Large Normal 205: Sibling's Love and Quarrel [Endgame]

[Zachstralkita]

I can do JJ but like again with Narna, I'm not understanding your town read here bud

Lmfao


Ok let me present a hypothetical


If I were scum with kraska and she's playing this game like she has been, we sending her out the PT real quick and locking the door, and locking our votes on her. Remember that one post she wrote like it was Shakespeare and Transcend scum pinged her for it?LMAO

Her play is a little derpy for scum, I haven't seen kraska's scum game I think but someone told me she was like a master manipulator



Her play here first instinct is to manipulate her into getting lynched



I consider myself a Townhunter so you have to hit me with a decent amount of evidence if I feel strongly about a read..

[Zachstralkita]

By the way my towncases for people are never solely "too scum to be scum" and if they appear as such... well I'm the best at those type of cases so

[Zachstralkita]

It's ok friend I won't let them lunch you

*Ahem*
Friends, we have ridden the length and breadth of the thread. The sun in its ceaseless course, has measured for us another year, and the members of this town are but too aware of the apathy that has prevailed and still prevails among us

We don't need 50 more pages to decide on a lynch. It appears the options rn are: kaboose, LQ, narna
Let's walk one of them to the noose and get done with this day. no voting elsewhere is allowed rn mkay. I promise LQ will flip scum, so join me, or vote one of the other two. Quick lynch in less than 3 pages, go.

Vedith needs to die sooner rather than later every post he makes pings me more I want to know why anyone is townreading that slot

WHAT THE FUCK? We all are operating on the assumption he's masons with you...

[Zachstralkita]

Or at Least I was lmao fuck this game

[Zachstralkita]

Kraska... Read between me and Elena. I'm her mason buddy. We originally wanted to distance ourselves but you are pushing a mason claim still.
Now, either keep it up and we lynch you or give me and Elena reason to vote else where.

Why would he lie lmfaooo he never denied it

I can't believe you believed proffessor chaos vedith's claim tho lol that was obvious bullshit

The sun in its ceaseless course measured it

[Zachstralkita]

I'm such a dummy

[Zachstralkita]

wait Vedith you fucking claimed?

.................................

[Zachstralkita]

Is Butters Professor Chaos in the episode where he gets a shuriken stuck in his eye on accident? if so then I feel like we can somehow correlate your behavior in this game to that

[Zachstralkita]

Steel is V/LA.

Vedith needs to die sooner rather than later every post he makes pings me more I want to know why anyone is townreading that slot

Elena what the hell does this mean if the claim's real? What were you going to do if he actually got lynched?

[Zachstralkita]

I'm losing interest in this game, cause it's boring as fuck

Gonna predict a town loss this game.

Gonna predict a town loss this game.

I agree. This is an inactive game with too many posts (is that a thing???)and we can't agree on anything

HOW DO TOWNS LOSE?


DEFINITELY DOESNT START FROM POSTING DUMB SHIT LIKE THIS LMAO


Lynching scum is mechanical work but it's not fucking witchcraft. Transc, can you try for like 3 seconds? Lol

[Zachstralkita]

mulch chill the fuck out??

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: kraska

How confident are you here..

[Zachstralkita]

That exercise didnt mean shit,


JJ is more likely scum than k77 in all scenarios

[Zachstralkita]

Stop preflipping we have to hit scum

My votes already on jjh



Mulch is going to piss me off if he thinks he can post however he wants cause of his feels though

[Zachstralkita]

Its a struggle because people stopped caring about this game at varying points of this game apparently??

[Zachstralkita]

NEGATIVE

fuckin... yo transcend swing with us lol???? I feel I've read townkraska correctly

[Zachstralkita]

If only I had a better trust on Zach...

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch shut the fuck up. Like actually. Stop posting in the thread for a while.



Kaboose I want to wait for a while before I talk to you about your read on that slot but jesus....




Steel, can you break down your reads in the Fringes and ??? tier some more? I know your position on jjh more or less. How does Uzi and Kaboose D2 play factor into your read there.. and what do you think about Wake's... incident.?

