Newbie 1682: GAME OVER

[MeNowDealWithIt]

Naked votes are a way of saying "I want someone to be lynched for no reason." Lynching should always have some sort of reason behind it.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Adenine

Two can play that game pigeon breath.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is how I feel about your votes on me.

[Aneninen]

Hi, I'm the IC of this game.
Finally, I have some time for playing, so it's time for do my job.

Click this:

Spoiler: IC Stuff

(1) The most important thing you must know:

regardless of my alignment I never lie in these spoilers. Never.

Keep in mind that this goes only for the spoilers labelled as "IC Stuff". Any other spoilers are part of the game.
This point goes in the other direction too:

I will not use the fact that I'm the IC of this game in my reasoning.

(I may build upon my previous experience about things but that's different – after all, there are other players here with some experience.)

(2) The sooner you're familiar with the commonly used expressions and abbreviations, the better.
Here are two pages about this topic:
Glossary
Commonly Used Abbreviations
Also, it's normal that players use short forms of each other's names. You'll get familiar with these too and feel free to use them. However, if you're voting, make it sure that it's clear for the Mod [the one who's in charge of this particular game] whom you are voting for.


(3) You're going to find plenty of useful tips and guides on the MafiaWiki. It's best to bookmark this page:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

You'll find plenty of tips and articles there, but keep in mind that MafiaWiki is

not

all-powerful. Some of the pages are outdated. (For example, you can find some old newbie games there, which used a different Setup than this one does.)

(4) Before you start to think so, I'm telling this:

role PMs are totally random

. Some says that newbies don't get town PRs or SEs and the IC are more likely scum than others.

Wrong!

Everyone has the

same

chance for getting a certain role. (What are PRs? Just check the page about Abbreviations ^_^)

(5) Get familiar with the post editor. For example, if you want to make a spoiler like this, use the "spoiler=" icon. You can also name your spoiler by adding some text after the "="

Once you submit a post you're unable to change it anymore!

(6)

This Is Mafiascum.

Some of you may have played on different forums and/or In Real Life games. Trust me,

online games are very different from IRL games and there are major differences between forums

. Your other site / IRL experience is worth

much less

than you think. I've made this mistake in my first newbie. Since I've just explained this, you needn't make the very same mistake. ^_^
For example, on certain forums if someone gets wagoned, most likely they get lynched on that very Day. It rarely happens on MafiaScum and it's especially uncommon on Day1.

(7)

If you're town, do not ever self-vote nor self-hammer.

In a nutshell: if you're getting lynched as a townie, you're 100% sure that it'll be a mislynch. You want to lynch scum and by self-voting you go for a 0% chance. (On the other hand, there are situations when a self-hammer is not a bad strategy as a scum. Very, very rarely you might come across situations when it's viable for a townie to self-vote but those situations don't show up in a Newbie.)

(8)

Do not claim your role without a reason!

In general, don't claim if you're not forced to do so.
What does that mean? If you're at L–1 (the next vote on you will lynch you) and someone intents to hammer (wants to vote for you), claim! Even if you get Nightkilled most probably if you have a PR, you may avoid getting lynched, which is useful.

This rule goes for Vanilla Townies too!

Consider this: if you're not forced to do so but you still claim being a VT you make for the scum easier to find the town PRs.
If you have a town-PR and you have enough bits of useful infromation, you may consider claiming earlier – however, this

never

happens on Day1 in a Newbie game. Finding the right moment for claiming is tricky, though. I may post more about this later.

(9) Should you have any questions about rules, game theory, etc., fire them away! About these topics I'll always tell the truth. (And I'll use the same spoiler-format.) There will be more IC-posts later, but I don't want to over-burden anyone.

(10) Because I'm the IC here, this game will be my top priority. This means, if I have very little time and I can post only in one single game, this will be the one. Regardless of my alignment here or anywhere else, obivously.

[Smudger]

This is how I feel about your votes on me.

[Smudger]

Hey RC.... How are you?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm good.

How are you?

[Aneninen]

ohhhhhh a wagon. I like wagons especially if its RC.
VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I seriously disliked this vote. Since you're an SE you

must

know wagoning a player who hasn't posted anything are anti-town.

It's RC, we have history, why do you ask?

I know, I would ask also... you don't know RC then?

These aren't an explanation.

I'm currently playing in a game in which he is part of a hydra. that's the extent of my experience with him.

As far as I know, THIS should be removed because of the Site Rules.

