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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:47 pm

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Vote Count 1.1
ICEninja (2)
- Mindgamer, XScorpion
Mindgamer (2)
- SaintKerrigan, pwnman
Deer (1)
- Crazy
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- Scott Brosius
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- Deer

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- ICEninja, DarkLightA, fallen angel, RayFrost

With twelve players alive, seven votes are required to lynch.

Deadline falls on Thursday March 18 at 16:50 UTC.
Last edited by Nikanor on Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:15 am

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RV: Scott

for being the only one with a two-word-capitalized name =P

Crazy: Do you prefer townie or doc?
Deer: Do you prefer scum or town?
ICEninja: What's your favorite role, and why?
Mindgamer: What would you do if I voted you right now?
pwnman: Do you play other MMORPGs?
RayFrost: Hi again =) Let's try to get along better this time, eh? XD
SaintKerrigan: Do you prefer ice or fire?
Sanhora: How active are you?
Scott Brosius: Where are you from?
XScorpion: How long have you been here for?

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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:36 am

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Didn't I bus you as my roleblocker last game?

Didn't I also lose that game for us because the guys I replaced were uber obv scum?
don't you feel silly now?
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:40 am

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You're right. I'm confusing you for SensFan ;)

And your second statement is false. They were the ones who lost it for us. =)
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:00 am

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pwnman: Do you play other MMORPGs?
Yep. Mafia on other site and a game called skylords.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:15 am

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ICE wrote:I personally, however, don't like it when people say intentionally wrong things in a mafia game, even in RVS, as it has potential to lead to misinterpretations and confusion. So while I disagree with you feeling like this is a scum slip, I agree with you calling out Mindgamer for that post.
I don't quite follow you... do you think what Mindgamer said was scummy or just something that should be discouraged?
Deer wrote:Mindgamer's post was obviously a joke - let's leave it at that.
Hmm, do you think SK was over-pushing it, then? Do you find that scummy?
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:17 am

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Dark wrote:Crazy: Do you prefer townie or doc?
Random questions are cool, but I don't see how this question could help anybody but scum.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:31 am

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....by getting conversation started :roll:
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:40 am

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DarkLightA wrote:SaintKerrigan: Do you prefer ice or fire?
Ice, because I live in the Frozen North of Minnesota.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:02 am

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Unvote; Vote ICE


Something's off when somebody agrees about calling another player out, while said player didn't call him out even if it's based upon doing a 'bad' thing, which isn't scummy.
Add that both ICE and Deer shouldn't try to stop discussion.

Next time, don't post so much one after the other. Pwn's vote is now hiding in all these posts and nobody took the opportunity to ask for his reason. Pwn, can you state it?

DarkA, how do most of your questions get conversation started? The only two that can be useful are the questions aimed at Mind and me.
To answer it: When I'm not busy, I have the time to post (At least) once a day. 'At least' is between brackets as most players I've played with are in a different timezone.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:23 am

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DarkLightA wrote:....by getting conversation started :roll:
Yes, I understand, but the point of questions is to get to answers/reactions that could be pursued for more answers/reactions. In my case, instead of answering your question, I am choosing to stimulate discussion by objecting to your question. :)

The thing about your question is, if someone says they prefer being scum than town, well, that may lead to something helpful, or it may lead to nothing. With your question, about whether I prefer being townie or doc, that would either lead to nothing, or lead to a discussion that could benefit scum.
Sanhora wrote:Next time, don't post so much one after the other. Pwn's vote is now hiding in all these posts and nobody took the opportunity to ask for his reason. Pwn, can you state it?
Wow, I missed that, too.

I also agree with what you said about ICE; I want him to explain what he meant further.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:09 am

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RayFrost wrote:I'm also not going to post a lot... I think. Not sure on that. Depends on how I feel.
Why say this? Sounds like you are setting this up as an excuse for inactivity later.

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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:21 am

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Crazy wrote: I don't quite follow you... do you think what Mindgamer said was scummy or just something that should be discouraged?
Oh just discouraged. Just throwing out statements in the RVS is fine, but not everyone gets jokes. My response to that vote was obviously also a joke, but I didn't say anything that was intentionally the opposite of what should have been said.

It's mostly just a pet peeve. I'm definitely not going to throw down a vote for it.

To answer the question directed to which role I enjoy the most, I can't really say being that I haven't played enough games to get very many of them. I think I prefer to play town as opposed to scum, however, simply because when you're scum you already know everyone's alignment for the most part. When you are town, you have limited information so there's the thrill of the flip, and the thrill of figuring out new things based on imperfect information. That sort of thing is why I play mafia.

