Micro 324: Bridge Mafia (D3, 6/9 alive)

[Malakittens]

I started it in 572. It's not noticeable unless you know the setup.

Also good job at trying to stay in confirmation bias world. It's like anything I say you aren't goin to take into consideration. 'Oh the play is similar to here, but you'll be able to maybe mirror that between both alignments so nope not unvoting!'

So lemme ask you who's scum once you get my town flip.

[Wolfy]

I started it in 572. It's not noticeable unless you know the setup.

That is much more subtle than what happened here...
Especially with hindsight when he turns out to be scum...

Also good job at trying to stay in confirmation bias world. It's like anything I say you aren't goin to take into consideration. 'Oh the play is similar to here, but you'll be able to maybe mirror that between both alignments so nope not unvoting!'

Heh! I spent time looking and I agreed there are similarities between your play in that game and this so you

could

be town. I'm not ready to unvote you yet because you still

could

be scum. I want to understand more. Interacting with you helps me understand your play better.

So lemme ask you who's scum once you get my town flip.

If you flip town then I'd be looking at lucky and even possibly enomis's replacement (bearing in mind the reading ability you showed in that game's post 572!)

We're not in any rush - looking forward to input from the replacement.

[RedCoyote]

Happy birthday RedCoyote!

Thanks, insanity!

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I have to say that the play style is very similar to this game - but then maybe you're good enough to play same style as town and scum.

Very much so, Wolfy. Don't underestimate the Kittens.

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It's like anything I say you aren't goin to take into consideration. 'Oh the play is similar to here, but you'll be able to maybe mirror that between both alignments so nope not unvoting!'

But he's right! I mean, I'm not going to go Antihero on you here, but all meta is, at its core, straight-up WIFOM anyway. "I played this way as town before, so that proves I will do it again".

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That is much more subtle than what happened here...
Especially with hindsight when he turns out to be scum...

Bingo. Yeah, Wolfy is definitely town. I noticed this as well.

[Egg]

Redcoyote i havent forgotten you. I'm visiting home and I work three hours away so I'm having trouble making time. I go back tomorrow.

[Malakittens]

I'd be very appreciative if people wait for eno replace ment to come in before hammering, Tia.

Also wolfy TN didn't turn out to be scum. I detailed the cops lynch day 2 when he had an inno on Tn. It backfired on me and then I was conf innocent for two LyLo phrases.kinda sucked to be me because I hate LyLo.

Also AA's meta is town here.
The eno slot IS town. That game AA did not town tell here she did. Let that slot go because its town.

[RedCoyote]

I actually agree with Mala in that I'm confident that the enomis/AA slot is town. If we get a strong town player, I'm definitely excited to hear what they have to say.

[RedCoyote]

Oh, maybe kunkstar and penguin will crossreplace! I'd love that.

[Malakittens]

Likely not. Pengs busy for the next few and at her max for games

[Lucky2u]

Uh... Isn't penguin the mod? Also, catching up tonight!

[RedCoyote]

I keep forgetting Lucky is even in this game. Is that good or bad?

[penguin_alien]

Kalimar replaces enomis. Vote count and any needed prods incoming...

[penguin_alien]

Once a contract has been reached (a bid made followed by three passes) the player to the left of the declarer has the lead. The declarer in the partnership is the one who first bid the suit of the final contract, not necessarily the last of the partnership to bid. What do we call the other half of the partnership? Stay tuned...

Vote Count 2.05:

With eight alive, it takes five to lynch!

RedCoyote (L-5):
Malakittens (L-1): Antihero, RedCoyote, Wolfy, insanity018
insanity018 (L-5):
Kalimar (L-5):
Wolfy (L-2): Malakittens, Lucky2u, Egg
Lucky2u (L-5):
Antihero (L-5):
Egg (L-5):

Not voting: Kalimar

V/LA:

Deadline in (expired on 2014-05-20 11:50:23)

Prodding Antihero

[Kalimar]

Hey, I'll hopefully have this read by tomorrow. If not, then Saturday.

If you want me to look at anything in particular, let me know.

[Antihero]

all meta is, at its core, straight-up WIFOM

amen

moonbeams from kalimar

[Lucky2u]

@Lucky, why is enomis a scumread?

Happy birthday RedCoyote!

First, bye Enomis! Sorry you had to go

Wolfy kind of took this answer for me. Not sure why, but atleast he knows where I'm coming from! For the most part it is PoE. His slot is not a main suspect for me yet, as evidence of my current vote.

[Lucky2u]

So lemme ask you who's scum once you get my town flip.

If you flip town then I'd be looking at lucky and even possibly enomis's replacement (bearing in mind the reading ability you showed in that game's post 572!)

We're not in any rush - looking forward to input from the replacement.

Can I ask why those two slots? I'm asking because you phrased this as if Mala flipping

scum

makes me

not

the person you would look at. Which would be the opposite of what I would expect.

[Wolfy]

So lemme ask you who's scum once you get my town flip.

If you flip town then I'd be looking at lucky and even possibly enomis's replacement (bearing in mind the reading ability you showed in that game's post 572!)

We're not in any rush - looking forward to input from the replacement.

