Mini 1199 - Plissken's Pit [GAME OVER]

[Internet Stranger]

So have we established now that Rikana and RandomGuy are both full of shit?

[yabbaguy]

IS, what's Rikana's alignment do you reckon? I'm banking on noobTown.

[Internet Stranger]

I see RandonGuy as the more sinister one at the moment. His methods appear to have an evil, negative influence to them while Rikana's just exudes a certain naivette instead.

Of course that all could change, but for now RandomGuy is a scumbag.

[JAMFTW]

JAM, what's being referenced is a warning that looks like this (if I recall it correctly)

At least one user has made a reply to this topic. You may wish to review your post in light of this.

If someone posts in the interim, even if the Submit button is hit, the post does not go through and instead that warning is shown along with the "interfering" post.

Thanks for that Yabba. Oddly enough, I didn't see that message pop up. At least, I don't remember it.

[Rikana]

Previews are automatic.

Um, no, no they are not. I hit submit after typing, it gets submitted. I have no "preview" screen to go through. I

can

preview my posts, but I usually don't.

If someone posts before you post, then an automatic preview is given.

(what Yabba said in 349)

Apparently this is a blindingly obvious scumtell, but I don't get it. 'splainy?

He put a serious vote on Smalls, and FoS'd small's replacement. He doesn't think that the slot of Smalls is scum, but rather the person Smalls himself is scummy. Therefore, he's trying for an opportunistic lynch by saying that.

Does that help?

So have we established now that Rikana and RandomGuy are both full of shit?

That's funny coming from you.

I'm banking on noobTown.

I are hurt.

[yabbaguy]

From iPhone,

I don't agree. I think that FoS suggests that he's saying the slot is scummy, which is right. That FoS carries down through any player who occupies that scummy slot.

Also, noob is not an alignment, so I'm being ridiculous. Sorry.

[Rikana]

It was a joke. I can take criticism.

I disagree. If he was to call the slot scummy, why would he FoS it? If I replace X and PeregrineV is voting me, I must be scum by his standards not an FoS.

[PeregrineV]

@Rikana- The slot is occupied by the player. I thought Smalls scummy- Locke posted, but promised more. As for the slot of player #10 being scum, I have no idea, that's why there is an actual player in there. The reads provided by the player, whoever they are, will hopefully tell us the role they play (town or scum).

With that being said:

Unovte.
Vote:Rikana

Why are you blatantly ignoring this post: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p3270841 ?

[Rikana]

So you are saying what I'm saying.

That's scummy. The slot should be scummy because the player is scummy. If you know that the player is scummy, but the slot is not scum, hence you voting Smalls but FoSing his slot, you must be scum for knowing such details.

I didn't ignore it. I missed it. Sheesh.

Maybe I did ignore it because you said we, when you have now stated that I haven't read it. I dunno.

3. Why is looks like your trying to buddy up to Bristep post mortum, esp. given the only record we have of your interactions indicates suspicion and voting of one another.

Because he's dead and he was town.

If I believe that someone was scum but was town, my reads are screwed up somewhere. I believe by looking at Bristep's reads, someone who could not have been a random kill, I will find scum.

2. Where he wants BeautyUndead (yabbaguy) dead.

Considering I, BU, Smalls, and IS were his highest FoS that are alive, I believe that is why.

Do I need to show you where he suspects them, or can you do something that might help?

I've dropped BU anyway. I believe he may be incorrect there, or not have an as large FoS. I know he's wrong about Smalls, because this is how he always plays(pst badly). IS I can agree with, and I'm town by way of my own role P.M. and actions.

[Internet Stranger]

Where is RandomGuy? I think that scumbag is trying to hide. If you dont your opinions on Rikana Guy, I wont have anything to judge you upon!

[Sky]

I'm trying to make sense of this slot thing, and I need to review SRG because I haven't spent much time there. One more question for Rikana, why were you so intent on carrying out the "legacy" of Bristep after you found him suspicious yesterday?

[SomeRandomGuy]

There's little for me to add currently, hiding certainly wouldn't be an option with your constant calling me scum and saying i'm full of shit at least you're being so blatent that i don't need to point it out since it's unmissable, this actually leads me to be more open to the idea that you're town but then I find aggressiveness in posts often convinces me of innocence, and i've been wrong before and let go of suspicion based on it.

I've already given thoughts on Rikana i think and they remain unchanged. He's leaning town for me.

The pushing on Bristep hard calling him scum, whilst being against the Malp lynch and Bristep still dying night 1 makes me feel it an unlikely scenario a team of scum with him onboard would have killed Bristep. His posts come across genuine and he does seem to be actively scum hunting.

IS - you're still far from town in my eyes.

I still believe there must be scum on my wagon by now, still the most scummiest vote on me in my view was Locke's.

@Locke -

The fact that he came in right as other people were trying to get things going and just ignored the state of the game to start a series of random questions speaks to me of a desire to bog down the game in pointless discussion rather than find scum.

Firstly, it was my #3 post, it was page 2, not a lot was going on.
What do you think i was trying to draw attention away from? Somebody in particularly i would have been defending or was i just stopping discussion in general? I've already noted it was perhaps not the best move, but certainly not a scum tell. I have found previously RQS has generated discussion which has led to real talking points in the game. Do tell me what of the 'state of the game' by that point i was ignoring.

