In post 398, Lucky2u wrote:Bloodhound is an amazing card. If it was one of the 21 cards drawn, noone in their right mind would have discarded it. If you claimed that card whether for alignment or role, you'd be nuts. Town investigator on the other hand, checks for cult. As I've said multiple times, it's an easy card to discard as useless. Thereby making it much safer to claim as your alignment card since that's the only reason to use it.
In other words, a good town card risks a counterclaim by someone who either kept it as alignment (if they got an even better role) or kept as role (this means 16 chances it's in someone's hand). A bad town card would not be kept as role and only possible as alignment. (this means 8 chances for it to be in someone's hand)
TL:DR math says I'm right.
None of this proves your point nor does it make any sense since I've told the truth and I know this is wrong.
In post 399, Lucky2u wrote:I won't be voting anyone but ETL. Since she has expressed the same, let's make it a run off!
ETL for scum 2015.
ETL-scum wouldn't have used the logic of "that's a common discard" and then played dumb about it in the argument with you just now. ETL-scum is not happening in this game. Your lynch is bad and aimed on town.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
If you both weren't being stubborn, you'd see the other is probtown. This is dumb.
ETL/Soren/Lucky, leaving me CN/vedith. Not liking CN honestly. ISO him and you'll see. Calling for Soren lynch, no vote. Still going off it today. Why? Because vigshot. "if it helps im not guilty" yes, but I think you're likely third party without a kill and don't want to participate in this game anymore.
Vote: CN
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In post 401, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:None of this proves your point nor does it make any sense since I've told the truth and I know this is wrong.
... Are you even responding to the same post? How does math not make sense. Do you not understand how 16 is greater than 8?
I'm not trying to prove a point with that post I'm showing you math. It doesn't prove your scum but you ASKED how one card claim is safer than another.
"since I've told the truth" is the worst defense in mafia ever. You are aware people this a game of lying right? From our POV we have no way to tell if your lying or not and your defense is amounting to no more than "because I said so"
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It doesn't matter what anyone else believes, because from MY POV, KNOWING MY ALIGNMENT AND KNOWING THE CARDS I GOT, I know your "math" and attempted conclusion is incorrect. I know I'm town, and you're scum. I know you're not this fucking stupid.
In post 401, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:None of this proves your point nor does it make any sense since I've told the truth and I know this is wrong.
... Are you even responding to the same post? How does math not make sense. Do you not understand how 16 is greater than 8?
I'm not trying to prove a point with that post I'm showing you math. It doesn't prove your scum but you ASKED how one card claim is safer than another.
"since I've told the truth" is the worst defense in mafia ever. You are aware people this a game of lying right? From our POV we have no way to tell if your lying or not and your defense is amounting to no more than "because I said so"
I need you to ask yourself this and answer: do you really want to do this?
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
I can't really fathom nor find reason with how this day is going so far except that some bastard role turned Lucky into a jester N1. I'm kind of sad that's the best explanation that comes to mind.
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In post 406, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:It doesn't matter what anyone else believes, because from MY POV, KNOWING MY ALIGNMENT AND KNOWING THE CARDS I GOT, I know your "math" and attempted conclusion is incorrect. I know I'm town, and you're scum. I know you're not this fucking stupid.
If you are town, from your POV of course YOU know your town. We on the other hand don't know that, yet you are trying to tell us we should know you are town because you say you are town. If you don't understand why that is ridiculous, allow me to use that defense myself.
Hey guys, my alignment is town. From my POV I know this to be true, so you can go ahead and trust that it is a fact.
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In post 343, Hinduragi wrote:BOOM. Ok, so obvkill on me probably. Don't even care. Gj whoever blocked w/e. I'm not claiming but I am here to say, and confidently I might add since we got the psychotrooper, that Chaotic Neutrality is Not Guilty.
In post 403, Hinduragi wrote:Not liking CN honestly. ISO him and you'll see. Calling for Soren lynch, no vote. Still going off it today. Why? Because vigshot. "if it helps im not guilty" yes, but I think you're likely third party without a kill and don't want to participate in this game anymore.
Vote: CN
Why would you vote your own confirmed not-mafia if you believe that I'm a useless 3rd party with no impact on the game?
TBH I have little interest in setup spec across the board and that's the majority of discussion that's taking place. I imagine these types of games just aren't for me. Reads are hard to get because of the sheer amount of statistics and card-alignment-role type logic being used. I feel stupid for trying to scumhunt in an environment like this when nobody else is really doing that based hardcore on reactions and vote counts, instead preferring card claims which can easily be faked. I could see where that'd be fun but it's not my cup of tea. Live and learn, etc.
I'm currently re-reading to see if I can get a solid read on anyone who's not you.
There is no good or evil. There is only fun and boring.
I'm pretty much a universal townread, vedith. That's why.
Game is at a standstill and I'm not convinced of Lucky-scum. 90% of this D2 has been Lucky and ETL going back and forth and it's time to move forward. If you're a useless 3rd party, then you won't try. I see you not trying and not caring. That's my way of reading into the game. I don't really care about the alignment or role cards either and noone should be using them to make statements on this game unless there's something tangible in relation to alignment. You may be not-mafia but there are 3 different mafia-esque factions and multiple 3rd party roles that you might be rendering that investigative result nearly useless.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
In post 416, Hinduragi wrote:I'm pretty much a universal townread, vedith. That's why.
Well, that's arguable. I mean, this is a multi set up.
But to just assume that you were attacked is my concern here.
As if you were roleblocked and wanted to take focus away from yourself...
Well, I think that there is either only 1 team/solo killer left after the no kill last night.
Lucky is only going at you because of what you said about him. I agree that it's wasting the day.
You are still in my town list. This is also down to the fact of your card claim (I believe you said town dayvig) and then Soren stated scum dayvig.
In your situation, I think it would have been a worth while gambit to have claimed scum dayvig with expecting no one else to get it, showing that you received a scum card increasing the chances of 2.
Ash's comment today has really struck me as odd and I'm surprised that no one else has picked up on it. It was rushed and forced as a comment. He's also voting onto CN just to draw easy focus.
In post 416, Hinduragi wrote:I'm pretty much a universal townread, vedith. That's why.
Well, that's arguable. I mean, this is a multi set up.
But to just assume that you were attacked is my concern here.
As if you were roleblocked and wanted to take focus away from yourself...
I literally just claimed my result. I couldn't have been roleblocked lol
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
I really doubt Lucky is scum and you've pretty much ignored it while you two went at it and argued semantics over "false conftown card claims = lying mafia" and "argument is dumb so must be scum".
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
