Micro 374: Baby Enough Scum 8p - GAME OVER

[Salamence20]

Sal, I'm getting upset that you're ignoring the fact THAT I'M BEING HINDERED BY ACTUALLY RL PROBLEMS.

I don't care. And it's not because I'm an asshole.

I've been defeated, outplayed, and ate'd more times than I'd like to admit by people who are V/LA dealing with problems. I'm not buying it.

A majority of your posts are fluff and if you are stressed don't need to be in this game. Instead of posting "This is a bad vote TN" and "OMG ILY NM" play the game or go V/LA.

But I don't think you are town.

P-Edit: those reads are dumb and borderline fake.

[Salamence20]

Sal, I'm getting upset that you're ignoring the fact THAT I'M BEING HINDERED BY ACTUALLY RL PROBLEMS.

I don't care. And it's not because I'm an asshole.

I've been defeated, outplayed, and ate'd more times than I'd like to admit by people who are V/LA dealing with problems.

I'm not buying it.

A majority of your posts are fluff and if you are stressed don't need to be in this game. Instead of posting "This is a bad vote TN" and "OMG ILY NM" play the game or go V/LA.

But I don't think you are town.

P-Edit: those reads are dumb and borderline fake.

Edit: striked part was out of line

[Bins]

Dude...

Are you really saying you'd rather have me not posting than have me commenting on stuff?

My reads are legit what I think is right so can you not call them dumb and fake. I'd really appreciate it.

[Bins]

I'm about this close to replacing out. If you can't grasp my issue that I've mentioned, I'd rather not play in this game. I'm not here to kick you in the ass, Sal, I'm here to have a fun time playing a game.

[kabooooom]

I haven't got time. I will surely post today.

[Salamence20]

k

town >

n_m

lean town > stupd (may change due to lack of posts), doogal**
null >

phallacy

(town),

sala

(scum)
scum >

tn

, kaboom

**My one problem I have with Doogal is that I'm actually feeling something different about his play than what I experienced before. I have to look into THAT before I place him. For now, I have him as lean town.

Dude...

Are you really saying you'd rather have me not posting than have me commenting on stuff?

My reads are legit what I think is right so can you not call them dumb and fake. I'd really appreciate it.

Bolded are the reads you have actually stated before that post. The others you have not mentioned in this game nor have you stated any reason why they are town/scum/sk

[StupendousMan]

C'mon Salamence... Bins mentioned all of those reads earlier.

I'm nulltown on Phallacy and feeling mafia about Kaboom.

Cause like {N_M, Stup, Bins} town
{Phallacy} leaning town
{Doogal} null / mostly cause his play seems different from what i remember

town > n_m
lean town > stupd (may change due to lack of posts), doogal**
null > phallacy (town), sala (scum)
scum > tn, kaboom

**My one problem I have with Doogal is that I'm actually feeling something different about his play than what I experienced before. I have to look into THAT before I place him. For now, I have him as lean town.

Give credit where credit is due. She has mentioned these people in her reads, although you're right that she hasn't provided much reasoning for them. However, they've been consistent so at least acknowledge that.

Also, Sala, you gave another dramatic response about how you "wish" you were the SK. I'm really starting to lean towards you being the SK instead of Bins.

And where the hell did Doogal go?

[Salamence20]

I dont see anything about stupe there? Can you find that?

But, fine, maybe I am too hard on her, but thats because she was way for determined than this game, which I GUESS you can chalk up to her issues, but i still think its lackluster because the game has been going for about a week (i think).

As for "dramatic SK answer," she asked me if I have ever played as an SK. Look at my sig, im 0-0 as third party. I honestly hate playing as town because I have trust and doubting issues. I always secondguess myself.

[Doogal121]

I disappeared. Busy day at work, will be back on to post more later.

[StupendousMan]

I dont see anything about stupe there? Can you find that?

But, fine, maybe I am too hard on her, but thats because she was way for determined than this game, which I GUESS you can chalk up to her issues, but i still think its lackluster because the game has been going for about a week (i think).

As for "dramatic SK answer," she asked me if I have ever played as an SK. Look at my sig, im 0-0 as third party. I honestly hate playing as town because I have trust and doubting issues. I always secondguess myself.

She put her read on me in the second quote. Agree with you about the issues, I've given too much slack for that in the past. I still find her scummy, but there are other reasons because her reads have been consistent. The only thing wrong is she has almost nothing backing up her reads. And it's just weird to me that you didn't answer with a simple "no" in regards to past games instead of talking about your desire to be an SK in

this

game.



What does everyone think of the Bins wagon right now? Because Sala, TN, and I are barely getting any resistance and it's making me worried. Friction creates fire, guys.

[Bins]

I'm not a back-up my answers kind of gal. I'm a major gut reader, Sal should know that.

Also, I do backup where I feel neccessary. Like I explained the basis of what my TN read was going off of.

[tn5421]

Bins, if you're V/LA, toggle it in your user control panel.

[Phallacy]

What does everyone think of the Bins wagon right now? Because Sala, TN, and I are barely getting any resistance and it's making me worried. Friction creates fire, guys.

It's a bad wagon.

60% of the proponents are getting some level of scumread from me.

