ROAP! 1! 2! LOW LANDS WENT DOWN! this was Micro 413 btw

[fuzzybutternut]

but now that I look back, TSs initial vote on Eek (the one that got him lynched) seems very bussy.

It just seemed to come out of nowhere.

Likewise, TTHs vote didn't make much sense to me either, but I can understand the reasoning behind it.

TS said he'd be okay with either Me or Eek lynched, then voted Eek. TTH unvoted eek to vote TS, only to revote Eek two posts later. I personally find that more town motivated than anything.

[TierShift]

Actually, TTH's voting pattern is the only thing that springs to mind when I think about why he's scum.

Reread tomorrow.

[TellTaleHeart]

he said he'd be okay with my lynch. That doesn't sound like a strongest townread.

You're misstating it.

Fuzzy said he would only vote you if it was "what needed to happen." I'm guessing to avoid a no-lynch. From this I also gather that he was like me in that he thought majority was needed to lynch.

[TellTaleHeart]

Who do you think fuzzy would choose, then?

You and Dessew.
The mistrust shown yesterday ran pretty deep. You were a staple scumread of his and you, in turn, said that you weren't townreading him after you read his ISO.

Me and fuzzy would be the optimal choice for you.
I gave reason to distrust fuzzy. And he thought you were town for all of yesterday so I would be scum by process of elimination. Fuzzy's first post today proves this.

VOTE: TierShift

[TierShift]

Well, no.

Eek wasn't bussing yesterday, that much was clear.
The only logical three to take into lylo is us, for all of us here.

[TierShift]

I don't see what fuzzy's first post proves.

he said he'd be okay with my lynch. That doesn't sound like a strongest townread.

You're misstating it.

Fuzzy said he would only vote you if it was "what needed to happen." I'm guessing to avoid a no-lynch. From this I also gather that he was like me in that he thought majority was needed to lynch.

That's not how I read it, but that doesn't matter for shit now.

Fuzzy, I'll shoot you if you hammer.

[TellTaleHeart]

Aunt's house burned down, been helping her clean shit up, so life's been busy. Sorry.

23 hours until Deadline.

I don't think TS should be the lynch today, but I'll go with it if it needs to happen.

Gonna re-read as much as possible tonight.

Please tell me your interpretation of this.

This is reluctance. This is someone who would only vote you if he had to but he didn't want to.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm here.
Uhh
So.

One of you two is scum.
I'm confirmed not scum.

Todays lynch is vengeful, right?

P-Edit: I've had this open since before I left for the job interview this morning - You were the main wagon when I posted that yesterday. A no-lynch wouldn't have given us any information, therefore I stated that, if it meant a lynch would go through that day, I would vote the main wagon. You just so happened to be that wagon.

Regardless, I'm not scum

[fuzzybutternut]

Holy shit it's my scumday.
:O

[fuzzybutternut]

Fuzzy, I'll shoot you if you hammer.

noted.

[TierShift]

Fuzzy, I'll shoot you if you hammer.

noted.

That's not a threat. It's more of a reminder not to quickhammer until I've reread.

Which will happen tomorrow, not today. Sorry guys.

Also, happy scumday, I saw it yesterday already.

[TierShift]

Aunt's house burned down, been helping her clean shit up, so life's been busy. Sorry.

23 hours until Deadline.

I don't think TS should be the lynch today, but I'll go with it if it needs to happen.

Gonna re-read as much as possible tonight.

Please tell me your interpretation of this.

This is reluctance. This is someone who would only vote you if he had to but he didn't want to.

My interpretation was this:
'There are other people who I want to lynch more, but I don't really give a shit about getting them lynched and will vote deadline wagons'.
It was more indifference to my lynch than anything else. If he had had a real townread on me, he'd have actively pushed another wagon.

This is basically the same as what fuzzy actually meant.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Official Vote Count

TierShift

(1): TellTaleHeart

Not Voting

(2): TierShift, fuzzybutternut

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2014-11-27 07:54:07)

[fuzzybutternut]

Well, listen.

Either one of you can be scum.
I don't know who it is, but here's my theory:
Whichever one of you is scum isn't going to want to be lynched. So whichever one of you that may be can either A.) Sacrifice yourself or B.) Don't, and get venged.

Fact of the matter is: I'm not scum. IF you two want to lynch me, so be it, but I'm not saying who I'd shoot right now.
Since it seems that I'm going to be the deciding hammer, I want a consensus from both of you.

Tier: IF I hammer you, you MUST shoot TTH. No if ands or buts about it.
TTH: IF I hammer you, you MUST shoot Tier. No if ands or buts about it.

This is auto-town win if you follow the above.

[TellTaleHeart]

I've had this open since before I left for the job interview this morning - You were the main wagon when I posted that yesterday. A no-lynch wouldn't have given us any information, therefore I stated that, if it meant a lynch would go through that day, I would vote the main wagon. You just so happened to be that wagon.

That's what I thought.

It was more indifference to my lynch than anything else. If he had had a real townread on me, he'd have actively pushed another wagon.

fuzzy hasn't been pushing much of anything this game so I'm not sure how that prediction came about.

[TellTaleHeart]

Tier: IF I hammer you, you MUST shoot TTH. No if ands or buts about it.
TTH: IF I hammer you, you MUST shoot Tier. No if ands or buts about it.

This is auto-town win if you follow the above.

My vote likely isn't moving from TierShift and if lynched, I will vengekill TierShift.

[TellTaleHeart]

That's true, on the condition that there's actually stuff to talk about. I don't think I could have got anything alignment-indicative out of you with the information present and that we'd rather talk in circles. That's why I waited to see what the new guys had to say. And they still haven't done shit, although TTH is givong me badfeels. I should move my vote there.

