micro 840: mystery box of silver (this is over)

[sheepsaysmeep]

im stupid lol

[Slaxx]

I have a sinking feeling I’ve been played.

[skitter30]

ok so the n2 missing nk *appears* to be a no kill because there's no other mechanism that i know of in this game that could have prevented the nk short of nk'ing me which is just .... really dumb

is there any reason not to no lynch today? i guess i just hope there isn't a n4 strongman or something but that prob isn't too likely, right?

[Slaxx]

ok so the n2 missing nk *appears* to be a no kill because there's no other mechanism that i know of in this game that could have prevented the nk short of nk'ing me which is just .... really dumb

is there any reason not to no lynch today? i guess i just hope there isn't a n4 strongman or something but that prob isn't too likely, right?

The point of the setup seems to be that you can’t die. Let’s do math.

Today fypov there’s a 1/3 chance.
Tomorrow there’s a 1/2 chance unless you get killed then there’s a 1/3 chance we win still.

So optimally we don’t lynch today.

[skitter30]

ya

i really do want to know what happened to the nk tho

[podoboq]

I'm OK nolynching. If nobody has an explanation for the night 2 lack of night kill, perhaps we should just do that

[skitter30]

VOTE: no lynch

And hopefully i get it right tomorrow!

[Slaxx]

VOTE: No Lynch

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

d4 end vc

no lynch (3):

sheepsaysmeep, skitter30, Slaxx

not voting (1):

podoboq

with 4 alive, it took 3 to not lynch.

[schadd_]

night 4 starts now and ends in (expired on 2019-01-13 17:05:00). please submit all night actions to me, either by PM or in a private thread where relevant.

i will speed up the night if all players tell me they want that

[schadd_]

Slaxx has been killed in the night! he was a

Vanilla Townie.

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

Vote count 5.0

not voting (3):

podoboq, skitter30, sheepsaysmeep

with 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch. day 5 starts now and ends january 28 (2019) at 00:30 central US time; in (expired on 2019-01-28 00:30:00)

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[skitter30]

hi i suspect i know who i'm going to vote for but i have like a *process* for lylo which will probably take a few days to go through, which will largely consist of my thinking aloud as i go through various things like: vcs, each of your isos, mastina's iso etc

in the interim, feel free to explain why i shouldn't vote you

(and again, we never cleared up why there wasn't an nk n2, right?)

also sheep, is there a reason why i shouldn't just vote you for being guiltied n2?

also i was a little weirded out that slaxx didn't die n3 and was beginning to worry that i had gotten pocketed so it's good that got cleared up too

[podoboq]

VOTE: sheep

Alright, that makes sense.

[podoboq]

Take your time, skitter. I’ll post some stuff later today probably, but sheep should probably get a chance to say something.

Also, for what it’s worth, still a Vanilla townie, still have no idea why there was no night kill.

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: podo

anyhway so


meph literally explicitly said that the role stated they did not have a guilty

i think either some fractions villagers just randomly come up as inno and the rest are guilty or the theory that ive had since they claimed which is that people who receive abilities are millered to that investigator which would explain why a) i was the one to receive it and b) some stuff balance wise? (im vanilla too)

[sheepsaysmeep]

i could sense a large difference between podo this game and the mini normal that just finished when he subbed in but it wasnt really something i pushed because his changes this game actually made him a lot more villagery


he's basically been under my radar the entire game so idrk how i'd approach trying to sell you especially bc we basically lost already but i'll re iso him after school

[podoboq]

meph literally explicitly said that the role stated they did not have a guilty

I mean, it DID state she had a guilty, just that the guilty could be a false positive. It's still a guilty on you.

[podoboq]

There are only three possibilities I can come up with for the lack of a night kill.
A) The mafia team forgot to submit the kill

(unlikely, obviously)

B) The mafia team decided to WiFoM

(doesn't make sense at that stage of the game)

C) The mafia team forgot that skitter was bulletproof and target her

(also extremely unlikely, but we have some evidence that this is a possibility since sheep appeared confused at why skitter was still alive)

[podoboq]

i could sense a large difference between podo this game and the mini normal that just finished when he subbed in

Not that it matters, but I didn't sub into this game or the other game.

