Mini 1655: Delicious Mafia (Game Over, Perfect Scum Win!)

[Aeronaut]

vc 2.8

Votecount 2.8

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Boonskiies -

Bookitty, Tn5421, House, Saul Goode

(L-2)

Ozgin -

Oddmusic

(L-5)

Tn5421 -

Boonskiies

(L-5)

Bookitty -

T S O

(L-5)

Oddmusic -

Elusive

(L-5)

T S O -

Silverwolf

(L-5)

Not Voting:

Ozgin, Kop

Mod Notes:

~ Searching for a replacement for Ozgin
~ Food Queue:

Cupcakes, French bread, Bagel / Cream Cheese, Sexy Sexy Pizza Rolls, Filet Mignon,
Roast Beef, Hamburger Helper, Stroganoff, Freshly Prepared Ramen, Banana Split, Fruit Smoothie

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2015-04-10 22:30:00)

[T S O]

my god that looks nice

[House]

I'll be confirmed town tomorrow, so if you shoot me tonight it's a scumclaim.

Super obvious VT claim is super obvious.

Wolfie knows better.

[Saul Goode]

Eventually you will learn that sometimes I just say things to keep scum on their toes. Eventually.

[Boonskiies]

Alright, caught up beesnatches.
Going to make a reads list, and it's going to be the cat's meow!! The bee's knees, if you will.

T S O

- town; i'm pretty familiar with T S O's town play and scum play now. Usually when he seems scummy to everyone, he's always town. When he seems super obvious town, he's scum. This is T S O's town game.

SilverWolfy

- town, mason right?

Boonskiies

- super town.

House

- I'm a little indifferent on this slot now. I've never been pushed by House before really, and his gameplay doesn't seem to be different, it's just interesting to be on this side. I'm going to lean scum on him, if only due to POE, and my town read of T S O. Also, I have some other scum reads that I will talk about that would make House scum.

Bookitty

- Yeah, I don't like Boo this game. She's off. She's scum. I feel like she's trying to setup possible mislynches around the board, and make it in a way where she could easily reason herself without having pressure given to her. I really don't like how Boo's interactions with House. Her read on House here feels like a way of communicating to her scum partner. Also the town read is odd to match up with what was said.

Ozgin

- Bookitty and House have each only been on Ozgin's wagon once. Bookitty went on Ozgin real early in the game, before anything really happened, so I think that's something. She soon moves off. House sees Ozgin potentially going down a little later, but still early, and decides to put a vote there, and not for real any good reason. I believe this shows something. Also, there's a VCA I want to do involving Ozgin, which I'll do in a sec. Anyways, by association, Ozgin is scum. Not even relating to his gameplay...oi.

oddmusic

- I think he's playing a fine game. He seems like town trying to figure things out.

tn5421

- Sigh...I hate to say it, but after reading the thread, and everyone's ISO's...I think we're being biased against each other and are in a Town v Town situation, and scum is hopping on it. Give this some thought, please, Tn.

Saul Goode

- I like Saul. Saul is good. I like how he's dealing with House. town.

elusive

- if you lynch elusive, I quit. Elusive is the towniest person here. As scum, she never would have brought up the fact of her misreading me all the time as a reason to

not

vote me. Respect to elusive, and also my strongest non mason town read.

Kop

- mason? yeah. town.

So yeah, I believe the scum team is Bookitty/Ozgin/House. I feel the only other possibility is oddmusic being in House's spot, but I highly doubt that.

VOTE: Bookitty

[Boonskiies]

This was part of the vote count at the end of Day 1. Now, Elusive and Saul are freaking town...so that's why they are green.
the people off these wagons are Psyche, Tn, and myself. Tn and I are crossvoting. Now, since I'm starting to believe Tn vs Boon is being manipulated by scum, that would make all 3 scum members on the Wrong Song wagon.

TSO/House/Bookitty/Oddmusic/Ogzin.

Wrong Song

-

T S O, House, Bookitty, Oddmusic,

Kop, Silverwolf,

Ogzin

Ogzin -

Elusive, Saul Goode, Wrong Song,

(L-4)


Even if you aren't willing to believe that Tn and I are Town v Town, you have to understand why our best chance of lynching scum today is within the 5 unconfirmed on Wrong Song's wagon. I believe T S O to be very town this game. Ozgin hammered, which was scummy. House and Boo ignited the wagon which is Wrong Song after seeing Town TSO start it as a counterwagon to the Ozgin wagon.

[Boonskiies]

Also, TN/Saul...I ask to unvote me, and then watch how House and Bookitty are forced to react.

[Boonskiies]

In the beginning of the day, House votes Bookitty, but it doesn't even last more than a page or two before he unvotes.

[Boonskiies]

Vote Count 2.3
Vote Count 2.4

Now look at these two vote counts. 2.3 Silver wolf and kop are both voting tn, and tn is voting me.

not even 40 posts later, bookitty and house both decide to join and start fire on the Boon wagon with an added Silverwolf.

By the next votecount, silverwolf is the one who decides to unvote, while the others stay on.

Tn actually decides to switch votes. House is off by the next vote count and on to Tn.

The next vote count TN decides to go back on to my wagon, and House follows, following House voting Tn.

[Bookitty]

Boon, do you understand why we were voting TN or you in the first place?

If your answer is no, I'm going to take back some of the things I said about TSO.

[Boonskiies]

What do you think of tn or Ozgin slot?

My understanding was the poe pointed to Ozgin/TN/Boon. So I'm good anywhere in here.

Go with this for vig shot and use your best judgement based on ISO's, wagon and vote analysis, etc. Don't narrow it down more than that right now so you are not telegraphing to scum who you are going to shoot.

