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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:56 pm

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Postgame discussion still happens most of the time. I agree that it sometimes doesn't, though.

(Also, your signature's advertising signups for a game that started in 2015. You might want to fix that.)
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:01 pm

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It's just a bummer but sometimes I can understand if the mod didn't have time or something. Also, I'm not into nai either. So is it just me and you from the same year, callforjudgement?
In post 159, Hoopla wrote:i think overconfidence in reads is more toxic than seeing most of the game as null
If I had everyone as null I'd feel sad and cry on my pillow everyday until I had the emotional energy to scream at someone with all my hatred because they are scum.

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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:22 pm

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I care a lot about players claiming how confident they are in their reads truthfully. It makes it harder for scum to hide (as they have to come up with a believable confidence as well as a believable read), and in the case where the person claiming the read is town, it makes it easier for the town to collectively scumhunt.

If someone claims to be super confident in a read, I'm more likely to lynch the read target, and more likely to lynch the person claiming the read if the target flips town.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:34 pm

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that person is titus

what is your next course of action
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:37 pm

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In post 227, callforjudgement wrote:I care a lot about players claiming how confident they are in their reads truthfully. It makes it harder for scum to hide (as they have to come up with a believable confidence as well as a believable read), and in the case where the person claiming the read is town, it makes it easier for the town to collectively scumhunt.

If someone claims to be super confident in a read, I'm more likely to lynch the read target, and more likely to lynch the person claiming the read if the target flips town.
There are some people who are habitually overconfident in their reads though
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:10 pm

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If someone has a habit of claiming confident reads when they aren't, I'm most likely to treat them as a VI.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:27 pm

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I don't think people being more confident in their reads makes them more likely to be right
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:53 am

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I'd normally agree entirely. Pretending to very confident on a read you actually aren't is dishonesty and it's hard to judge that dishonesty and fakeness apart from just an entirely fake read from scum.

But in my case I find I have to exaggerate a bit because my natural state is extreme over the top doubt and second guessing, which would be entirely unproductive to share if I wanted to get something done. My strongest scumread in a game can still be kind of weak sometimes.
X is scum for these reasons, vote him -> other people vote X and I can use the pressure to judge them more closely
X is maybe scum but I don't really know -> low pressure, furthermore people get annoyed at me personally for being "wishy-washy","low-commitment/opportunistic", etc.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:33 am

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My normal workaround is "A, B, and C, and these point to X being scum because D". How much I think D actually is scum depends on how much evidence there is for other players. (Sometimes when a game slows down I'll try to make a case for scum on
everyone
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:57 am

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In post 228, McMenno wrote:that person is titus

what is your next course of action
I have blacklisted and replaced out of games containing said that player
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:57 pm

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In post 234, Maruchan wrote:
In post 228, McMenno wrote:that person is titus

what is your next course of action
I have blacklisted and replaced out of games containing said that player

I don't think I've ever been as angry at anyone in a game as I was during that one game where I was a mason and Titus was town.


I like her as a person and so I avoid playing with her.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:59 pm

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In post 235, kuribo wrote:
In post 234, Maruchan wrote:
In post 228, McMenno wrote:that person is titus

what is your next course of action
I have blacklisted and replaced out of games containing said that player

I don't think I've ever been as angry at anyone in a game as I was during that one game where I was a mason and Titus was town.


I like her as a person and so I avoid playing with her.
Except maybe Pikmin Mafia and whatever game it was where that guy said he could understand why my wife left me. I legit wanted to punch that fucker in the face.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:12 pm

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getting mad at people is useless so i prefer to just make funny jokes and ignore that person

it probably doesnt work
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:39 pm

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I think I realized it guys. Maybe its becausr we are growing too old for this now and no one uses forums anymore.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:42 pm

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I think it's because you didn't stick around to teach your old ways and you really just need to deal with it
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:49 pm

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I always find it funny when people have a nostalgic view of the old times
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:30 pm

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The only thing worse than current site meta is the old site meta
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:02 pm

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Amen. The future of Mafia is so bright it burns my retinas, even thru my shades
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:23 am

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In post 241, kuribo wrote:The only thing worse than current site meta is the old site meta
In post 240, Firebringer wrote:I always find it funny when people have a nostalgic view of the old times
your avatars are too similar can you fix this plz
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:24 am

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At least they have avatars.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:24 am

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what about my avatar
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:06 am

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In post 245, McMenno wrote:what about my avatar
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:19 am

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In post 243, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 241, kuribo wrote:The only thing worse than current site meta is the old site meta
In post 240, Firebringer wrote:I always find it funny when people have a nostalgic view of the old times
your avatars are too similar can you fix this plz
Me and kuribo are obviously the same person
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:20 am

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fuck off zakk
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:35 am

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