Open 901 - Normal Idea Mafia Redux - Postgame

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Drew are you drunk

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused at that lmfao

[JacksonVirgo]

This is the longest post you've written since Micro Normal 1094. You didn't roll scum did you

The difference I'm seeing is quite sudden, I'm not sure how I feel about it on its own but considering how well they responded to me about the clap/lucca townie trait stuff I feel that comes from town more than a wolf. Not that they're at all linked, I just don't know how to handle people trying to improve because I'm doing the same thing with how I play but it also isn't like smack sudden like this. Idk

[Argonauts]

I'm a changed woman. I'm actively trying to explain things in detail more if people want me to.

Hu just layed something upon the floor, I feel as if I should pick it up

Hmmm, makes me feel she has changed a bit

-Asclepius

What

Drew are you drunk

I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused at that lmfao

*breaks character*

Ffs.....I am picking up what you are putting down is a common phrase, one which I was stylizing a bit.

I am not even sure Hu fully understands what I am referring to, but I feel like she is being genuine in saying she is trying to change her style a bit

Maybe not AI, but not scummy

*back into character*

Oh dear, I had a premonition that someone that was a doctor such as me took over my posting.....I hope they were as kind

-Asclepius

[JacksonVirgo]

Yes but only when I have a strong read. But like I stated I'm not having any real reads this game.

It's only 7 pages though so I'm sure that will change. A lot of it was rvs filler stuff and I don't out too much stock in that

I'm a changed woman. I'm actively trying to explain things in detail more if people want me to.

Actually, I'm not sure what to make of this anymore the first two seem to link to "yeah this is how I usually play" when that would benefit her and then she linked to "I am trying to do something different" when

that

would benefit her. Am I looking too deeply too soon?

[JacksonVirgo]

Heading out, talk later o7

[Hu Tao]

Yes, and if anything I think it's a bit suspicious form you. I think that asking questions is fine but it seems like you are trying to find a reason to scumread me, rather than actually trying to scumhunt. I would say you're giving off a different vibe here than the game we won together previously as town so it could be a scum tell of yours.

[Hu Tao]

From*

I think I should start proofreading my messages before I send

[JacksonVirgo]

Yes, and if anything I think it's a bit suspicious form you. I think that asking questions is fine but it seems like you are trying to find a reason to scumread me, rather than actually trying to scumhunt. I would say you're giving off a different vibe here than the game we won together previously as town so it could be a scum tell of yours.

I am trying to find reasons to scum-read you, just as I am trying to find reasons to town-read you. That's how you solve people? I mean maybe if you're expecting my full focus to be in finding wolves rather than solving individual players then sure, I can see how you'd think my motivations are a little wack. I don't have nearly anything on most of the players yet so focusing on the ones I do and trying to solve them early is something useful. About the vibe, I'd like to feel I'm not a static entity in the void and I can change how I play based on a lot of different factors, also one game isn't a large sample size you should read more of my games if you wanna compare like that

[Hu Tao]

If I thought you were for sure scum for it, I'd vote you. Just giving my thoughts so far.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm just commenting on what you said lol

[Mucho Man Randy Passion]

HOW YOU SPOKE

How did I speak?

HONESTLY and with DETACHED CURIOSITY

[JacksonVirgo]

HONESTLY and with DETACHED CURIOSITY

Did you mean to say "Honesty" or did you take something out of that post/forget to put it in.

[JacksonVirgo]

What does detached curiosity mean? And is that your read on me now, or from back then too.

[JacksonVirgo]

I read that wrong

[JacksonVirgo]

You're saying I spoke honestly

[JacksonVirgo]

Fuck it

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm already confident you are meaning this as the logic you had town-read me for before when I was talking with Clap, I wanted to ask you to make sure so I don't unnecessarily tunnel on you but like I'm impatient and the feelings behind this is dying to get loose, so I'm not waiting any further to write this up. I will sit on my hands for a little bit after writing this and because of the amount of effort I'll be putting in with this I will probably post it anyway even if you do say it wasn't to do with back then.

Alright, so walking through it. In post 58 you said that you were ready to say that we're both Town as of post 53. I ask you what reasoning you had to label both of us as Town this early, you say that for me I was townie because I spoke honestly and with detached curiosity. Because of that read, you wanted us to both look elsewhere insinuating that this read was not a throwaway vibe read, it was a confident one that you wanted us to focus elsewhere for. So this read was to do with my content as of and prior to post 53.

Okie dokes, so taking your reasoning to heart, I looked back at every single one of my posts as of 53 and prior there is not a

single

post that had even an

ounce

of curiosity in it, at all. I was calling out Claps' logic for what I saw it as. If I take detached curiosity as I am seeing the thread with an open mind (aka not attached to any particular idea) then that isn't true either, I was straight up shading Clap for most of that and laughing at him for taking this further than it needed to be taken. On top of that, what could I even have remotely said in those four posts that would give you any sense of my honesty? The only part that I spoke about myself that could be attributed to that type of read is me talking about my voting patterns which has absolutely no alignment-tell within it at all, even if you thought it was it would be shallow at

best

.

All this logic would definitely apply to my current play completely and I believe that the initial read on both of us was faked for whatever reason you have needed to fake it. When I waited for you to answer why your read was the way it was, the game advanced further so my true play revealed itself which you could pin as speaking honestly and with detached curiosity. But since your initial read was fake, you don't have the recall about the read that you would have if it was genuine and thus you claim that you read on me as of post 58 was from my actions in the future.

And that don't make much no gosh darn sense, does it?

VOTE: Mucho Man Randy Passion

Look at my posts for yourself

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

Just curious - I've seen this from you before, is it a standard opening you use to avoid giving information?

Straight into shading someone, gotta love it

Just curious - I've seen this from you before, is it a standard opening you use to avoid giving information?

Straight into shading someone, gotta love it

Says the man throwing shade without a vote.

Since when did I need to place a vote to make a point

Since when did I need to place a vote to make a point

What's the motivation for a townie who sees supposedly scummy activity, and isn't currently voting anyone, to NOT vote the scummy activity? OTOH, scum could want to point out the activity in hope that another townie picks up on it and starts a push.

Also, your point on my question is wrong. Even if she answers yes, that just means she's playing to her overall scum meta (town would want towniness to come through in RVS). It says nothing about this particular game. It's literally designed to say nothing about this game. So, how would I push her on it, even with an affirmative answer?

All the question does is help me understand her for future games. That's why I prefaced it with "Just curious."

Oh you're serious, lmfao alright.
Even if I was serious enough to think you were >rand wolf from this, I don't care about a vote, I consider it a useless thing to flop around unless I really wanna do something with it or I'm making a joke. If a vote is what's needed to make a point, there's no point in doing anything but just voting people. We can use words, so I'll use words.

My point on your question isn't wrong, it's framed in a way that appears to be trying to make them look bad OR to make you look like you're doing something both of which are bad but I didn't even remotely care outside of poking fun until you're taking this way further than I expected it to.

[JacksonVirgo]

That post brought to you by this song I have been playing on loop since i found it in an older playlist

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Hu Town

[Black]

That post brought to you by this song I have been playing on loop since i found it in an older playlist

I love this song. Ronnie Radke makes good music

[JacksonVirgo]

I love this song. Ronnie Radke makes good music

I love him so much

[JacksonVirgo]

I even got some of my family crying over his music last time we met up and did a roadtrip which was crazy

[Argonauts]

I feel like at least 64% of the words in this thread have been posted by Jackson.

-Atalanta

[JacksonVirgo]

I feel like at least 64% of the words in this thread have been posted by Jackson.

-Atalanta

We love that