I disagree, Wolfie.

I think he should narrow it down to 3-4 possibilities so he's not given an out if none of those die in the event scum don't shoot in that pool (which is an obvious probability, considering they have a plethora of PR's to choose from).

Scum can't stop him from shooting those 3-4, and I somehow doubt they'd alibi him by killing in that pool when both Masons are still alive.

I suggest: Ozgin, tn5421, T S O, me (that's right, I'm willing to put my name in the hat because it's my idea)

You clearing Bookitty? Why?

Who said I was clearing Boo?[

/quote]


This is also incredibly scummy. There's no reason to say yourself in the vig pool if you are town. Absolutely none. You weren't being pushed or pressured or voted or anything. And obviously as scum, he's not going to put a group of all town members in his vig pool, as if you shoot his scum buddy in his vig pool, he could get town cred. See, House has barely put any pressure on any of the 3 people he put in his vig pool. Tn he keeps somewhat being shifty with. And TSO is pushing his other partner in Bookitty. This is like confirming House as scum. His who said I was clearing Boo? line isn't great either. This feels like backpedaling to making sure he's not associating himself with Boo.

[Boonskiies]

Also, Bookitty has said she's "okay with a(n) [insert name here] lynch" for about the majority of the players alive.

[Boonskiies]

Along with 'not sure' about her reads on anyone else.

[Boonskiies]

Boon, do you understand why we were voting TN or you in the first place?

If your answer is no, I'm going to take back some of the things I said about TSO.

It's obvious why I have votes. I should have votes. I've done nothing.

[Boonskiies]

But now I'm here; I've given A LOT of input, and now I'm waiting for you to try and make it scummy. Let's see.

[House]

House

- I'm a little indifferent on this slot now. I've never been pushed by House before really, and his gameplay doesn't seem to be different, it's just interesting to be on this side. I'm going to lean scum on him, if only due to POE, and my town read of T S O. Also, I have some other scum reads that I will talk about that would make House scum.

So, you're "indifferent" on my slot. Then you're "leaning scum", and by the end of your post, you seem to be set on it?

Man up and pick a stance, Boon.

Bookitty

- Yeah, I don't like Boo this game. She's off. She's scum. I feel like she's trying to setup possible mislynches around the board, and make it in a way where she could easily reason herself without having pressure given to her. I really don't like how Boo's interactions with House. Her read on House here feels like a way of communicating to her scum partner. Also the town read is odd to match up with what was said.

Looks pretty reachy. You're seeing what you want to see, instead of what is actually there.

Ozgin

- Bookitty and House have each only been on Ozgin's wagon once. Bookitty went on Ozgin real early in the game, before anything really happened, so I think that's something. She soon moves off. House sees Ozgin potentially going down a little later, but still early, and decides to put a vote there, and not for real any good reason. I believe this shows something. Also, there's a VCA I want to do involving Ozgin, which I'll do in a sec. Anyways, by association, Ozgin is scum. Not even relating to his gameplay...oi.

So... Ozgin is only scum due to association with a player that you are indifferent about, leaning scum, and scumreading all in the same post?

Gotcha.

oddmusic

- I think he's playing a fine game. He seems like town trying to figure things out.

Yet you'd put him in my slot in your lynch table once I flip? Yeah, right.

Saul Goode

- I like Saul. Saul is good. I like how he's dealing with House. town.

And you have zero concerns about a confirmable power role not... being... confirmed?

In my first scum game, I made the mistake of fakeclaiming a confirmable power role.

I didn't confirm my role.

Know what happened next? I bet you can guess.

elusive

- if you lynch elusive, I quit. Elusive is the towniest person here. As scum, she never would have brought up the fact of her misreading me all the time as a reason to

not

vote me. Respect to elusive, and also my strongest non mason town read.

No objections.

So yeah, I believe the scum team is Bookitty/Ozgin/House. I feel the only other possibility is oddmusic being in House's spot, but I highly doubt that.

Really? You think it's absolutely impossible that Saul's fakeclaiming scum? Impossible?

P-Edit: Wish granted.

[Boonskiies]

Sigh. ^ Doesn't realize I'm reading through all the ISO's and reading through everything WHILE I'm typing it up.

[Boonskiies]

And what a surprise that the two people I'm scum reading the most are the first two to react. Nice.

[House]

And what a surprise that the two people I'm scum reading the most are the first two to react. Nice.

Using the power of coincidental timing to try to doubtcast our posts simply because we happen to be online.

Nice.

[SilverWolf]

Thank You Boonskiies!!

TSO-It was the PR talk I didn't like and if you look back on what I quoted, you should see why but I'm not spelling it out for you.

I have to re-think about this for just a minute.

Also, sorry for my emotional reaction earlier everyone. RL stress was bleeding into yet another one of my games. *sigh* That's why I cut back to 2 and don't even mind being NK'd tonight.

UNVOTE:

[Boonskiies]

Silver, can I get your thoughts on my House/Bookitty? Whenever you have the chance, of course.

[Boonskiies]

I realized I'm a much stronger player when I don't interact with others as much...haha.

[Boonskiies]

I realized I'm a much stronger player when I don't interact with others as much...haha.

Well, my scum reads anyways.

[SilverWolf]

Silver, can I get your thoughts on my House/Bookitty? Whenever you have the chance, of course.

Yep, I'm going to re-ISO everyone and give updated reads here shortly.

[House]

I realized I'm a much stronger player when I don't interact with others as much...haha.

Well, my scum reads anyways.

Your OMGUS scumreads*

I was only 1 of 4 possibilities until I stayed campaigning your lynch, then all of a sudden I was a scumread.

Very convenient.