Red Wine Mafia: Game Over

[T S O]

That is one of the weakest paranoia-of-cabd posts i've ever seen from you. Ever. I like my vote.

I get the feeling she feels obliged to do it without actually feeling the vibe, and that's why it's so weak.

[T S O]

I don't trust anyone's meta on Pjovek. Projectmatt's page 3 read of him is suspect to me. Same goes for TSO's page 5 read. Both players were denouncing the wagon without proposing an alternative. TSO is still not voting. Neither player has shown any interest in figuring out players or moving the game along. TSO gets bonus scum-points for threatening to vig an alleged town read.

unvote, vote: TSO

Empire, what's your read on Tammy so far?

I think you're Town, I think Katsuki is scum, I think Chamber's Town and I think people like Dr. Cirno need to post for me to get a read on them.

Give me a break, I'm still formulating my opinions on the game.

[mykonian]

votecount

Albert B. Rampage (3): pjovek, projectmatt, tammy
pjovek (2): chamber, mindgamer
T S O (2): espeonage, crashtextdummie
mindgamer (2): Albert B. Rampage, katsuki
empire (1): Llamarble
espeonage (1): empire
fferyllt (1): cabd
tammy (1): fferyllt

Not voting (2): drcirno, TSO

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

[T S O]

Oh, I think projectmatt's Town too.

The ABR wagon is uninspired. Actually, all the top wagons are bad.

[fferyllt]

That is one of the weakest paranoia-of-cabd posts i've ever seen from you. Ever. I like my vote.

That's because it's not paranoia. I decided to try your purported approach.

[T S O]

I saw your explanation, I just don't buy it.

It's not a scumtell, it's just something you guys always do.

[fferyllt]

Free-floating anchorless paranoia is something I'm working on not doing. It screws up my reads and my play in a variety of bad ways that don't stop with the object of paranoia.

1430 was a sort of swan song wrt baseless paranoia about Cabd. I intentionally played that card to the max, and then burnt it to a crisp.

[T S O]

yeah if you do anything like 1430 you'll get auto-lynched.

guess I'll have to find a new way to read you.

[T S O]

people I will read but won't now: Llamarble, Espeonage, Tammy and Mindgamer

[Pjovek]

Reading through ISOs, I got a strong impression that she's just kinda floating through the early game, not really making any effort to develop reads or sort anyone.

Yes that is the case, though I'd expect scum to hide it better.

Not really too conclusive it honestly depends on how bad she is at this game/scum.

[Pjovek]

Oh, I think projectmatt's Town too.

The ABR wagon is uninspired. Actually, all the top wagons are bad.

Feel free to inspire me.

[T S O]

I will, but if I'm going to you need to be open to change, as opposed to tunnelling on your former scumread anyway.

Quote me the case you made already.

[fferyllt]

Reading through ISOs, I got a strong impression that she's just kinda floating through the early game, not really making any effort to develop reads or sort anyone.

Yes that is the case, though I'd expect scum to hide it better.

Not really too conclusive it honestly depends on how bad she is at this game/scum.

She's impressive as town. The one scum game of hers where I played with her, she did a good job of incorporating some of her signature town-play, though on reread I spotted a few things I'll keep in mind. Cabd linked to that game in an earlier post.

[Unmasked Kit]

I think Katsuki is scum

How interesting. Why?

[Katsuki]

I think Katsuki is scum

How interesting. Why?

[Katsuki]

people I will read but won't now: Mindgamer

Just as intersting.

[Espeonage]

Oh, I think projectmatt's Town too.

The ABR wagon is uninspired. Actually, all the top wagons are bad.

This is a good post. But we kinda need a wagon. The fact that none have been drummed up to l-3 or l-2 means that either scum are being voted for or scum sitting around trying to do nothing important.

unvote, vote: mindgamer

Pressure wagon please.

[Pjovek]

I will, but if I'm going to you need to be open to change, as opposed to tunnelling on your former scumread anyway.

Quote me the case you made already.

I'm the most open-minded guy in the world.

My mind is as open as a lady's legs when she sees my sex appeal.

[Espeonage]

I will, but if I'm going to you need to be open to change, as opposed to tunnelling on your former scumread anyway.

Quote me the case you made already.

I'm the most open-minded guy in the world.

My mind is as open as a lady's legs when she sees my sex appeal.

Vote mindgamer. At least until we get something out of him, then we might actually have something to play with instead of sitting around twiddling our thumbs at L-5.

[Pjovek]

It doesn't matter if I vote him or not.

First of, because pressure is not exactly the same as "votes just for the sake of it without real intent" because it's just that obvious nothing will ever come of it.
And secondly, because he hasn't posted in 3 days which means he's gonna be due for some hot replacement action so even if you disagree with my first assessment, it doesn't matter anyways since mindy only posted garbage fluff which means I'll have to read into the replacement anyways. And the replacement would obviously also know this.

[Pjovek]

plus he might be the batman

you never know

[Espeonage]

What do you propose then?

[Katsuki]

Chamber, what do you think of TSO?

[Pjovek]

What do you propose then?

Nothing, I'm saying, due to your direct engagement of myself on this matter, that I consider what you're trying to do a waste of time.

[mykonian]

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