[Zachstralkita]

that was 2 pages of the stupidest fucking TvT I've ever seen




Kaboose, Mulch's scum game relies on him pretending to be inept and making the town pity him

He is fervently angry here in a way that defies logic for no reason. I don't know what he misinterpreted in your posts but yeah. He's all over the place.






PEDIT MULCH IS STILL FUCKING POSTING

[Zachstralkita]

that was 2 pages of the stupidest fucking TvT I've ever seen




Kaboose, Mulch's scum game relies on him pretending to be inept and making the town pity him

He is fervently angry here in a way that defies logic for no reason. I don't know what he misinterpreted in your posts but yeah. He's all over the place.






PEDIT MULCH IS STILL FUCKING POSTING

As someone who appears very aware of their posting habits as either affiliation... You don't think they could be throwing a change up here? No chance at all. Mulch either plays like A as town or B as scum. They're that easy to figure out?

Mulch has a really good scumgame








And he is just being toxic to you here. I have not a fucking clue why and the "stop posting" thing isn't working. This is probably the last thing the game needs

[Zachstralkita]

I need an adult

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah kraska is blatant town

I'm just memeing around bc she's my pal and that's what i do to my pals.

I refuse to read the mulch and kaboose fight.

VOTE: JJ

What if she VLA'd cause of the game

[Zachstralkita]

Sometimes you want to just beat Mulch with a detached rain gutter and a pair of Timberlands until he stops moving. Other times you want to read him a bedtime story. It's surreal.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: zac

VOTE: Narna

This may sound odd, but I suspect his problems with everyones pushes are scum inspired. As though he can say the common pushes and scumreads are bad because from his view he knows they're onto town.
Though he complains about how things go he doesn't really push his alternatives much either, and when I do look at his votes I can't fathom LQ d1 vote and chickadee still seems to be on her d1 voting both sides of me and nosferatu thing.

Now that I think of it I've also had that same kind of issue with nosferatu earlier on d1.

So what does this say for your Nosferatu read?

[Zachstralkita]

So what does this say for your Nosferatu read?

You mulch and transcend all say nosferatu is never happening and even further you and transcend clearly favored lynching me over him in a 1v1 last time even though I townread you. There's some element of mulch and I think one of you two also vouching for him too.

I mean even I admit Nos has been a nonpresence today






He plays very similar town/scum. I wouldn't discount it

[Zachstralkita]

transcend say s omething to me

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend did I ever tell u that when I rolled scum with u in penguin this quote really comforted me ""The first time I played Transcendscum he acted powertown and he and bacde led me like a collared sex slave in Rotterdam" - Zachstralkita"

Poor mulchy was scared but knew he had a good partner lol

It's a joke until it happens to you for real then you know what the signature means

[Zachstralkita]

Zachstralkita + Steel + Creature obv

[Zachstralkita]

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-07-30 18:30:00)[/b]

Just don't do the thing where we get close to 1-2 days left then all of you scramble the fucking fighter jets because that's going to irritate me and it'll probably end up in a mislynch

Like no one here likes consolidating on their reads. I have a small few I won't compromise on and they're town reads.

[Zachstralkita]

Doesn't plur. always make scum have to work less for the mislynch. If the town is bad then that makes them easier to manipulate...

[Zachstralkita]

Carcalilly, if you're not caught up votepark on jjh unless you want me to yell at you

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

Where is AGar

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

counting postgame.

If excluding postgame, it's 334.

did you just give mulch a target

[Zachstralkita]

There is still hope that we can past Scale of the Universe!

Lmfao he more enthusiastic about this than town winning

[Zachstralkita]

I'm going to kill you transend

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

Creature I am going to use your bone fragments as pillows

[Zachstralkita]

It's going to happen within a reasonable amount of time too

[Zachstralkita]

Kraska already lynched

[Zachstralkita]

KFAIDJGHSOKFLAODGLADHJLMFAEOOOFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[Zachstralkita]

I am decease

[Zachstralkita]

Honestly yeah I'm getting weird Large 203 vibes from this game,

That sucks.

[Zachstralkita]

Maybe jj is scum, I'm not sure.

