

I like

implo's

replies to me so far FWIW

[Taly]

i want someone to ask me questions

[Taly]

i want someone to ask me questions

How much is 30x10-5+2x5

300-5+10

305

[Taly]

1511, please add to iit, your name on someone in your PoE

[Taly]

*dropkicks Mandate*

[Taly]

Taly uses *TWERK* on Mandate! It is super effective!

[Taly]

Taly uses *DEATHTUNNEL* on

Mandate

! K.O.!

[Taly]

But really no questions for me? It gets my brain going.

[Taly]

Yknow with a game this intense its good to shitpost

I'm doing fine. Finally got meds that don't fuck me up.

[Taly]

[Taly]

Merlyn - Why withhold thoughts related to implosion case?

Holy shit this is disingenuous.

I genuinely don't understand how this is.

[Taly]

I don't have the time or energy to ISO though, so I need another real-time interaction approach.

Curious about you not mentioning Merlyn anywhere there

I literally forget they're in the game often, so they're in the PoE

Why would you forget I'm in the game but not Alisae or BrownEyes?

We don't talk a lot so that's not so unbelieveable...

[Taly]

Merlyn - Why withhold thoughts related to implosion case?

Holy shit this is disingenuous.

I genuinely don't understand how this is.

Did I miss something?

You said it yourself that you wanted to let the situation on

implosion

percolate and I interpreted that as you having thoughts you didn't want to share.

To frame this as disingenuous on a player who's actively saying they want people to engage with them is very off-base.

[Taly]

my allergies are killing me right now I don't think I'm going to be able to read 60+ pages right now I'm really sorry but I definitely will have time tomorrow night or tuesday when I wake up to read!

Hope you feel better, allergies are ass

[Taly]

No worries Merlyn, I'll be on later

[Taly]

If majority is not achieved by deadline, I will privately contact the mafia to decide on behalf of the town.

Oh wow, i remember reading these, and this completely slipped by when i did.

Oh fuck. Didn't read that part.

[Taly]

No wagon has had traction from the level of disagreements about scumreeads though.

I'm suspicious of players who have a low PoE pool rn.

[Taly]

But we need a lower PoE pool hmm.

[Taly]

Merlyn

,

Key and Ari

are the only people we agree to townbin.

What do you think of

Dunn, Sakura, and Mandate

?

[Taly]

How does this look if;

Meuh/implosion

is TvS, or at least not SvS

Merlyn

is town.

Alisae

is town.

Shirou-BE-Dann-{Meuh/Implo)-beeboy-

[Taly]

Alisae off the idea that eir WIM is town telling.

Merlyn because reasons

[Taly]

I want to make a Junko enoshima alt but that's derailing from the topic

[Taly]

No wagon has had traction from the level of disagreements about scumreeads though.

I'm suspicious of players who have a low PoE pool rn.

I was kinda curious if the general lack of scumreads has been the scum's doing all along.

I think implosion qualifies with their recent list

Merlyn because reasons

I think "because reasons" isnt a good reason right now. I don't TR Merlyn, why do you.

Kind of an =rand guess. I mindmelded with them a bit earlier, a read I want to strengthen

[Taly]

Well do we want a PoE of 8 players

Mandate

?

[Taly]

Ugh I feel like I'm getting nowhere

[Taly]

Just say it

[Taly]

Dann I'm struggling

[Taly]

beeboy

do you have any commentary on being in my PoE virtually most of this game?

Something omg

[Taly]

*dies*

[Taly]

Perhaps (about the tmi) but I also doubt if my suspicion of you is warranted because that's not a thought I would have with other players in the same scenario.

I just don't think calling your wagon scum makes much sense.

[Taly]

If you go cooperate with the players who think that I'm scum ringleader and we Lim Implo and he flips town what have we gained exactly when those same players will call my read on him TMI and push on me next?