You're not getting any resistance because it's not going anywhere.

Does that answer your question?

I am seriously considering lynching a beetlejuicer for utility.

[Doogal121]

My reads so far, none really strong.
TN – Leans town
Bins – Leans town.
Stupendous –Leans town.
Not Mafia – not sure. Came in with a strong town post and then kinda lurked back a little once he was universally read as townie. Possible SK
Phallacy-Kabomb. I think one is scum, one is town, not sure which one yet.
Sala – I really suspect SK with the whole “let’s get the SK” thing going on.

I get that getting the SK is the most important priority here, but getting Mafia is also pretty important as well. If we get one of them, they lose their only ability to work together as a team to manipulate the vote. Then it’s just one person hoping to avoid the noose(or nightkill).

Plus a night kill could also hit Mafia.

I’d be ok with lynching the following (Phall-Kabomb-NM-Sala).

Vote Kabomb

L-2

[Not_Mafia]

When did you start scum reading Kaboooom? Before you were saying Phallacy was fake scumhunting him

[Not_Mafia]

Otherwise you didn't get us out of RVS, Phallacy (and Stupendous man to a lesser extent) did.

NM, can you explain what Stupendous did? Because I'm not seeing it.

I thought I I'd responded to this. He was the first to level a scumread at Kaboom.

[BBmolla]

Votecount 1.06

Bins - 3 - Salamence20, tn5421, StupendousMan,
kabooooom - 3 - Phallacy, Not_Mafia, Doogal121,
Phallacy - 1 - kabooooom

Not Voting: Bins,

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-24 18:18:00)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Doogal121]

When did you start scum reading Kaboooom? Before you were saying Phallacy was fake scumhunting him

Phallacy hydra 2 in 140 made a case that I could understand against Kabomby (and I indicated such in 145). I'm pretty sure one of them is scum and I'm 60-40 leaning against Kabomby (All he did was defend, defend, defend and then disappear. He at no point started to scumhunt someone else, which makes me think that he knows he is scum). I wouldn't put it past Phallacy to tunnel as mafia against the first player to show some defensive tenancies, which is why I think if boomy flips town, Phallacy is prob scum.

[StupendousMan]

Bins, you should use your vote.

I am seriously considering lynching a beetlejuicer for utility.

By beetlejuicer I'm assuming you mean Doogal? We do need to get some more momentum here, but I'm still not sure about him. What are your thoughts on lynching Sala?

Not Mafia – not sure. Came in with a strong town post and then kinda lurked back a little once he was universally read as townie. Possible SK

Agreed.

[Salamence20]

So everyone agrees with the "SK over mafia" idea, but Im the SK for suggesting it?

[StupendousMan]

So everyone agrees with the "SK over mafia" idea, but Im the SK for suggesting it?

No, you're suspected for continually pressing about it. When it becomes your sole focus, it appears that you're trying to make everyone think that the SK can't possibly be you because you're searching so hard for them.


Finding the SK is great and all in theory, but it's not as straightforward as finding mafia. There are certain things we have to look for to find the SK, and it delays scumhunting a good amount.

Scumhunting involves pressing, asking questions, etc. but finding the SK inhibits that by focusing more on looking for lurking and avoidance. The game has already slowed down because of this. You wonder why you are seen as possible scum (which makes me wonder why you care so much about yourself btw), but there's two very feasible scenarios:

1) As said above, you could be the SK making everyone think you aren't by committing every post to finding them
2) You could be mafia trying to divert town from scumhunting

Finding the SK = great
Slowing down the game and neglecting scumhunting = not great

[tn5421]

So everyone agrees with the "SK over mafia" idea, but Im the SK for suggesting it?

No, you're suspected for continually pressing about it. When it becomes your sole focus, it appears that you're trying to make everyone think that the SK can't possibly be you because you're searching so hard for them.


Finding the SK is great and all in theory, but it's not as straightforward as finding mafia. There are certain things we have to look for to find the SK, and it delays scumhunting a good amount.

Scumhunting involves pressing, asking questions, etc. but finding the SK inhibits that by focusing more on looking for lurking and avoidance. The game has already slowed down because of this. You wonder why you are seen as possible scum (which makes me wonder why you care so much about yourself btw), but there's two very feasible scenarios:

1) As said above, you could be the SK making everyone think you aren't by committing every post to finding them
2) You could be mafia trying to divert town from scumhunting

Finding the SK = great
Slowing down the game and neglecting scumhunting = not great

So you completely disagree with him and yet you're voting the same person as him?
Is that what you're saying?

[StupendousMan]

I disagree that finding the SK is the

only

important thing right now.

[tn5421]

Finding the SK is the MOST important thing right now. I agree that the SK is most likely Bins or Sala, and I'm willing to check Bins first. Kaboooom is nearly confscum but he can wait since mafia can't really do anything and there is almost no way he's actually the SK.

[Not_Mafia]

Why are we so certain Kaboom isn't the SK? And I don't find the SK cases on Bins or Sala to be particularly overwhelming. Bins has RL issues and Sala is behaving like Sala. Mafia may not have a kill but it's better than a potential mislynch that can easily be chained off if we're wrong on both counts.