So you think Narna flips red over this? Do you think Narna flips red over Nosferatu?

[Zachstralkita]

uhhh was there any useful content when I was gone

It will probably just hurt if I tell you but if you're a scum slot I'm going to find out and kill you anyway so gonna go with..... maybe

[Zachstralkita]

And with a claim he should have ISOs at least one or two, hes been asked for that or some sort of analysis like 3 times

[Zachstralkita]

I;m so hungry

[Zachstralkita]

no youre going to scare transcend or me and its going to be bad

[Zachstralkita]

man i live life on the fuckin edge

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi strike me as a Hamburger Helper type motherfucker

[Zachstralkita]

...........


I thought I was taking a risk when I clicked it motherfuckers, it was clearly a gamble

[Zachstralkita]

I have arachnophobia but it's not

that

bad


Dunno about everyone else thoufh




Also Narna did you give reads already I can't recall

[Zachstralkita]

So actually now that Ive ISO'd JJH again,are we really expecting a fucking claim if he lurked out the whole game and actively said he was disinterested in it


If he is red has he not had ample time to make or was given a fake claim? With all the info that's been just given away today?

[Zachstralkita]

Would you guys be legit IRL scared if I did a spide gif? I was about to post it but I thought I should check for seriousness of the phobia

Are you dumb

[Zachstralkita]

Now I know why they have your name on a list :/

[Zachstralkita]

i s2g can we not drag this day out???????? wtf

[Zachstralkita]

Hmmm shit. I wasn't here when he got lynched but after reading everything he said I'm confident my vote would have stayed there. Jjh managed to townread fucking everyone first of all

Waitaminute
Didn't wake ask for replacement
Haha did the mods miss that
We already townread wake anyway but he's pretty much conftown after this

Maybe maybe not. I was already townreadjng him anyway for that stupid shit but that's literally all he did. Plus I have to reevaluate the game now.





Narna
Nosferatu
Wake88
Steel
Chickadee
Carcalilly



Scum has to be in here... unless I'm wrong on someone in My top trs. Again will run through D1/2 today


Kaboose I think was softing to me a moderate amount his clear when I was pushing Creature and he literally only came in the thread to dissuade me.

[Zachstralkita]

@Creature - Hi, I'm going to talk to you a lot today. I was really scum reading you D1, during N1 though I read your posts a lot more and I feel confident now that I was wrong.

All mafia have guns, unless it is a purposeful false negative. 95% chance that Creature is town

So you reread? Did you and Kaboose have any mutual scumreads? I'm pretty sure after your two shitfests he thought you were town and was trying to work with you still, and your posting sort of aggravated me at some points yesterday mainly when you fucking screamed at him for nothing.





And ftr I don't think mulch is scum Kraska

He feigns incompetence as scum and towns pass him because he is so good at it. In this game I have seen a lot of things that have led me to believe Mulch is town here who got really pissed at Kaboose and the game for some odd reason, and I don't really use emotion as a tell anymore. It's complicated for me to explain but I think you're meant to read Mulch by the specific way he approaches the game :/

[Zachstralkita]

transcend do you want to play fetch

[Zachstralkita]

Still not liking this initial wagon on JJh. No one gave me a reason for the votes when I prodded them. I could see opportunistic scum in those votes, and Creature being gs'd narrows the pool down a bit.

Yeah I do. Not surprised you dont find anything scum indicative when he hasn't done anything for a lot of the game and we have asked him three times lol


You will note my votes not there though cause I am happy to wait for his ISOs or whatever


What else are you reading

But yeah p sure a lot of them didn't but most of that wagon was my town pile. Jjh scummed to me from day one tho, so fuck. That shit might have been over before it started for me

i want to play die irl becuase i loathe bugs i abhor them i detest them

There, there young pupper. I can murder you in this game if it's any consolation






I think Chickadees towny btw

[Zachstralkita]

Ight I'm coming over bro

[Zachstralkita]

but like i can't show mywork becausealisae's vcs have a fuck ton of bbcode in themand i just get confused when i color code

ur just gonna have to

~trust da doggo~

Throughout the course of this game you have been disappointing me both emotionally and mafiacolly










It's okay though because we literally only have a few people in the pool unless we're being 203'd.