I agree that most of the random questions asked don't help to get conversation started. I'm going to try to have some that do a better job.

RayFrost, what is prompting your desire for a play style change? Did you feel the way you were playing before wasn't good enough?
Sanhora, do you think that pointing out something that is obviously a joke as a joke stifles useful discussion? If so, what do you feel useful about a vote based on someone's joke, declaring it a scumslip?
DarkLight, how do you feel that gaining someone's preferences on roles or other games they play starts discussion? Doesn't it seem too much like rolefishing, as the responses probably aren't going to merit a counter response?
Scott, are you going to be suspicious of RayFrost if he starts lurking later in the game?
pwnman, was your vote on Mindgamer a random vote?
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:33 am

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Pwn's vote is now hiding in all these posts and nobody took the opportunity to ask for his reason. Pwn, can you state it?
My reasons was for Mindgamer's first post.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:56 pm

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Scott Brosius wrote:
RayFrost wrote:I'm also not going to post a lot... I think. Not sure on that. Depends on how I feel.
Why say this? Sounds like you are setting this up as an excuse for inactivity later.

I am from NY.
Eh, people are used to me posting a lot.

Lately, I haven't had the energy.

So I'm stating that I'm breaking my meta for this game.

btw

Not posting a lot != inactivity
don't you feel silly now?
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:05 pm

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Pwnman, did you think that was a slip because Mindgamer is an Ice Mafia? (SaintKerrigan's argument) Or is there some other reason why you think that post is scummy?
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:34 pm

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I think that he is either Ice Mafia or Fire Mafia. So yeah
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:14 pm

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XScorpion: How long have you been here for?
Well, the date next to my name says August 2009 so I'll go with that.
pwnman's argument sucks.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:40 pm

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Well, the date next to my name says August 2009 so I'll go with that.
pwnman's argument sucks.
unvote
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My arguement aswell as SK's is this
pwnman wrote:
Pwn's vote is now hiding in all these posts and nobody took the opportunity to ask for his reason. Pwn, can you state it?
My reasons was for Mindgamer's first post.
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You just saying my arguement "sucks" makes an even worse arguement against me.

unvote

vote XScorpion
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:18 pm

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Vote Count 1.2
ICEninja (2)
- Mindgamer, Sanhora
Mindgamer (1)
- SaintKerrigan
Deer (1)
- Crazy
fallen angel (1)
- Scott Brosius
Sanhora (1)
- Deer
Scott Brosius (1)
- DarkLightA
pwnman (1)
- XScorpion
XScorpion (1)
- pwnman

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- ICEninja, fallen angel, RayFrost

With twelve players alive, seven votes are required to lynch.

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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:02 pm

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pwnman wrote:
Well, the date next to my name says August 2009 so I'll go with that.
pwnman's argument sucks.
unvote
Vote:pwnman
My arguement aswell as SK's is this
pwnman wrote:
Pwn's vote is now hiding in all these posts and nobody took the opportunity to ask for his reason. Pwn, can you state it?
My reasons was for Mindgamer's first post.
Vote ICE

Obvouisly Fire Mafia
You just saying my arguement "sucks" makes an even worse arguement against me.

unvote

vote XScorpion
for the OMGUS vote
[/quote]

And you piggybacking off someone's argument, who barely explained it is not good. You are either being VI or scum with that and blatant OMGUS

ICE- With the explanation, I am a little less concerned about it, but will keep an eye on the activity level for him.

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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:58 pm

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@DLA - I like playing as town better than scum. Less lying and I generally feel more secure.

@pwnman and SK - I really dislike it when obvious jokes in RVS are taken as scumslips or whatnot. Last game I replaced into, people made a huge deal about a joke someone made in RVS (something like "you're at L-3, please claim now"). And all it did, honestly, was waste time. I'm not trying to stop discussion - in fact, I find SK and pwnman slightly scummy for taking that joke as a scumslip in the first place. Both of you, why do you consider that a scumtell?

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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:48 pm

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I am also quite noob myself, is a village idiot a role that isn't anywhere in the wiki, or is it simply a town player who is anti-town?
If you looked it up in the wiki, why do you need to ask? >_>
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:05 am

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Tsk, grow some humour you guys.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:36 am

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@ Deer: I considered it a slip of the tongue.

At the same time, I think I finally got the joke (ICEninja being a Fire Mafia is obviously self-contradictory, to the point where it's funny).
Unvote: Mindgamer. Vote: Pwnman
because him thinking Mindgamer could be either Fire Mafia or Ice Mafia means he isn't actually agreeing with my argument, which was that Mindgamer was Ice Mafia, specifically. He was just using my argument as an excuse to vote Mindgamer, and that's fishy.
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