Open 401: Fight or Flight (Game Over)

[Not Sure If Scum]

Aaaand we're in RVS.
>.<

[drmyshotgun]

Aaaand we're in RVS.
>.<

Why do you dislike RVS? I'm sure as hell its one thing that gets people to talk.

[Katsuki]

Lynch all liars. You lied about having a Daykill albeit a blatant one.

Ok yeah I'm happy with my vote.

[Not Sure If Scum]

I just think it's silly. But I guess that's just my opinion.

[drmyshotgun]

Lynch all liars. You lied about having a Daykill albeit a blatant one.

Ok yeah I'm happy with my vote.

Lol, and you are happy with your Daykill? XD

[drmyshotgun]

Oh, plus, you need to get my name right. Just sayin'

[Katsuki]

What you need is bullets not a name change shotty.

And no I'm not happy that Hoopla didn't give me a daykill.

[drmyshotgun]

Bullets...To kill me?
Now you are admitting that you don't have a daykill.

[Not Sure If Scum]

Katsuki: Why was it worth making a double post to change the why to how? It seems unimportant to me.

[Hoopla]

Day 1, Vote Count #2

With seven alive, it takes

4

votes to lynch. Deadline is scheduled for 11:00 GMT, May 15th <Countdown>.

Katsuki -

2

(vijay2vasandani, drmyshotgun)

drmyshotgun -

1

(Katsuki)

Not voting -

4

(Dazzy, Nobody Special, Not Sure If Scum, Milk)

[vijay2vasandani]

I'll just open this can of worms: Since this is a new, never-before-played setup, is theory and strategy discussion here bad/good, scummy/townish, null/void?

I see opinions, then we may or may not pontificate upon Theory.

Well since you opened this can of worms, let's hear your thoughts on the setup

[vijay2vasandani]

Also, I have to say that NS' post came out as slightly too cautious for my liking. Actually,

VOTE: Nobody Special

[drmyshotgun]

I think we need to strategize before the Night begins.
Like who shoots who and stuff.

[Not Sure If Scum]

I think we need to strategize before the Night begins.
Like who shoots who and stuff.

Won't people who know they will be shot just commute?

I guess it could still be worth doing because on Night 2 we'd know who has commuted/who hasn't. Honestly though, I'm tempted to just say everyone do whatever they like and we'll see what happens. I'll think about it a bit more later.

[drmyshotgun]

Exactly. If you are Town you should accept your sacrifice. Scum will commute.

Hmm...Wait, I may not have thought this through entirely yet. But getting two people to shoot each other sounds like a plan.

[Nobody Special]

I think we need to strategize before the Night begins.
Like who shoots who and stuff.

Won't people who know they will be shot just commute?

I guess it could still be worth doing because on Night 2 we'd know who has commuted/who hasn't. Honestly though, I'm tempted to just say everyone do whatever they like and we'll see what happens. I'll think about it a bit more later.

This could be a useful plan....


This just feels like a setup that could be engineered by town to secure a win.

I'm not the one to engineer it, though. (I don't get mafia strategy. I'm just here to have fun.)

[drmyshotgun]

Yeah, the balance of strength overwhelms Scum on this one.
Not that I care much. I love to

win

.
So, anyone with a cleverly devised plan should speak up.
Maybe if we form a master-plan, we don't even need a lynch in Day 1.

[vijay2vasandani]

Yeah.. I'm calling NS-shotgun scumteam. I have an idea that might work but I need to think it through for a while.

[drmyshotgun]

I'm happy to be the lab rat if you have suspicion on me.

[vijay2vasandani]

Actually it won't work. I was thinking everybody picks a target and then nobody commute. But I realised scum would just commute and all town would die. I'll think of something else.

[Not Sure If Scum]

Ugh. I'm too lazy for this. Maybe later, although I will share my thoughts on the stuff that's been brought up.

@Drmy: The idea of getting two scummy people to shoot each other sounds good objectively, but I don't think I'd really feel like cooperating if I was one of them, especially if I didn't really think my target was scum. Do you think you would?

[Milk]

I don't think this game is breakable. We all have literally the same role, so town has no strong advantage that can ensure a win.

If we have 2 scummy people shoot each other, three outcomes are possible:
2 townies: Assuming the townies are honest, we'll end up with 2 dead townies.
2 mafia: Neither will shoot each other and shoot someone else or do nothing.
1 mafia and 1 town: The scum would just not shoot the townie while using a commute, leaving both of them to be alive.

So that's not an option.

[Katsuki]

Just a note that this game is a variant of Texas Justice(?) with the design to PREVENT the same game-breaking that was involved in the setup for that (inclusion of one-shot commute).

I've given it some thought but so far I haven't really thought of anything.

[Dazzy]

I had an idea but it is less effective in light of there only being 7 players.

The idea being our second scummiest shooting our scummiest after no-lynching.

[drmyshotgun]

I don't think this game is breakable. We all have literally the same role, so town has no strong advantage that can ensure a win.

If we have 2 scummy people shoot each other, three outcomes are possible:
2 townies: Assuming the townies are honest, we'll end up with 2 dead townies.
2 mafia: Neither will shoot each other and shoot someone else or do nothing.
1 mafia and 1 town: The scum would just not shoot the townie while using a commute, leaving both of them to be alive.

So that's not an option.

Perhaps you are right. Given that this is a new setup we are sort of the guinea pigs, but yeah, don't think they'd make it too easy for us.
But I'll give it more thought.