[Zachstralkita]

I mean I've actually been playing though, you know the extent of my abilities...



Also I wasn't on LQ you little melting popsicle fuck. I tried to stop that

[Zachstralkita]

I am going to put you in the dirt. Titus was the last person who ever said LAMIST to me

[Zachstralkita]

I just gave you a scum pool you piece of shit. Keep playing w me




Also I thought Steel was decent yesterday too. I wanted to lynch that the whole game but I'm trying to not conf bias on it

[Zachstralkita]

But lol, jjh greened

[Zachstralkita]

Idk I feel like Transcend knows me well enough to not be saying some dumb shit but then again we don't actually play that frequently on average



Except for certain circumstances words like LAMIST and AtE are worth about as much as a puddle of piss to me

[Zachstralkita]

Can town follow me today please.
If I'm wrong on Kraska,

That's where I invested a townread into that I was rather confident in so you would have to sell that. I'm doing a reread as well






pedit ....... <3

[Zachstralkita]

Wait why is this even being debated then??? Kraska is scum
Unless you're lying to me

Im not lying buddy!
If Kraska flips town we Lynch Zach!

What are y talking bout

[Zachstralkita]

Policy lynch is for n00bs.
Don't be n00b Trans.

VOTE: Kraska

I thought I voted. Follow me.
Zach, if you don't vote with me I'm calling you scum!

What are u talking bout



@Chickadee I believe you're town but for the sake of simplicity I had to list all nonzero options

[Zachstralkita]

Not really feeling kraska.

Do we, or do we not have a guilty on kraska
That's all I want to know

What the fuck lol

???

Why are you assuming there is a guilty on kraska?

Vedith said so ..
Ah. He's lying isn't he. Vedith, why is kraska scum?

>Taking vedith at face value

>any year after 2000 ad


Should we rope this guy

[Zachstralkita]

Transc the point of me putting her in the pool was so I would give the impression and see who pushed on chickadee lol.. if you saw Creature pushing there then you could have waited



Chickadee in the fucking post she crumbed in was talking to me



Pedit how's wake conftown

[Zachstralkita]

Wake was dumbtown he was more than detached lol


Did you think the replace confed him

[Zachstralkita]

Isn't elena claimed mason?

Isn't Elena claimed Mason with Vedith

[Zachstralkita]

zach how do you feel about our kryptonite aka mulch

You're going to make Zach actually write huh

When I get home

and yes i turned mulch's name into a verb

I did that shit before u tho

[Zachstralkita]

Wow lol

I'm leaving now, but please don't lynch my purple mason partner mulch whilst I'm gone.

What would actually be helpful is a Nos case. If you're scum WKing Mulch is easy as fuck.

Is it a siren coming from the scum PT?

Yea the scum team who's been fucking us in the ass all game is panicking when Mulch gets votes, lmao. You are definitely the conf we need

yees i await your write up because i'm starting to lose faith in him being town

I mean I said it already this game lol but I guess I didnt do enough words or make them look pretty for people to care

that was 2 pages of the stupidest fucking TvT I've ever seen




Kaboose, Mulch's scum game relies on him pretending to be inept and making the town pity him

He is fervently angry here in a way that defies logic for no reason. I don't know what he misinterpreted in your posts but yeah. He's all over the place.

That kill doesn't really frame mulch
I think mulch is scum bc that shitfest he instigated against kaboose yesterday was fake as hell
VOTE: mulch

Saying the kill doesnt frame Mulch is really fucking hilarious it's almost bad

but like I don't know how you actually resolved his push as fake so easily. It was just toxic, lmao. Mulch would have been expending a lot of energy to push on Kaboose who he later... ended up.. townreading? And Kaboose ended up townreading him? It makes literally no sense. Then the NK happened. That seems like a frame, lol. It's the obvious frame so we're more inclined to doubt it but that's literally what WIFOM is