I think that if you think I'm town my view of the game is entirely incongruous with Merlyn's whether she is town or scum and there's not really any compromise that works, you need to decide whose version of the game you believe in more and go with that because Merlyn is guaranteed townreading at least one scum and flipping Implo town isn't going to fix town unity whatsoever. The path to town unity is through flipping scum which I believe is Meuh and just deciding that town unity doesn't require listening to all voices. Beeboy saying his wagon is all the scum doesn't really need a seat at the table even if we think he's town. I don't want to comment further on Merlyn. If you individually think that Implosion is scum in spite of my dislike of the wagon and don't like the Meuh wagon despite all I've said then go ahead and wagon Implosion but don't expect it to fix any of the issues with town being unable to coordinate because town is simply never going to be able to fully coordinate in this game and we just have to play for enough votes to hit scum and accept that we are leaving some players out.

But no I don't wanna ]:<
But maybe have to

[Taly]

Who do you think is the major proponent of that narrative shift on your stance

beeboy

?

[Taly]

I really don't think scum says the last 5 posts

beeboy

has.

[Taly]

I really don't think scum says the last 5 posts

beeboy

has.

I kinda disagree, why would I not clarify my post as scum in regards to what you said.
Especially given arguing against half the point would probably look bad for me from a reads standpoint.

The way you did it. You had the full reign to assert a misrep and gave it up. You seem nonchalant to how the thread conceptualized your stance. Questioning how to characterize the idea on your stance is another thing I don't really think scum would do intentionally. And you contesting this makes me wonder of you're trying to sort me or someone else. It doesn't give me the impression thay you're trying to please or even pacify, almost the opposite.

[Taly]

Why correct me when my read benefits you?

[Taly]

Well I'm a step closer. I feel good about townbinning you

beeboy

[Taly]

I live for

Ari's

praise, I did well on this page

[Taly]

My WIM has been boosted

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Uh, kill someone that's not in

Beeboy/Dunn/Mandate slot/Ari slot/Sakura/Keyleth

or counter this with grievances

Also give a PoE for D1 and we need to document a chain of it.

But also, damn. I'd find a GIF to liven things up but I'm not at a computer.

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Hey

ydrasse

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what i listen to when shit happens

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"taly i feel I've already explained and my read hasn't really changed much there. tonally there's some energy coming from taly that i can only define as like... presumptuous? it caught me off guard at first but i think overtime I've thought the energy is more likely to come from town."

((Dunno how to truncate quotes on phone))

Dann

I'm curious to hear you describe this tone in more detail

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Ou yeah you're right

I am pretty brazen and typically unself-conscious about it.

I TMI townies much more as scum and do not have the same grip, but take that as a grain of self-meta salt.

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You continue to give a charitable view on me when I haven't in return and I think it's AI and it's making me question my suspicion of you.

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Your reads on Ari and Dunn are mindmelds

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UNVOTE:

I like

Dann's

posts to

Alisae

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To the

Meuh

voters, curious about what they think of

implo

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Maybe tbh

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Oh dear, oh well

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Maybe tbh

why do you expect that

Because I get the impression you have the propensity to be aggressive when you have control and a well-reasoned push to project as scum. I could be entirely off base. But it's why if you'd have this much tolerance of me as scum.

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Why I wonder*

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I don't recall a scum game and I'm hypothesizing purely based off what behaviors I've observed of you here that I think could be scum, which I know is fallible logic

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What are you trying to gain from this line of questioning?

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I really want to continue and I'm thinking you are likely town after all but I took my med an hour ago and it has a sedative property

So I really need to sleep rn

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I keep waffling with

Dann/Implo

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Shirou

too

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Beeboy - (Aristeia/Random Nurse) - (Mandate/Ydrasse) - Dunnstral - Sakura Hana - Keyleth

6 townreads.

Dann

wondering if my read on him is fabricated is valid, I guess.

Don't know how to read

Alisae

at this point. I keep coming up with counter thoughts about their motivation and current positing.

I don't like

Implo's

posts regarding an expectation to be townread.

