[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

[Holy]

Nightless Vanilla, 11 players

4 Mafia
7 Citizens
Day phases only

Nominate: Nightless Vanilla

I think we have a lot of good stuff in the archives. Simplicity is good.

True, we are in danger of overcomplicating things in order to do different setups. Seconded.

Thirded.

[Korts]

I can't think of a name for this setup that is both amusing and inoffensive Mafia

2 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Godfather/Treacherous Lover
2 Lover Cops
1 Lover Cop in love with Godfather
n Townies

Night Start

Nominate

Seconded.

[Thesp]

There's some good stuff in here, keep it up!

[ChannelDelibird]

Nominate

the following:

Pie C9

1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Roleblocker

1 Cop
1 Doctor
3 Townies

Reverse Mafia Nightless

(this is obviously borderline on how far open games can go, so opinions would be good)
4 Mafia
8 Townies
The extended rules for this game (ignore the night stuff, obviously) can be found here

Near-Vanilla

3 Mafia
1 Doctor
1 Jailkeeper
7 Townies

Clique Mafia

1 Mafia Mason Recruiter (talks separately to his recruits)
2 Mafia Goons

2 Mason Recruiters (recruit separately into two different masonries. They can recruit each other or the Mafia recruiter.)
5 Vanilla Townies
2 Unpopular Townies (cannot be recruited into masonries. Do not know they are unpopular)

[yellowbounder]

Jester Mafia

Jester Mafia is an Open Setup game which features a Day Start and consists of Townies, a single Mafia group, and one or more Jesters. This results in three teams with separate and mutually exclusive win conditions:

* The Townies win if and only if they lynch all Mafia and do not lynch a Jester. (The game ends when all Mafia have been lynched.)
* The Mafia win if and only if they equal or exceed the remaining non-Mafia in the game, or if nothing can prevent the same.
* The Jester wins if and only if they are lynched.

The first Open Role game featured 7 townies, 2 mafia and 1 jester.

Nominate Jester Mafia

Can't find the original post. This has been done before.

[shaft.ed]

Nominate Clique Mafia

Revamp of Bus Driver Mafia

3 Mafia Goons
2 Bus Drivers
1 Odd Night Doc
1 Even Night Doc
1 Watcher
4 Townies

[xyzzy]

Nominate

the following:

Pie C9

1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Roleblocker

1 Cop
1 Doctor
3 Townies

Actually CDB this setup is called "Pie E7".

[ChannelDelibird]

Actually CDB this setup is called "Pie E7".

*brandishes cane arthritically* Bah! In my day, we named setups once and left 'em be...

Revamp of Bus Driver Mafia

3 Mafia Goons
2 Bus Drivers
1 Odd Day Doc
1 Even Day Doc
1 Watcher
4 Townies

Seconded

, though the docs should probably be clarified to Odd Night and Even Night respectively.

[Xylthixlm]

Lyncher 7

1 Lyncher
1 Serial Killer
5 Townies

Lyncher's target is one of the townies, only the lyncher knows who. If the target is nightkilled the lyncher becomes town. If the last two players are the lyncher and his target, town wins.

[Tarhalindur]

Now that the original game is over:

Nominate Tarhalindur Mostly Mountainous:

2x Mafia Goon

1x Jack of All Trades (investigate, doc, kill, roleblock)
9x Vanilla Townies

Jack of All Trades can self-protect. (In the original game - which had a closed setup - he also had a distinctive kill method and any player he roleblocked would have been informed of the roleblock, but these should be unnecessary in an open setup.)

A less narcisstic setup name might not go amiss, either (TMM?)

[shaft.ed]

Revamp of Bus Driver Mafia

3 Mafia Goons
2 Bus Drivers
1 Odd Night Doc
1 Even Night Doc
1 Watcher
4 Townies

Seconded

, though the docs should probably be clarified to Odd Night and Even Night respectively.

What are you talking about old man?

[ChannelDelibird]

Aye, my vision ain't what it used to be, but hark you, I used to be a world-class darts player. Let me tell you, sonny, about the time I...*falls alseep*

[xyzzy]

Medix

3 scum
9 doctors

Only the player receiving the most protections is protected, so if 2 people protect Alice, 3 protect Bob, and 4 protect Carl, Carl will be protected from the nightkill. No one is protected if there's a tie.

[Sir Tornado]

Lycan Classic

1 Alpha Werewolf
11 villagers

The werewolf features as a cult rather than a scum group, which can recruit 4 times in the entire game provided the Alpha Werewolf lives. No Werewolf apart from Alpha Werewolf knows the identity of the other werewolves. The Werewolf primary win condition is that all the villagers should be dead.

Win conditions:

1) Alpha Werewolf: Must survive, team must win
2) Recruited werewolves: Must survive, alpha werewolf must die, team must win.
3) Unconverted Villagers: Team must win. (no survival condition)

[Mr. Flay]

See Lost Boys (in Theme Park) for a similar game. It may or may not be as cool as you think it will be...

