Shadowrun Mafia - Game Over

[Frozen Angel]

Your action is not unnoticed

this matters becuase of other stuff

can you or can you not enter or leave astral atm?

[Frozen Angel]

I want your answer before mod showing up

and its obvious why

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't know if I can. I sent the mod a pm.

[Frozen Angel]

ty for honesty

was your entering a night action submit ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think I came in the morning.

[Frozen Angel]

hmmm

[SooperDetective]

I did not know it was your action, abr. FA told me it was yours. I only know of the actions, not the players. It makes sense because scum might have fuckery, like the bounty by karnos.

@klingon: my pm clearly states that you can see sent AND received messages, as well as 2 other things. If FA read through it correctly she knows what 2 actions. Jae as well. Is it or isn't it called nerfed agent?

@Abr: is your action exactly called NAR promoter yes or no? I'm not lying, I know what happened and I can confirm both of your visits weren't to fuck with mathblade. Klingon is a rather overpowered investigative, you are a role that is way more useful to town than to scum (scum can strongmanize their kill and get the better out of their powers, but town has way more power) and i find it likely to be town.

@FA you could be right, but we dont know all roles yet (worldz). There might be another possibility. Im not saying KC couldnt be scum, but i have other targets with higher priority (namely, d&d and worldz)

-S

[Frozen Angel]

The way its written in my pm indicates its an action like other abilities. I asked mod that if I was targted by house what would happen to that ability

[Frozen Angel]

I did not know it was your action, abr. FA told me it was yours. I only know of the actions, not the players. It makes sense because scum might have fuckery, like the bounty by karnos.

ABR claimed it twice in the main game thread today. I'm not using any hidden data or claims.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Abr: is your action exactly called NAR promoter yes or no? I'm not lying, I know what happened and I can confirm both of your visits weren't to fuck with mathblade. Klingon is a rather overpowered investigative, you are a role that is way more useful to town than to scum (scum can strongmanize their kill and get the better out of their powers, but town has way more power) and i find it likely to be town.

ya its me

[SooperDetective]

Btw abr

You could kinda guess that investigatives would go to mathbladr because they were shooting karnos
ESPECIALLY roles like me and klingon
So you arent extra town for using your action on mathblade

I still think you are town, i just dont think you should push that as townie.

-S

[Albert B. Rampage]

that's ridiculous

[SooperDetective]

Its just like, if mathblade was scum, they still had to shoot karnos. As scum, you can use your powers to look town. It was pretty obvious all tracker/watcher/voyeur/follower/motion detector kind of roles should have been on mathblade (and they were, unless worldz is one too)

But then again it doesnt matter much, i believe that role makes little sense as scum

-S

[Albert B. Rampage]

im not putting that much thought into this game dude

[Frozen Angel]

i believe that role makes little sense as scum

explain

[SooperDetective]

The only thing they can do with it is empower the powers they have, which is basically kills. Investigatives/protectives/blocks/redirects/... are only bothered by blocking actions, which town has very few of, as far as I know.

With me and KC (giventhat KC is also town) its highly unlikely that that role is given to scum, as it's very easily detectable.

Of course it makes sense if KC is scum because my role doesnt see who does it but hers does, but then you have to believe in a KC-ABR-karnos and maybe another 1 or even 2 scum members

But i think d&d and worldz are scum and i doubt abr would hard defend his scumbud or link his scumbud to me in a possible scumteam.

-S

[Frozen Angel]

but then you have to believe in a KC-ABR-karnos and maybe another 1 or even 2 scum members

explain

[Frozen Angel]

Don't count karnos in the team.

We got the traitor , why if KC is scum , ABR is scum as well?

KC!scum highly suggest ABR!town becuase of the message reveal ; or are you suggesting KC claimed a fake message from his buddy for no reason to make a reason for townreading each other? KC has that role by your claim ; Thats like the worst gamble ever.

[SooperDetective]

But then the roles make little sense, sothey are likely both town.

The roles
Abr is strongmanizer if he were scum (because thats like the only good use of that role if used by scum
Klingon can ... I have to reveal a key part of their role to explain so i wont yet, but trust me that it would be really weird for the mod to make it THAT easy to find scum!abr

So theyre either both town or both scum from my POV and i believ theyre the first
Which is why i REALLY want a d&d or worldz lynch today.

-S

[Albert B. Rampage]

Frozen can still be scum, no? Why have we discounted Frozen?

[SooperDetective]

Because i townread her for her role and other reasons

She can be scum, i just find it way more unlikely than d&d or worldz

-S

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen can still be scum, no? Why have we discounted Frozen?

Cause I am town

Yume was brutally obvious town if you know her and I am town

If you have concerns directly come to me. I am transparent with my reads , thinking process and my scum hunting .

[Frozen Angel]

I have to reveal a key part of their role to explain so i wont yet, but trust me that it would be really weird for the mod to make it THAT easy to find scum!abr

so you mean Scum KC means scum ABR based on role?

I guess thats something that makes her role easier if ABR is scum - but that does not indicate he is scum if she is. If I'm wrong in my assumptions feel free to correct me -

[Albert B. Rampage]

keep in mind kling knew my role since n1 when she intercepted my drixx msg

[SooperDetective]

I have to reveal a key part of their role to explain so i wont yet, but trust me that it would be really weird for the mod to make it THAT easy to find scum!abr

so you mean Scum KC means scum ABR based on role?

I guess thats something that makes her role easier if ABR is scum - but that does not indicate he is scum if she is. If I'm wrong in my assumptions feel free to correct me -

It's just
If abr is scum its unlikely KC is town based on role, because that would basically be a free 'hey here is scum have fun' if the player controlling the slot knows a bit of what theyre doing.
The other way around could actually work with klingon scum abr town as abr's role has little use in finding scum...but that would mean scum have some seriously overpowered investigate. But yeah, scum abr points to scum klingon, but scum klingon not neccesarily scum abr.

I was wrong onthis because i based myself on if x is scum then y is likely scum
So if y is scum x is likely scum
But it doesnt apply here
I just had too much maths and dynamics today urgh

-S

Pedit: what exactly would that change?