Micro 121: SS9 (Game over!)

[Lincolm]

For now, I will observe first. I just can't handle my emotion every time I come to this thread. Please be patient.

[Malakittens]

I think you are overdoing it with this emotion thing. If you didn't want Wisdom lynched you should have presented a case on someone you thought was scum. I'm starting to seriously think you are now faking it.

[Lincolm]

Could be. I already push Slimer, no one noticed it.

[Malakittens]

You didn't get noticed because your vote wasn't on Slimer. Your vote IS your voice. If you don't use both tools - you can't whine when you don't succeed.

[Lincolm]

I guess you right. I just give my analyze then. Sorry if I'm being jerk here.

[Lincolm]

This was apart of our plan anyway.

Okay, there is 3 people who don't want to lynch Wisdom. 4 wanted to do it. According to Slimer, Wisdom's lynch is what scum wanted.Read above.

For now, I will not look Malakittens and Cheery Dog. I don't think that 4 towns going to lynch Wisdom with all that vague reasoning. There at least 1 another mafia who push Wisdom lynch. Maybe 2 also. You might assume the scum back off with Wisdom lynch also, but I don't think that scum can predict 4 town going to lynch Wisdom, they must be clairvoyant if yes.

Yes, you and wisdom are both newbies too although wisdom seems to have a better grasp on the game than either you or slimer. This isn't really relevant though.

No, it is relevant. You think Slimer is newbie. In my eyes, you protected Slimer because he is newbie, but you don't think about that in Wisdom and me. Why?

Wisdom's logic is pretty horrible, but I can't tell the difference between Wisdomscum bad logic and Wisdomtown bad logic.

Tell me why his logic is horrible.

No, it tellis us that it was a part of your plan for you to "use" it.

Tell me why it is Cheery's plan. Why not someone else?

Most players besides Lincolm were okay with that hammer plan because it was on the benefit of town rather than scum because town could control the way the hammer goes down.

Maybe they want to lynch Wisdom because the most aware with the plan is me and Wisdom.

I think Kmd is probably town as his actions re: the hammer don't make sense as scum.

You thought Cheery's fake hammer maybe scum wanted to get towncreed, but in here you don't think Kmd might be bluffing? Why?

(Huntress is town.)

Why Huntress is town?

@ALL :

I want all of you give your thought about this (Cheery already said it):

This was apart of our plan anyway.

[implosion]

Vote count 2.1:

Kmd4390 - 1 (Cheery Dog)
Cheery Dog - 1 (Blueberry)
Blueberry - 1 (Malakittens)

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-02-14 20:00:00).

[Malakittens]

@linky link:

Once a lovely plan
tTime will make stumps of us all
This tree is no more

Wis: my partners are Lincolm and Kmd, get it right

Blueberry: D:

This is what gives me the most pause about Lincolm and/or KMD being scum. When you are scum you are not allowed to claim scum and then give your partners name out...

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@Lincolm:

You are going to have to trust me on the Huntress town read. I have played a lot of games with her and I know her style. I used to be pretty horrible in the past on reading her, but pretty lately I been accurate.

[Lincolm]

I will consider that.

I need you to answer this. This is scum slip. Give me your thought about this.

This was apart of our plan anyway.

[Malakittens]

I actually already commented on it. I do not see it as a slip because there's two ways you can look at it.

Exhibit A:

KMD's proposed plan.
More easily to read to not have to go back:

Oh, and I had an idea for this game once it gets rolling:
maybe with all votes, put in parenthesis who you think should be killed if the lynch is on a supersaint. We basically have two chances to lynch scum each day. the lynch target could be scum. If not, they could kill scum. If we effectively have a second lynch count, we can control both chances by consensus.

Exhibit B:

If I selfvote, will you hammer me?

In a heartbeat

VOTE: Wisdom

do it

Shit, called my bluff xD

No need in wasting a kill though. This was apart of our plan anyway.
Gg

Vote: Wisdom[/vote]

See you guys in the aftergame

I think Exhibit B is more likely. As I stated previously I feel as if everyone IS reading too much into it. Clearly it's taken out of content to attempt to build a terribad case on another player. Which is why I am voting Blueberry for twisting/misrepping. I feel both are considered scum traits rather than town. I do know town will accidentally misrep, but to me this isn't an accidental misrep.

Clearly if you read Page 12 you can see where Slimer's post isn't an actual slip. He's only talking to Wisdom. Wisdom and him had a deal that if he self-voted that Slimer would hammer.

[Lincolm]

I know that also. But I think about the third.

"Our plan" is scums plan.

