Genesis Mafia - Game Over!

[Vi]

Actually before I get to RCisms...

Vi, why are you townreading RC. Its never explained.
Do you think we are TvT here?

I think so. I think RedCoyote has seen me be impressively wrong with my Town reads before (on him specifically) (and my scum reads on him specifically too) but I don't think that's the case this time.

[RedCoyote]

I think that we've seen enough of each player's deliberate actions that I'm comfortable voting out any of the three players I named.

This is where we part ways. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but I don't subscribe to this.

I will ride with you on any of those four, but I won't need anything "super-enlightening" to get me off (again, unless our mutual understanding of the English language fails me). Maybe I'm getting too lily-livered nowadays. I do realize this is D1, so, you know, what are we really doing striving for perfection anyway?

Eh, I don't know. I drew town this game. AKA I'm never going to be satisfied. AKA I'll second guess myself until I'm dragged kicking and screaming to the end.

UNVOTE: Plum; VOTE: Kinetic

I think RedCoyote has seen me be impressively wrong with my Town reads before (on him specifically)

If this isn't townVi, then townVi has learned how to play me like a fiddle while on sabbatical.

[Untrod Tripod]

Votecount 1.7

Albert B. Rampage - 2 (SleepyKrew, LLD)
Jazzmyn - 1 (ABR)
Juls
Kinetic - 2 (Plum, RedCoyote)
Lady Lambdadelta
Master Zik
Plum - 3 (Vi, Juls, vezok)
Quaroath
RedCoyote - 2 (Master Zik, Salamence20)
Salamence20
SleepyKrew - 1 (Quaroath)
vezokpiraka - 1 (Kinetic)
Vi - 1 (Jazzmyn)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is (expired on 2015-07-06 12:00:00)

[Salamence20]

RC is Vi town all of a sudden?

Am I scum? In that case why would I seem to be after you instead of SK/Vezo/Kinetic?

Especially since we have 2 games together where I was scum and you were town and I would manipulate you into townreading me?

Why would I?

[RedCoyote]

EBWOP: then

scumVi

has learned how to play

[Vi]

Unvote: Plum
Vote: Kinetic

(L-4)

[RedCoyote]

Sal, how can you say the words "all of a sudden" with a straight face after myself and Vi have been interacting over an entire page?

I just don't get how you continue to be this dense. Is this an act or something? I've never thought of you as someone that has had so much trouble reading between the lines before. I've played with you as scum before (twice as you have noted) and you are very slick... so this does not remind me of scumSal.

Your questions are so basic and uninteresting to me. It's like you're giving me an impression of someone's very first game as town? I'm not trying to insult you, but this is pretty level 1 stuff you're coming at me with.

[Salamence20]

RC if you are scum this game. Im not playing with you anymore.

Because I cant stand while you AtE me into feeling like an asshole.

[Salamence20]

I seriously feel bad because Im not scum looking to mislynch you.

I do think you drew a scum role

[Salamence20]

Then again, would you really have it in your heart to say those things if you were scum?

I dont think youre Zmuffinman.

[SleepyKrew]

I really hope that's more fun to read than ABR's nonsense.

[Quaroath]

So we've added 6 pages in just about 48 hours with TONS of walls . Um. I don't have the time before I go to bed. Will catch up tomorrow.

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote sleepyKrew

This guy is scum. He disappeared for the last few pages and now he comes back with nothing. This is the scum SK.

[SleepyKrew]

[nothing intensifies]

[Vi]

I really hope that's more fun to read than ABR's nonsense.

Is it, though?

[RedCoyote]

vez, can't find a wagon that suits you?

[vezokpiraka]

vez, can't find a wagon that suits you?

Sk is the wagon I want. Plum was a wagon that formed grew and I plum is also a scumread..

[Albert B. Rampage]

??

[vezokpiraka]

Yeah I brainfarted.

What I mean is that Plum is y second scum read and when I saw the wagon on her grow and the one SK do nothing I decided to switch.

[Kinetic]

I may have to ask for a replacement. Personal life issues. I'll see if I can take care of them.

[SleepyKrew]

What I mean is that Plum is y second scum read and when I saw the wagon on her grow and the one SK do nothing I decided to switch.

You should write an MD article

[Salamence20]

Kinetic/RC/Vez are good votes today.

I may have to ask for a replacement. Personal life issues. I'll see if I can take care of them.

Ill do you one better

VOTE: Kinetic

Inb4 RC attacks me for voting his vote, but I expressed more reason to vote kinetic before him.

Townreading: Juls, LLD, Plum, SK?
Scumreading: RC, Kinetic, Vezo

[Salamence20]

*My read on Vi goes here*

[Jazzmyn]

About the "creepy" discussion, in retrospect I probably should have just left it alone, but it bugged me enough to have to take a step back from the game. I'm over it now, I will refrain from saying anything more about it, and I apologize for contributing to the distraction.

As for the game itself, I will do a fresh read from the start and post up my thoughts in a bit.

Regards,
Jazz

[Plum]

You're making things up as you go, you have no credibility.

If you have to tell someone else that they have no credibility . . .

RC - First thing about my first few posts is that I was on mobile (and sometimes sleep deprived/addled by the stress of moving). I apologize for my fucked syntax. I also think I'd ascribe the "overly proper" tone of the first post you mention to that, but take it how you will. Not sure I really see that I'm "talking to Juls as though she's Town" - I do question why she thinks I'd need to dissemble about whether I had the same thought process as Sala in order to justify following a lone, early vote. Anyway. I can at least translate a little bit.

The first a bit for what I assumed the reasoning was (related to you engaging only in joke territory) I liked, though on the other hand not hard to pick up on/vote for as scum, so not too indicative. Seemed better/more productive when your response was in joke territory, less so now because presumably player relationships and stuff, which gives context that makes it all kinda null (also that being more likely context for LLD's vote to start with than what my best guess was initially &c.).

Spoiler: Let's not make this post too wally

1. I initially liked LLD's vote for what I assumed was the reasoning behind it (hence why I later said it was for what it suggested about LLD as much as about reflecting scumminess of SK). I assumed that it was related to SK only engaging on the level of joking around, and that that was a good point. However, I did consider that this was not really something that I thought scum couldn't pick up on in that way and thence choose as a vote, so it didn't hold *that* much weight with me. Regardless, it seemed like good thinking.

2. It seemed like a better or more productive vote given that SK's response was to continue engaging only on the joking level. This was something that came up in preview while I typed that post, which may have contributed to me using a question mark there.

3. However, LLD's response afterwards suggested to me that the whole vote and response might have been related to their relationship/in-jokes they shared - that is, largely influenced by stuff that wasn't inherent to the game. In that context, the whole thing shifted towards null.

4. So at that time I believed I was wrong about my initial assumptions about the rationale for the vote in any case.

I appreciate Vi's Post 204, so at least I currently have a read there (Town lean).

I'm basically very pleased that Kinetic wagon became an actual thing, naturally. But I think the timing of Salamance's vote is bizarre. Sure, he votes after the Vi and RC shift to that wagon. But he posts after that shift without shifting his vote, and

then

shifts after Kinetic says he's dealing with stuff out of game and may need to request replacement? I can't see how that sort of thing prompts a vote that wouldn't otherwise be there unless the voter assumes that Kinetic is mentioning such things in bad faith. That's what's weird. Perhaps moreso than voting with his scumread RC . . . after attacking RC for voting me with his scumread Vi. That's also weird, really. Salamance, what gives?