I think town!Mulch and scum!Mulch plays different because scum!Mulch literally fakes everything and drives it into the ground and makes you sympathize with him at the same time. He literally got me to think I was cyber bullying him last game cause we made a meme of him

Mulch has actually looked like he's tried to evaluate shit in this game, despite how stupid a lot of his posts have been to me, and most of what we can recall that he's done is like post a lot and fight with Kaboose. If I cared to run through 203 again I could tell you how it's faked and what's different here and why such differences matter but no I don't care to do that cause it's not my job to towncase people, it's people's job to scumcase them. And if you just provide little shit then I don't need to expend a ton of my energy writing why hes town



otherwise, lol. if you guys also want to incite him too then you clearly don't want this day to be productive if its filled with 806 fucking Mulch posts where he yells for most of it.... but whatever


case him concisely besides his interaction with Kaboose which I've already read


Or someone talk to me about my meta... probably Transcend... but I think you guys are fucking up here

Basically people always want to conflict with me on my heavy townreads but literally do 0 in the way of scumcasing then then I get looked at as unreasonable for defending such people. Everyone loves to post so a lot of the posts can be cases.

steel is a scumfuck man

I think Steel vs Nosferatu is not an insignificant theme here


....I'm pretty sure my vote is going in there

Yeah but Kaboose could've been lynched at anytime really. Especially when you factor his play late Day 1 and Day 2. How many of you would've believed he was a gunsmith yesterday?

I mean maybe you would have lynched him yesterday but he was pretty towny..

[Zachstralkita]

Everyone loves to post so a lot of the posts can be cases.

Despite shitposting Zach does his scumcases, yep.




Mention jjh's name. I dare you.

[Zachstralkita]

krasak
Steal
Naana
Y
Lil Uzi Uppertical

The Five Horsemen of the Apocalypse

[Zachstralkita]

Reminder that Maria has literally coasted ever since she claimed mason

Transcend I think carca's predecessor was really downy but like that's one of the townreads I'm a little iffy about bc carca has done nothing ever since replacing in

We also need to address:


Do you believe the mason claim or not?

[Zachstralkita]

I HAVE A BELIEF ON WHO THE MASON PARTNER MIGHT BE BUT I JUST NEED FUCKIN ELENA TO TALK TO ME AND SHE FUCKING HASNT

SHE CLAIMED WITH VEDITH

[Zachstralkita]

FUCK DO YOU MEAN SIR

[Zachstralkita]

Kraska... Read between me and Elena. I'm her mason buddy. We originally wanted to distance ourselves but you are pushing a mason claim still.
Now, either keep it up and we lynch you or give me and Elena reason to vote else where.

wait Vedith you fucking claimed?

wait Vedith you fucking claimed?

.................................

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Nosferatu

Scum candidates:
Zachstralkita
Narna
Mulch
WhyMafia
Vedith

Your list contain one or more errors

[Zachstralkita]

Okay Nosferatu,







It's time for the........................................ ★

cross examination

★

~ Why Is Steale scum

[Zachstralkita]

im going to have to leave for a few hours in a sec so this is bad timing

but when has he not been scum lol

My central issue is that your scum game is actually numbingly similar to your town game for me and the fact that I've like sorta semi towned you the whole game makes me pretty paranoid



Makes me want to make you do manual labor cause.........Steel's had some towny pings.. What did you think of his entrance/catch up yesterday? That didn't factor into your read?

all of his pushes turn out to be NAI shit that he refuses over and over again.

his iso can be summarised as:

"i hath reasons to believe that xyz is verily scum because [NAI reasons here]"
"lol no steel what are you doing"
*50 pages later*
"methinks my earlier points of contention were wrong"
rinse repeat.

I recall that being the theme for Day 1 but did it hold the whole game actually...?

[Zachstralkita]

Kraska... Read between me and Elena. I'm her mason buddy. We originally wanted to distance ourselves but you are pushing a mason claim still.
Now, either keep it up and we lynch you or give me and Elena reason to vote else where.

Why would he lie lmfaooo he never denied it

I can't believe you believed proffessor chaos vedith's claim tho lol that was obvious bullshit

The sun in its ceaseless course measured it

I'm such a dummy

wait Vedith you fucking claimed?