Potential D1 losses suck, though.

[Guardian]

Contagion Open

2 Mafia, 7 Town

Nightless, first day is normal, from that point on the lynchee becomes kingmaker for the next period, and dies thereafter, like in Skruffs' game.

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nominate: Kingmaker Mini Open (11 players):

2 mafia
8 townies
1 kingmaker (sends list of two players to be king; king decides on execution; if kingmaker dies, random townie becomes kingmaker)

kingmaker cannot make self king, kingmaker cannot put a player on the list who was king the previous day unless no other options are possible,
day start

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This setup is called Loser Mafia.

The Setup

2 Mafia Goons
11 Townies

Special Rules:
Mafia Nightkills are compulsory. The mafia cannot kill a mafia goon.
Lynches are compulsory.

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Nominate Vengeful for the mod's in the queue
Nominate Texas Justice for the trigger happy

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Fifth Friends and Enemies and Enemies

Nominate: Mini Nightless

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2 day-talking mafia
5 townies
days only.

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I have a craving for simple, elegant setups.

[yellowbounder]

Medix

3 scum
9 doctors

Only the player receiving the most protections is protected, so if 2 people protect Alice, 3 protect Bob, and 4 protect Carl, Carl will be protected from the nightkill. No one is protected if there's a tie.

I predict that everyone talking about who they protected last night will become the major factor in this, and the Mafia trying to protect the minimum person. But the draw=no protection thing, is a little too random.
I'd

Nominate Medix with Tie Protection Mafia

I've been thinking about Jester Mafia, and whether it's possible to make it bigger.
The last game was 7 Townies, 2 Mafia, 1 Jester.
I'm not sure whether you could increase the number of Jesters, since that would mean the Jester himself would have to be careful.

How about:

Two Jester Mafia

10 Townies
3 Mafia
2 Jesters
Both Jesters know the other's identity, but win independently.

Clown and Jester Mafia

7 Townies
1 Vigilante
3 Mafia
1 Jester

Thoughts?

[ChannelDelibird]

Medix

3 scum
9 doctors

Only the player receiving the most protections is protected, so if 2 people protect Alice, 3 protect Bob, and 4 protect Carl, Carl will be protected from the nightkill. No one is protected if there's a tie.

I like this, kinda like a Doctor Dethy. YB, I don't think tie protection is feasible, because then town would say that everyone protects the player below them in the list and mafia would be exposed very easily.

[Max]

That's the point, if ties mean no protection anyone can be killed.

[shaft.ed]

Just make ties a random choice of those elligible problem solved.

[Holy]

Nominate

the following:

Reverse Mafia Nightless

(this is obviously borderline on how far open games can go, so opinions would be good)
4 Mafia
8 Townies
The extended rules for this game (ignore the night stuff, obviously) can be found here

Near-Vanilla

3 Mafia
1 Doctor
1 Jailkeeper
7 Townies

Actually, I'd like to see or play those two. Haven't examine the Reverse Mafia Nightless. So, seconded the Near-Vanilla first.

[yellowbounder]

Medix

3 scum
9 doctors

Only the player receiving the most protections is protected, so if 2 people protect Alice, 3 protect Bob, and 4 protect Carl, Carl will be protected from the nightkill. No one is protected if there's a tie.

I have an idea. There are two possiblities.

Medix A

2-4 Doctors protecting one person prevents an NK.

Medix B

The number of simultaneous Doctors protecting someone has to be equal to the number of the Scum.

[xyzzy]

Second: Medix B

[Holy]

Contagion Open

2 Mafia, 7 Town

Nightless, first day is normal, from that point on the lynchee becomes kingmaker for the next period, and dies thereafter, like in Skruffs' game.

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nominate: Kingmaker Mini Open (11 players):

2 mafia
8 townies
1 kingmaker (sends list of two players to be king; king decides on execution; if kingmaker dies, random townie becomes kingmaker)

kingmaker cannot make self king, kingmaker cannot put a player on the list who was king the previous day unless no other options are possible,
day start

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Thirded both.

[armlx]

nominate: Kingmaker Mini Open (11 players):

2 mafia
8 townies
1 kingmaker (sends list of two players to be king; king decides on execution; if kingmaker dies, random townie becomes kingmaker)

kingmaker cannot make self king, kingmaker cannot put a player on the list who was king the previous day unless no other options are possible,
day start

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This setup is called Loser Mafia.

The Setup

2 Mafia Goons
11 Townies

Special Rules:
Mafia Nightkills are compulsory. The mafia cannot kill a mafia goon.
Lynches are compulsory.

Support this

Reverse Mafia Nightless (this is obviously borderline on how far open games can go, so opinions would be good)
4 Mafia
8 Townies
The extended rules for this game (ignore the night stuff, obviously) can be found here

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