The difference between the two is something that I've talked about here already. This game was significantly more active, had some extremely toxic people, and I happened to be on vacation right when it started, so I didn't get early interactions with people. The majority of you seem to know eachother, and there was a lot of meta talk used to progress the game. That meta talk doesn't parse as gameplay for me, so I felt kind of lost for most of this game.

[skitter30]

ok i'm leaning quite a lot towards sheep, ngl
but i'm going to do the lylo due diligence before i vote

[skitter30]

i think either some fractions villagers just randomly come up as inno and the rest are guilty or the theory that ive had since they claimed which is that people who receive abilities are millered to that investigator which would explain why a) i was the one to receive it and b) some stuff balance wise? (im vanilla too)

but why tho? it's like needlessly complicated

also i'm still weirded out that you're claiming to have recieved a n6 vig n2, but me/meph got ours at-end-of-day1

[skitter30]

ok vcs first:

Vote count 1.1

mastina (3): the worst, InfiniteSoda, sheepsaysmeep
the worst (2): mastina, Pink Ball
Nibbui (1): northsidegal
skitter30 (1): Nibbui

not voting (2): podoboq, skitter30

northsidegal (3): the worst, sheepsaysmeep, Nibbui
the worst (2): mastina, Pink Ball
mastina (1): InfiniteSoda
Nibbui (1): northsidegal


not voting (2): podoboq, skitter30

^^^ could be early distancing from sheep; didn't stay on the mastina vote long

Vote count 1.8

Mephistophanes 39 (2): skitter30, sheepsaysmeep
podoboq (1): mastina
mastina (1): the worst
Nibbui (1): Mephistophanes 39
the worst (1): Pink Ball

not voting (3): LolWagons, podoboq, Nibbui

you both sat on nsg/meph for a fairly long while; sheep for even longer than podoboq
mastina's podoboq day1 push/vote feels like it should be clearing
this is kinda weird and i can't explain it super well but it at the same time feels pretty much exactly like the sort of push scum would make on their partner to distance when they know it isn't going anywhere

Vote count 1.a


mastina (3): Nibbui, the worst, Mephistophanes 39
the worst (3): Pink Ball, LolWagons, skitter30
podoboq (1): mastina

not voting (2): podoboq, sheepsaysmeep

you both just abstain from the mastina wagon (both wagons actually) from here till eod; neither of you are on an eod wagon

[unv][/unv]

would switch to mastina but not duck


i fucking hate this but at this poitn it would be throwing to ignore that nancy is villager

i thought about it and... tw could be scum here idk


he's definitely not anywhere near clear by meta anymore and i barely even read those games before being like lolme

tw's tone just...

totally totally shifted after that claim

in an i-kinda-dislike way

right i hated this progression and how you supported the tw wagon as it was heating up but didn't join it, but also didn't join the cw (which incidentally was on scum)

also just going to point out nibbui was holloring: mastina -> sheep -> (slaxx maybe? i don't rmember who the third was) and he was the first nk

mastina (2): sheepsaysmeep, podoboq
podoboq (1): mastina

not voting (4): Mephistophanes 39, skitter30, Pink Ball, Slaxx

also sheep starting here was maybe overzealous? still do'nt like the mastina vote-parking on podoboq tho

mastina (4): podoboq, Slaxx, skitter30, Pink Ball
podoboq (1): mastina
Mephistophanes 39 (1): sheepsaysmeep

not voting (1): Mephistophanes 39

are scum offwagon here?

[skitter30]

ok also check: what was my read on sheep/podoboq day1?
because scum!mastina presumably had some sort of plan, and i'm not entirely sure she was trying to set herself up for endgame?

she was def setting up either herself or her partner to get me to vote wrong in lylo based on my day1 reads but i'm not sure if it was her or her partner and that kinda impacts how i read what she was doing day1

i'm not sure if she was expecting to get lynched day2, probably actually; that's how she started her first post that day.
if she really did she was def setting up her partner for endgame, which makes me a bi tmore dubious of her podoboq push day1

[sheepsaysmeep]

Now, I will be 100% open in saying that the role literally said that an Innocent result would be a guaranteed innocent, but a Guilty read would not.

apparently the role explicitly says "a guilty would not be guilty"

it's wack but they flipped v