Interest to hear

Freedom

talk about

Implo/Meuh

in more detail because I don't see those two being SvS.

Kind of wondering if

BE

will be replaced, hope not.

Shirou

, I don't feel much has happened with that slot and while I don't actively suspect them I wonder if it was preliminary to townread them. Compared to other slots, I can take this one out of PoE but I need to sort more thoroughly.

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Tbh beeboy is in the game so I don’t have to actually do anything and I can just let him do everything and then take credit for it afterwards

why do you think he's town?

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How should I read you

Alisae

?

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D: work with me

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meuh

i need help on

ali

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meuh

who is in your PoE?

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I think this convo is worth townbinning

Beeboy

beeboy

do you have any commentary on being in my PoE virtually most of this game?

Something omg

I don't really care no, i think you are town

*dies*

Does my take bother you / feel like tmi?

I can pretend to be mad about it if it makes you enjoy the game more imo

Perhaps (about the tmi) but I also doubt if my suspicion of you is warranted because that's not a thought I would have with other players in the same scenario.

I just don't think calling your wagon scum makes much sense.

Perhaps (about the tmi) but I also doubt if my suspicion of you is warranted because that's not a thought I would have with other players in the same scenario.

I just don't think calling your wagon scum makes much sense.

fyi, i just happened to scum read people on my wagon and didn't think "why are you scum reading your wagon" was a reason to re-evaluate.
I agree with the statement it doesn't make sense to think my wagon is scum, but that isn't my thought process.

I feel like what I said got twisted at some point and I've just let it slide.

Who do you think is the major proponent of that narrative shift on your stance

beeboy

?

No idea, it feels like an accident so I am not calling it misrepresentation on purpose. Twisting my words is also probably not accurate either, I am just not sure what to call it.
Me and Dunn had a really long conversation about it, this is likely where you got that idea, but I don't think it was a malicious one on his part. Or at least I don't think the malicious part was us reaching the point where people thought I was scum reading my wagon for the reason , since Dunn has stated he wondered why I wouldn't re-eval not like the narrative you said.

I've thought about it already in all honesty. And there isn't a point in crying about since Dunn said my stance was reasonable with my perspective and the general act of not re-evaluating was still scummy for people.

I really don't think scum says the last 5 posts

beeboy

has.

I kinda disagree, why would I not clarify my post as scum in regards to what you said.
Especially given arguing against half the point would probably look bad for me from a reads standpoint.

I really don't think scum says the last 5 posts

beeboy

has.

I kinda disagree, why would I not clarify my post as scum in regards to what you said.
Especially given arguing against half the point would probably look bad for me from a reads standpoint.

The way you did it. You had the full reign to assert a misrep and gave it up. You seem nonchalant to how the thread conceptualized your stance. Questioning how to characterize the idea on your stance is another thing I don't really think scum would do intentionally. And you contesting this makes me wonder of you're trying to sort me or someone else. It doesn't give me the impression thay you're trying to please or even pacify, almost the opposite.

Why correct me when my read benefits you?

I am a bored butt

Also I value your explanation tbh.

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how do you feel about

freedom's

response to you/

implosion

?

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Part of 20-30 for me is Ari kicking my ass into gear and I start throwing votes at Shirou, Meuh, Dann, and eventually Beeboy

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Eh I was mainly trying to sink my feet anywhere

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i do like

RN's

intro, it felt raw in a way i dont see scum in a rep often.

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Dunn

please look at 1877 about my townread of

beeboy

I don't like Implo's posts regarding an expectation to be townread.

why

i think this type of posting comes from town a lot

Does it? Because my memory says no

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You could describe that in more detail because I'm unsure what you're seeing

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I like the way you're thinking here

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I'm very interested in your

Meuh

read

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*trying to have real-time interactions with dann and waffling 1000x as im waiting a response*

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I think I'd become more confident in my perception of the game if I took a day off.

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Hyperposting waffle is not the most productive version of

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