Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[xofelf]

I had fun making it seem like xof and I might be aligned

See, that's what tipped me off that you were sus as hell. There's "I invited this person cuz I wanna play *with* them" and "I'mma make them look like they're on my side super hard". It made me laugh a lot though. We agreed to this game because maybe I wouldn't roll a role I despise, and nope, as I told you would happen, I rolled VT. I've been laughing about it the whole game. And I did have fun, especially that last day. I just got busy and couldn't be more into it.

[MURDERCAT]

Like even mechanically I think you outplayed us, it's just that the way the roles worked out allowed us to win through it.

We had 2/4 cop guilties which is pretty reasonable with 33% odds for each one and our 3 vig shots hit 2 townies.

And I think had gamma not fake claimed we still would have had to go to Elo to win because I think I would have pushed for xof to be elimed first.

[Infinity 324]

Isis you went down fighting that’s for sure.

What about me?

You too I mean isis was actual confirmed scum though.

[Isis]

I think Joat should have the sane cop removed so it can stay a 2 point role. Third role could be doctor.

But I'm not sure this setup concept is good at offering something that isn't better offered by either a closed setup or nonrandom open setup.

[MURDERCAT]

But I'm not sure this setup concept is good at offering something that isn't better offered by either a closed setup or nonrandom open setup.

I feel this way about a lot of semi open setups

[Infinity 324]

I think this is also an example of scum outplaying themselves a little bit. The d1 bus on egotisi made it more likely for them to get copped, and that + only taking 5 points of roles means you’re more likely to lose to mechanics. Not that you deserved it in any way but

[Gamma Emerald]

This setup is pretty much a flip-flopped Stack the Deck

[PlusJOYED]

I think if maf killed battle mage n2 we would've been in a bad spot. I don't think I'd be able to interpret a taylor crumb as inno

[MURDERCAT]

I too think a special exception to the rules should be made to allow battle mage to be killed by scum multiple times

[Isis]

"only taking five points of roles" dude I would have picked those roles if they costed 7 points, we didn't do it for the massclaim mind games, those were actually the best roles.

Rolecop is the only time that counterplays trickster, and we thought there were probably 3

[Gamma Emerald]

And I think had gamma not fake claimed we still would have had to go to Elo to win because I think I would have pushed for xof to be elimed first.

How would I win that limlo? I come in at best less TRed than the other suspect on the chopping block

[Isis]

The battle mage kill was just because he was bringing good energy to the game and a quieter game would be more scumsided, that was my thinking. Was very close decision vs. exorcists who seemed limproof.

[MURDERCAT]

How would I win that limlo? I come in at best less TRed than the other suspect on the chopping block

I agree there is no chance you win it, just using that as an example of how well you day played.

[Infinity 324]

"only taking five points of roles" dude I would have picked those roles if they costed 7 points, we didn't do it for the massclaim mind games, those were actually the best roles.

Rolecop is the only time that counterplays trickster, and we thought there were probably 3

You thought there were 3 tricksters?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes, she did
Despite that having lower odds

[PlusJOYED]

yeah I thought the mod hydra statement was a mod townslip for gamma so I had them townbinned, had they not claimed I woulda gone for X

[PlusJOYED]

I'm curious why you gave isis all 3 maf prs.

[Infinity 324]

Ok, normally I consider rolecop weakish but that makes sense

[PlusJOYED]

I think the first setup I try to run will be Jk9++

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm curious why you gave isis all 3 maf prs.

I’ll let either Isis herself or the scum PT explain

that one

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[PlusJOYED]

I think if I was maf here I would have picked godfather, roleblocker, rolecop

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah that looks pretty dumb though if it turns out to be 3 tricksters instead. That's why I think scum should have full setup info.

[Infinity 324]

The framer seemed pretty scary tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

I definitely would have picked Avenger over Banshee

[Isis]

Yes 3 tricksters 3 Joats seems like a more likely distribution.

Because the setup seemed to have 3 to 4 trackers, I wanted to stack all the roles on one slot (which I would have preferred to be egotisi really but I was willing to volunteer to stress). Each PR on a distinct slot increases the odds of a tracker watching that player and forcing them to fakeclaim some kind of role where they target UTRs, so it's like voluntarily decreasing the number of mafia doctors in a triple gunsmith setup, kind of. Not hard guilties, but difficult results to deal with. Having all the PRs on one slot increases swing, but doesn't affect balance. The faction that is at a disadvantage wants more swing. We just saw that the setup was probably 3 Joats 3 trickster and I felt we were disadvantaged cause that seemed nuts. Therefore swing is desirable.
There's also less flexibility in how to dayplay with the PRs stacked but I still think it's correct to stack the PRs on balance