Mini 1484 - Pick Your Partners (Game Over)

[Does Bo Know]

GNR, you saying we should target wolves before we touch Mafia?

Because I am not down with that.

[Does Bo Know]

Actually yes I am.

As long as we lynch a Werewolf D1. If we lynch a townie, we might be doomed to chase Mafia forever.

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

I misread this. My apologies. I need to be more careful when I post before fully awake.

I'm down with lynching scum. After that, we can make preferences if we're lucky enough to catch scum.

[T S O]

As for discussing our lists, I don't think we should. I think it kinda ruins the point of scumhunting and such.

Elaborate on this.

[T S O]

GNR says we should post lists.

Lol nope. This is entirely 100% incorrect and I'm surprised you haven't realized this yet.

You could have said the flip flop was solely to start conversation, but it wasn't; otherwise you would have said that.

Discuss

Lol that's exactly what I did.

Hence

50% factually incorrect
50% false assumption
100% awful suspicion

Hooray

Okay, now you've got that out of your system, what's your reasoning on not posting lists?

[Does Bo Know]

Easy.

Scum can bullshit the lists. Some scum have day talk, right? Gives them an even better opportunity to coordinate their own lists, even with popcorn.

And townies that don't bullshit their lists could reveal likely Masons, so there's that.

Finally, we don't know exactly how IceGuy calculated partners.

Tell me why it would be useful for everyone to post lists. I'm open to it if it trumps everything I just said.

Gut doesn't feel right on 27. Titus uses scum twice in a sentence, not even referring to a faction. Not faction-indicative, but that seems totally fake. However, that's strictly gut now, considering Titus admitting her mistake in voting me.

Ummmm I actually don't have any better candidates to vote though. I think Mutley's town for certain reasons. And the Guy Named Riggs vote was just a wagon. Garantula vote was for boredom, I was hoping it would spark discussion (it worked!) and I don't really have suspicion of anyone else.

[Haschel Cedricson]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Garantula

Discuss

DING DING DING DING DING

Vote: Garantula

[Does Bo Know]

Actually, post 27 if anything makes me think that Titus isn't a werewolf. Just read it again, that's pretty much all I'm getting from it.

(Where have I heard that before?)

UNVOTE: Titus

Gah I quit, no more voting right now.

[Does Bo Know]

Hey Haschel

Wyd there buddy

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Mutleyddmc (3): T S O, Mutleyddmc, nickthename

Natirasha (1): Natirasha
Guy_Named_Riggs (1): Egg
Egg (1): Guy_Named_Riggs
DrDolittle (1): TheGarantula
TheGarantula (1): Haschel Cedricson

Not voting (5): Titus, DrDolittle, Pjovek, Varsoon, Does Bo Know

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is September 1st, 2 p.m. CEST.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Hey Haschel

Wyd there buddy

I'm not ignoring this, but I don't know what "Wyd" means.

Also, we esentially have 3 factions. One has a nightkill, so they should probably be found first. Finding mafia can wait. I'm loading my gun with silver bullets and going werewolf hunting

I want to know how you propose to do that.

[Titus]

Actually, post 27 if anything makes me think that Titus isn't a werewolf. Just read it again, that's pretty much all I'm getting from it.

(Where have I heard that before?)

UNVOTE: Titus

Gah I quit, no more voting right now.

This post treads dangerously close to discussing on-going games. You post this KNOWING I cannot respond ("Where have I seen this before?"). Blah.

You reason for voting me is shit. Using the word scum twice in a sentence? Total bullshit. Mine at least made sense if I hadn't misread the thread.

[Titus]

@DBK, you also say that we should lynch a wolf D1 but that I'm not a wolf. Yet you vote me.

VOTE: DBK

[Titus]

You caught yourself and unvoted quickly but basically, you are scum. Sorry man.

[Does Bo Know]

You caught yourself and unvoted quickly but basically, you are scum. Sorry man.

Lol k

You're really grasping for reasons to vote me aren't you?

[Does Bo Know]

@DBK, you also say that we should lynch a wolf D1 but that I'm not a wolf. Yet you vote me.

VOTE: DBK

I reached the "you're not wolf" conclusion in the same post I unvoted you.

Yeah, gut's usually bullshit around here, but I didn't find any reason to unvote you at that time. Then I thought you weren't wolf and told myself, "Well, I'm not voting her today." And from there I still can't decide what to do with my vote.

Sorry about that little comment, couldn't resist, it won't happen again.

@Haschel: Wyd means "what you doing?"

[Haschel Cedricson]

I'm agreeing with Post 17 and voting for TheGarantula.

Thought that was pretty obvious.

[Does Bo Know]

I was being facetious when I asked what you were doing.

I was wondering why you switched your vote to Garantula, but then I realized you hadn't posted yet. So I guess that's a random vote, oy?

[Haschel Cedricson]

No?

The game had obviously moved past that stage before I showed up. Why would I want to go back to it?

[Does Bo Know]

Okay. So your vote on Garantula has a reason behind it, since it isn't random right?

My post 17 doesn't have a reason in it. Yet you agreed with the post.

I'm confused.

[Mutleyddmc]

DBK is scum.

[Haschel Cedricson]

It DIDN'T?

Now I'm confused.

There are valid reasons why we shouldn't claim our lists, as you mentioned in a post that I'm not gonna bother scrolling up to cite. TheGarantula chose not to address any of those issues and instead argue that claiming lists would "ruin the fun". He even agrees that a mass list claim "might help". If he thinks it will be helpful, then he should have no problem doing it. If he has a problem doing it, then it should be a better reason than some e-honor "ruining the fun" excuse.

This is a theme game. Discussion about the mechanics is an inevitable part of it. TheGarantula wants that avenue shut down, NOT because of town reasons (i.e. it may not actually help the town) but because of scum-motivated reasons (i.e. "I don't want to get caught THAT way".

I assumed you were thinking similar thoughts.

[Egg]

While I'm sure that sharing our preferences might help, it would kind of run the fun.

Unvote, Vote TheGar

By the way, the Mod never answered. Is it allowed?

Scum can bullshit the lists. Some scum have day talk, right? Gives them an even better opportunity to coordinate their own lists, even with popcorn.

If three townies flip and have the same name at the top of their list, isn't it more likely that that player is town?

Haschel, what do you think of Bo and Guy?

Bo, you seemed to pretty clearly have a reason for voting TheGar and Haschel and I both picked up the same tell we seem to both think you picked up. What am I missing here?

Also, can we discuss the merits of a Day 1 policy lynch considering the list aspect of the game?

preview edit: yeah, Haschel pretty much sums it up.

[Does Bo Know]

I told Titus I changed my vote because I was bored and it might've started conversation. Sorry if you thought there was reason.

But your reason does make sense. I'll hop on dat, nothing better to do.

VOTE: TheGarantula

@Mutley: Why am I scum?

PEdit: Egg, that would be one reason to reveal lists, sure. But in my opinion, it doesn't trump my reasons for not revealing lists. Sorry.

[Does Bo Know]

Apparently people thought I had the same reasoning for voting Garantula.

I would've said something if it were a more serious vote.