For the first condition, no one willing Slimer became hammer except Wisdom. So, it is apart of the plan. But, Slimer was bluffing. So, it is apart of his plan also, not Wisdom plan. I'm not sure that "Our" is "Town" because he is scum.

For the second condition, he was bluffing. It wasn't his plan for killing each other. Not "Wisdom and Slimer"'s plan.

Therefor, I get conclusion "Our" is scums. I don't think that is scum bait, because also seeing the context and the time he posted, he isn't crafting it. 11 minutes only (if he lucky there 1 scum online can help about it) and the talk began 40 minutes ago before hammer.

If you see flaw, I very appreciate it. (I already said before, I like to see minor details until I changed it)

[Lincolm]

By the way, by PoE, I leave Kmd and Blueberry as scums. Don't know which one I should vote.

I wish I'm doublevoter.

Vote : Kmd

[Blueberry]

Going to take this road and see where it leads me.

Into the wild
On with the mission

I have witnessed town CD - twice. What he did regarding his vote was similar to what he did when I was scum in another micro. He voted, but didn't really push for the lynch. Also the L-1 / hammer test is something that I see as town rather than scum. It helps gather reads.

So you are assuming that CD always plays the same as scum and doesn't do stuff for towncred. If you are town, you're undermining CD very much.

To say, I'm pretty sure that the scum are Cheery Dog and Mala.

Tell me why his logic is horrible.

Because his logic is always somewhat horrible.

Tell me why it is Cheery's plan. Why not someone else?

The "your" in my post means "the scum's". You know, because you is a plural form.

I want all of you give your thought about this (Cheery already said it):

See post 316.

[Malakittens]

He was bluffing. Then he got caught which immediately forced him to hammer because he was going to get lynched anyways because he was caught. Him and Wisdom made a deal that if Wisdom self-voted that Slimer would hammer.

Our plan because it WAS the deal with between Slimer and Wisdom at the time.

I don't see "our" plan as scum plan.

[Kmd4390]

Mala, how is calling someone new defending them. I called lincolm new too and voted him off and on. I called wisdom new (to a lesser extent) and pushed his lynch.

Lincolm, see above. You, wisdom, and slimer are all newbie. Hell, to me, the whole playerlist except wicked is pretty new. And I'm ignoring slimer's comment about "part of the plan". It doesn't mean anything except "lol this will fuck with them". No scum gives away info intentionally when they die.

vote lincolm

with a blueberry hammer.

Lincolm for the same reasons as yesterday. Blueberry for my glances at the final vote count and his lack of content. I want to do a more thourough read but work is getting in the way. 9am to 1am on weekends so maybe Monday?

For what it's worth, I also think slimer meant the scums' plan.

[Lincolm]

Our plan because it WAS the deal with between Slimer and Wisdom at the time.

It means it is part of their plan, not apart of the their plan. Do I misinterpret here?

Just assume here. I assume Slimer is the weakest scum, because I see other people play better. In other side, there was a long way before deadline, meaning everything can change. So, I don't think scum want to hammer that fast also. Meaning, it is apart to scums plan.

P-Edit : IT IS APART! SEE APART! NOT PART!

I WANT BLUEBERRY HAMMER YOU! ENOUGH FOR ME!

[Malakittens]

If you think Blueberry and KMD is scum. Then you will have no trouble with allowing Blueberry to hammer you.

[Lincolm]

If everyone agree next lynch or hammer is KMD, I'm fine, because he is my top scumread.

[Blueberry]

vote lincolm with a blueberry hammer.

Like hell I'm going to hammer my strongest townread. Oh, would you mind restating the reasons instead of giving this "the same as yesterday" nonsense. Atm, this looks like trying to manipulate the townies to kill each other.

Also, I'd love to hammer Kmd, because this is just stupid, if he's townie.

[Kmd4390]

If lincolm and blue die today, I will gladly be the hammer tomorrow no questions asked.

Blue, it's right in my ISO. And his really...

[Kmd4390]

Actually.

I'll self-vote if blue is hammering.

[Kmd4390]

unvote, vote kmd

L-1

All you blueberry

[Kmd4390]

Oh and in case I'm dead, don't let wicked slide by with obvtown status. I think he might be scum but I don't have a case or anything.

[Kmd4390]

Oh and cheery is the most likely player to be town in the game, but that doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. So don't listen to him but don't lynch him or let him hammer.

[Wickedestjr]

Quick post before I have to leave. I currently think Huntress and Blueberry are the mafia. Having said that please dont lynch anyone before I return. Ill explain my reads when I get back. Hopefully having day 2 last longer than a few RL days isnt too much to ask for.

Ftr I'm not trying to slide by. I've been really busy- it sucks tbph. I wasn't expecting it either.

Bye cya later