VOTE: tth
Tth, what's your opinion on fuzzy?

Dessew, whose entrance (tth or eek) looks scummier to you? Why?

I was also looking back at TierShift's ISO and I saw that Eek and I were both called out for being lurkers early in the game but I was the one who TierShift ended up voting for the vague reason "badfeels."

[fuzzybutternut]

In that case, I see no harm in voting you, as TS is likely to not hammer you if scum, and if she isn't scum, then we still win when you are hammered. Right now it's just a matter of who's getting lynched today.

[fuzzybutternut]

However, I'm not voting anyone until we decide who's getting lynched.

[TierShift]

reading.

That's true, on the condition that there's actually stuff to talk about. I don't think I could have got anything alignment-indicative out of you with the information present and that we'd rather talk in circles. That's why I waited to see what the new guys had to say. And they still haven't done shit, although TTH is givong me badfeels. I should move my vote there.

VOTE: tth
Tth, what's your opinion on fuzzy?

Dessew, whose entrance (tth or eek) looks scummier to you? Why?

I was also looking back at TierShift's ISO and I saw that Eek and I were both called out for being lurkers early in the game but I was the one who TierShift ended up voting for the vague reason "badfeels."

Why are you summing up my interactions with eek instead of showing why they are buddy interactions? Would me voting Eek for "badfeels" have made me look any better in your eyes?

I bet the answer is no.

Get your head out of your confbias asshole.

[fuzzybutternut]

*sigh* listen.

There's really no need to drag this day on longer than it needs to be.
Really, all we have to do is decide which one of you we're lynching..
TS - are you okay with being lynched?

[TierShift]

I tried to make a stupid joke, then got tangled in it, the rest is princess bride.

Heh

/shrug. It's only a tiny read, really.

He's a cool guy though.

Upon a reread I really hate this post. It sets a precedent for fencesitting.

I'm iffy about droog now.
Fairly certain Tier is town though. Time will tell, I suppose.

Hi Eek, nice of you to join us.
Not sure what I think of Dessews play. Null, I guess.
Would like to hear more from TTH and Eek.

Which he's doing badly here.

That's all?

A good majority of his posts are fluff. I don't really know what you expect me to get from that.

But then again, I like the relaxed tone of this post.

I'm sorry, is this an attempt at interacting with me and understanding my behaviour or just applying your shitty scumtells?

Neither. Reading your posts from the first few pages is giving me an understanding of your behavior and I haven't applied "scumtells" anywhere.

The picture I'm getting of your behavior is that you like to use buzzword-loaded rhetoric, probably in an attempt to sound authoritative. That can come from someone of either alignment and I'm not here to judge for that by itself, but I expect this attitude to carry over into the reads. The confident veneer seems to go away when it comes to your reads because they're all an inch deep. You can drop jargon in places like, "You can get newbscum vibes even from something an experienced player is doing." and "Why is fuzzy null? He has some content." but when it comes to the vote, you have a justification of "badfeels" and there's a lot of fogginess surrounding the droog and Dessew read.

If I'm wrong about any of this, please feel free to correct me. You didn't correct me on my previous assessment though, so I don't think I am.

I have a hard time seeing this post coming from scum. It's full of town being completely satisfied with his own thought process and not being afraid to get into a fight with someone he sees as scum.

[TierShift]

There's a few things that I'd like to discuss with post 173. Let's start with the Dessew read.

scum

.

dessew

. The interaction between droog and dessew is entertaining but only usable if either one flips scum. What pinged my radar first is the vote switch to fuzzy in 46. It seems a bit too generous in emotions (english fail). The combination of a "wtf. vote" with "please be careful, it'"s l-2" and "but quicklynch=scum" is being very too safe while not being too safe. I hope that made sense... Not to mention I don't understand the vote switch. The switch back to tier is interesting given the first point I made about dessew, but given more credibility because of dessew's stance towards tier after he voted him: indifferent (coincidentally the reason he's voting tier).

I hope that made sense...

I hate to be the one to dash your hopes, but it didn't.
Specifically, this read doesn't quite fit together with the other ones. If you can think of reasons why fuzzy and/or TierShift could be scum (you provided a few), what's your issue with Dessew's voting pattern?

Did you think eek was scummy for his attack of dessew?

Well, I'm not now. There's a part of me that thinks it's you/TierShift, but I'll take the leap of faith.

VOTE: MME
He was on this morning and didn't post anything, which is weird for someone who requested the deadline extension.

This reads like a bus vote.

It's a trick.

VOTE: TierShift

I'm probably not going to be on in the next 2 hours.
VOTE: MME

I don't understand this at all. Can you explain?

[TierShift]

okay, and fuzzy just has no interaction with MME at all.

Hmm.
I was gonna come into this day and vote TTH, but I forgot it was Lylo.

Regardless, I think TTH is scum

but now that I look back, TSs initial vote on Eek (the one that got him lynched) seems very bussy.

It just seemed to come out of nowhere.

Likewise, TTHs vote didn't make much sense to me either, but I can understand the reasoning behind it.

TS said he'd be okay with either Me or Eek lynched, then voted Eek. TTH unvoted eek to vote TS, only to revote Eek two posts later. I personally find that more town motivated than anything.

fuzzy seems to be keeping his options open

I want your thought process on who's scum out of us, fuzzy. Not just, the game allows for you both to die so let's do that.

[TierShift]

Oh and I just realised I would so have taken droog to lylo instead of you, tth.

Both somewhat scumread each other.