Can I ask why those two slots? I'm asking because you phrased this as if Mala flipping

scum

makes me

not

the person you would look at. Which would be the opposite of what I would expect.

OK, let me rephrase.
If Mala flips town

or

scum you are high on my suspect list.

Same question Mala asked me lucky, if I flip town who are your scum reads?

I'm hoping for some fresh input from kalimar as from my perspective I'm kind of stuck now. Re-reading isn't giving me any new ideas.

[insanity018]

@Mala. The nature of the crumb in that game seems very different and more subtle. It's also kinda moot because you claim you weren't fake-crumbing anyway...

[OK, let me rephrase.
If Mala flips town

or

scum you are high on my suspect list.

Does this mean you are scumreading Lucky now? What caused you to change your mind? (from previous townread)

[Wolfy]

Does this mean you are scumreading Lucky now? What caused you to change your mind? (from previous townread)

leaning...
happened with the interaction two weeks ago (2nd May)
Not at all sure - of anything - including Mala

[Egg]

Lucky- He's mostly a town read because of the lack of a good case on him and people like Insanity voting him because it's easy. Also, looking back, his vote on Insanity early in the game is for reasons that I agreed with. I also like his take on jklash leaving his RVS vote for so long. He didn't try to run with it being scummy or anything. Just called it lazy and pointed out there's no possible "scum agenda" there. It's a voice of reason type of post that I feel like Luckyscum wouldn't use to discourage people from voting mislynch bait like that. His take on the Mala wagon today has the same voice of reason feel to it. Then the fact that he pointed out a clear difference between jk and wolfy, questioned wolfy on it, and THEN voted when he wasn't satisfied shows town scumhiunting rather than opportunistic scum like he seems to have been painted as. So I guess the biggest town tell is the way he isn't jumping on the BS that everyone else is spewing and is going against it in what appears to be a genuine attempt to lynch scum.
Mala - Like Lucky, I mostly just don't buy the case. I'm really not sure what to even look for with Mala these days, so I'm gonna have to leave it at that.
Arc/Enomis/Kalimar - I actually wasn't that impressed with Arc. She felt fake. Maybe it was that the buddying with Mala felt overplayed or the exclamation points threw the tone that way. Even Enmois' entrance seemed awkward asking about the theme rather than the game and then the "haha" to start his next post. But then he comes right out with solid reads and opinions and just keeps going from there.
Redcoyote - I have yet to figure out the difference between town and scum Redcoyote. However, I usually see town immediately in his posts and I don't see that "OMG He's Town!" here. Not sure why.
Antihero - Antihero is low on this list because of the jk thing. I really think the way he tunneled so early and his actions near deadline add up to a possible scum neighbor. And his attitude towards Mala feels fake. However, I don't have much of a case outside of that.
Wolfy - His third post looks overdefensive. Like he took Mala's "egging him on" thing way too seriously. The large font if and the "would never vote mala" thing with the winking smiley feel like trying to appease Mala and have any hint of a point against him gone. Like he wants to start off on a town looking note and this is a possible mark against that. I think Redcoyote may have touched on that post already, but it still stands out on ISO. The Arc vote seems like just sheeping Lucky's reasoning but still taking credit. He took Lucky's "try hard" point and applied it to Arc. Almost seems like he's just looking to place a vote that someone will agree with. More of trying to look good than finding scum. I don't like it. The real awkward thing was when I asked for the wolfy case and he just linked it calling himself "helpful". Really? Why not question why I would sheep it? Why not show me why the case is wrong. Just linking it like that looks like trying to fake relaxation. 122 reads extremely fake. And 122 is only the beginning of tunneling on Redcoyote to the point of implicating Mala just for a connection he claims is there. Then a wagon builds up on him. Another wagon builds up on jk, Of course he hops on jk pointing out a "scum slip" that wasn't even close to actually existing. Then today, he won't even listen to any logic that implies that Mala might be town. All he has is that Mala's move looked deceitful (even if the deceit was against scum) and must be scum behavior. This is not town trying to lynch scum. This is scum trying to justify his vote.
Insanity- The first thing that stands out is her town read on Wolfy for getting town out of RVS. Uh, what? How was it Wolfy that did that? When I originally pointed out that I've never seen a scum try to stay in RVS strategically, she concedes her Wolfy town read. This shows that she never had a confident read and makes the Wolfy town read look less genuine. Then she makes two very nervous sounding posts correcting herself about that same read. The Lucky vote just looks like wanting to find a townie to vote for and just "hey this sticks out let's vote it". Then she calls Lucky's vote OMGUS when there is a perfectly good reason attached to Lucky's vote. Admittedly, after that, Insanity's play looks better except for the jklash vote.

[Antihero]

if nothing else, RC should be a lot higher on that list for the claim.

^the only thing that's "fake" is that list

egg's scum

[Antihero]

just did an egg/lucky double iso and that scumteam actually makes a lot of sense

UNVOTE: for a sec

[Antihero]

redcoyote, i'm having some serious misgivings about a mala lynch now, espeically now that all i see when I look at egg's posts are "I'm setting someone else up to take the fall when Mala flips".

[Egg]

Shit forgot about his claim.

[Antihero]

oh yeah, shit there goes someone in your mislynch pool