Spoiler: IC Stuff

IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO (1) refer to, (2) quote or (3) link an ongoing game, EVEN IF YOU OR THE PLAYER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS DEAD THERE!
Just don't do it.

Even if you think it's insignificant, it may be important for someone in either of the games.

Here's a fictional example for this. Let's say, these are two posts in a game called HyperCube Mini:

Syreen: Hey, Aneninen, why do you think the Night phase of Ur-Quan Masters Mafia hasn't ended yet?

Aneninen: No idea, the Mod must be away from the site or whatever.

It seems to be harmless, isn't it?
However, if anyone playing Ur-Quan Masters Mafia reads this post (and they are allowed to read it!), they can find a valuable piece of information. Namely: Syreen and Aneninen are

not

scums together in Ur-Quan Masters Mafia. (If they were, they could have made this dialogue in the Mafia QT there!!!)

(Of course, the dialogue is fabricated. As far as I know there's no player who's named Syreen and there's no Ur-Quan Masters Mafia nor HyperCube Mini at all.)

Also not putting someone at L-1 quite yet.

there is so much wrong with this
VOTE: MNDWI

What was so wrong?
Also, RC wasn't at L–1.

I remember reading that naked votes are frowned upon.

It was still RVS. (Random Voting Stage. Check the Glossary!)
It's typical to vote without (or with obviously silly reasoning) at RVS. The fact that Smudger's vote was a

third

vote on Page 1, that's a different thing, though.

VOTE: Adenine
Two can play that game pigeon breath.

Now I would have been surprised if you hadn't voted for me. ^_^
Cool picture!

[RadiantCowbells]

Your reasons for voting Smudger are pretty underwhelming.

[Aneninen]

Your reasons for voting Smudger are pretty underwhelming.

?
I'm not voting for Smudger right now.

[Aneninen]

Also, your wagon has been too fast to my taste.
UNVOTE:

[Aneninen]

*for my taste.
Shyt.
I need to rest a bit.

[UpTooLate]

Interesting, as I've often seen wagons on pg 1. Maybe not so much newbie games, but it's definitely not unusual.

[Smudger]

I'm good RC


Aneninen, explain how it's anti town please, I see no problem with it. I do though have a problem with your statement, I consider it BS

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay I have a legitimate scumread on Adenine right now.
I'm onto you, bird brain.
This is war.

[Smudger]

UNVOTE:

[Karnage]

Also not putting someone at L-1 quite yet.

there is so much wrong with this
VOTE: MNDWI

What was so wrong?
Also, RC wasn't at L–1.

Nobody said he was

[Karnage]

whats with all the pidgeon talk?

[Edgedancer]

Hello, everyone! Good luck!

I feel like not wanting to put someone at L-1 is perfectly reasonable considering I've read newbie games where someone hammered by accident.

[MeNowDealWithIt]

I feel like I should contribute something right now, but I don't know what.

[Karnage]

Hello, everyone! Good luck!

I feel like not wanting to put someone at L-1 is perfectly reasonable considering I've read newbie games where someone hammered by accident.

sure but he was under no pressure to vote RC there but felt the need to justify his not voting him anyway

[MeNowDealWithIt]

sure but he was under no pressure to vote RC there but felt the need to justify his not voting him anyway

I felt like I was under pressure because of the huge bandwagon.

[Aneninen]

Aneninen, explain how it's anti town please, I see no problem with it. I do though have a problem with your statement, I consider it BS

Eg. this game. You only need to check Page1.

Okay I have a legitimate scumread on Adenine right now.
I'm onto you, bird brain.
This is war.

So be it.

whats with all the pidgeon talk?

That's a very long story.
In short: it's a "When arch enemies meet again ^_^ " situation.
Not an alignment tell on either of us.

I feel like not wanting to put someone at L-1 is perfectly reasonable considering I've read newbie games where someone hammered by accident.

I feel like not wanting to like this post. Noone is near to L–1.

I feel like I should contribute something right now, but I don't know what.

FZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

[Karnage]

sure but he was under no pressure to vote RC there but felt the need to justify his not voting him anyway

I felt like I was under pressure because of the huge bandwagon.

UNVOTE:
I can see why you would feel that.

I feel like I should contribute something right now, but I don't know what.

re-read, look for statements/actions that don't make sense coming from a town perspective or don't benefit town. if you see something, comment on it. If you like their response then fine, if not, then maybe you found scum and you should vote for them.

[Radja]

*cough*