You also said you'd come back with more, which you haven't - because i was saying you're likely the scum on my wagon or just hoping your vote gets forgotten about?

[Internet Stranger]

Damn Locke, someguy is calling you a bitch! What you gonna do now?

[SnakePlissken]

Day 2 - Votecount III

1.

SomeRandomGuy - L3

(yabbaguy, Internet Stranger, Locke Lamora)

2.

Internet Stranger - L4

(FightingShadow,SomeRandomGuy )

3. yabbaguy

4. PeregrineV - L-5

(Rikana)

5.

FightingShadow - L5

(Empking)

6. Rikana - L-5

(PeregrineV)

7.

JAMFTW - L5

(Swiftstrike)

8. Swiftstrike
10. Locke Lamora
12.

Empking - L4

(JAMFTW, Sky)

13. Sky

Not Voting - Locke Lamora

Day 2 ends Friday 29th July at 18:30 GMT +1. With 11 alive it takes 6 to Lynch.

[Empking]

Unvote
Vote: SRG

[yabbaguy]

That's actually L-1 since

LoLa's vote on SRG was overlooked.

[Empking]

That's actually L-1 since

LoLa's vote on SRG was overlooked.

Not on the SRG wagon just on Not Voting.

[yabbaguy]

Oh shit, that's right - Peregrine somehow found scumminess in Rikana. X_X

[PeregrineV]

So you are saying what I'm saying.

I doubt it, since I don't know what your saying.

That's scummy. The slot should be scummy because the player is scummy.

Wrong, the slot is scummy if the slot is scummy. This is usually determined by the player. When players replace out as town or mafia, and new players come in, if they act town or act scummy, it doesn't change their role in the game.

If you know that the player is scummy,

I opine that Smalls "goodbye" message was scummy, so kind of yes.

but the slot is not scum,

This part is unknown to me. Do you know for a fact it is not scum?

hence you voting Smalls but FoSing his slot,

Half right. Never voted Smalls. FoS the slot based on Smalls.

you must be scum for knowing such details.

What details? The only details have been provided by you that Smalls/Locke is not scum based on .....what?

I didn't ignore it. I missed it. Sheesh.

Ok

Maybe I did ignore it because you said we, when you have now stated that I haven't read it. I dunno.

Not sure what you meant, but the "we" was not a royal "we". It was "we" the other (non-Rikana) players.

3. Why is looks like your trying to buddy up to Bristep post mortum, esp. given the only record we have of your interactions indicates suspicion and voting of one another.

Because he's dead and he was town.

If I believe that someone was scum but was town, my reads are screwed up somewhere. I believe by looking at Bristep's reads, someone who could not have been a random kill, I will find scum.

OK, I get this. But in the re-read of Bristep, he appears to suspect you. If your plan is to "take up his legacy", then it starts with you.

2. Where he wants BeautyUndead (yabbaguy) dead.

Considering I, BU, Smalls, and IS were his highest FoS that are alive, I believe that is why.

Do I need to show you where he suspects them, or can you do something that might help?

I've dropped BU anyway. I believe he may be incorrect there, or not have an as large FoS. I know he's wrong about Smalls, because this is how he always plays(pst badly). IS I can agree with, and I'm town by way of my own role P.M. and actions.

I read through, in isolation and as a part of the thread. What I see, and pointed out in the previous post, was where Bristep suspects you. So what do you want my help doing exactly? Explaining why he suspected you? I think it's becoming self-evident at this point.

[yabbaguy]

T-4 days.

Peregrine, hackjob posts such as the one you've just done have

absolutely zero

value when it comes to persuading us to follow your wagon. I think Rikana's Town and your post reeks of tunnelvisioning.

[Internet Stranger]

Normally I would agree with you Yabba, but there isnt a clear consensus on whos the lynchbait today yet. Randomguy has the most votes, but there really should at least be a competing wagon somewhere first. Once that materializes, then you can start chiding people for goofing off and stroking their personal vendettas.

I say we let Peregrine hop all over Rikana some more and see what happens.

[yabbaguy]

I agree, I just wish he'd give us a more transparent means of showing that Rikana's scum if he is at all. You know just as well as me that that's a newbish post that does no good for anyone.

but there isnt a clear consensus on whos the lynchbait today yet.

That's interesting you mention it - WHY isn't there more urgency to make a competing wagon? Town and scum alike - nobody's moving. That means scum are playing pretty hands-off right now - is the game going the right way without their intervention?! The trajectory's pretty well towards SRG, I'm thinking, and I really hope they don't like that.

This thought is suddenly crawling into my head and I wish it would get out.

[Internet Stranger]

Welcome to WIFOMland! Population: Yabbaguy!

[yabbaguy]

I DON'T LIKE IT HERE. THIS IS NOT FUNNY.

[Empking]

I agree, I just wish he'd give us a more transparent means of showing that Rikana's scum if he is at all. You know just as well as me that that's a newbish post that does no good for anyone.

but there isnt a clear consensus on whos the lynchbait today yet.

That's interesting you mention it - WHY isn't there more urgency to make a competing wagon? Town and scum alike - nobody's moving. That means scum are playing pretty hands-off right now - is the game going the right way without their intervention?! The trajectory's pretty well towards SRG, I'm thinking, and I really hope they don't like that.

This thought is suddenly crawling into my head and I wish it would get out.

We've had hundreds of three man wagons today. Though if you worry translates in voting FS I'm down with that.