These came right after though.

The plan seemed to be distance from and push each other in order to ran up, claim, and then analyze and sort that wagon.

yea Transcend + k77 seem to have not noticed that post came before, lmao.. the one where Elena confirms it is like 3 posts below

I mean I know kraska saw it when it happened so..

[Zachstralkita]

kraska why are you still on mulch






Im not surprised those Creature actual reads

[Zachstralkita]

did nos leave already





















steel im waiting for your return BUD

[Zachstralkita]

Zach! Should I sheep you today?!

You cant say "this town" then think I'm joking when I ask u tell me why someone is scum :/

If Mulch is scum, the rest of the team is widely town read or he believes they're really good.

I mini town cased him no one really cares lmao

[Zachstralkita]

kraska SR on mulch is werird as fuck to me


why does he fake mad push kabooose to townread him 20 minutes later while kaboose was townreading him already?

[Zachstralkita]

Zach! Should I sheep you today?!

You cant say "this town" then think I'm joking when I ask u tell me why someone is scum :/

If Mulch is scum, the rest of the team is widely town read or he believes they're really good.

I mini town cased him no one really cares lmao

I saw but it's just like it's Mulch.

You never know lol

Naw if I wrote a thesis you would believe me tho



I KNOW WHAT MULCH CAN DO LMAO IM LITERALLY THE TEXTBOOK FOR HIS ATROCITIES .

You mean that fake guilty on Transcend?

We had about 3 reaction tests day one and you suggested a plan to lynch them all, LOL which is why I'm not surprised at all how you're playing this game





The lowkey hilarious part is that Transcend claimed at like L-19 LMAO

You cant say "this town" then think I'm joking when I ask u tell me why someone is scum :/

You was serious?!?!
Why would this town be a bad comment?
Should I sheep you though?! Because apparently my Scum read is wrong, but I think I'm right.

no you just have to tell me why she's scum? is this hard

does scum!kraska 180 on the mason claims so easily and unvote them? and then leave her read on you two.. open?

I'm literally also trying to sort her myself atm

[Zachstralkita]

like outing a PR and getting away with it?

Mulch said several times to not get Transcend to majority and not lynch him throughout that entire thing (the word "reactions" is actually mentioned if you go back and check daystart) ....obvious red flag for rxn test






When you have a real guilty you always lynch it. in what world is this false? Thus Transcend literally claimed too early because he was pissed at Mulch being dumb. He admitted as much

About 2-3 others saw the rxn text like uzi and chickadee? It's not a scumclaim from Mulch because most scum anticipates the optimal play for Town is to

lynch them for fakeclaiming a fucking guilty

, LOL


All that really proved is people suck sometimes

[Zachstralkita]

I said his play was mostly indistinguishable between alignments for me. I guess that's anti-meta.

[Zachstralkita]

So why are you scum reading him?

His finesse capabilities are off the charts.

From the limited experience I have with Nos, he's extremely low content and lucky as scum.

Not what I entirely observed. He finessed my life away in 203.

[Zachstralkita]

Um I tried to lynch Nero and moz you know no one cared

[Zachstralkita]

Jesus Zach can't ★

cross examine

★ anyone, can he?


I'm conducting two ★

cross examinations

★ at the moment. If Narna is scum he will be forced to reveal it based on his action/inaction. I think I've been trying to sort there based on his Steel read, but Steel is also a variable.


pedit

zach reoply to my reply to your reply to my post
why is mulch a bad vote

I'm pretty sure I did

dont take votes off mulch yet
come on guys.....................
we cant have votes flying around. i want people to be put under real pressure

this and what you said before i have no idea what it means. scum!Mulch knows exactly how to deal with "real pressure" LOL

[Zachstralkita]

Oh shit I did not

why does he fake mad push kabooose to townread him 20 minutes later while kaboose was townreading him already?

from what i gather from what multiple people have said about mulch in this thread before, he gets himself into vacuous shitfests to garner others' pity. i looked at the exchange yesterday and was like wtf is this crap? see mulch's play so far doesnt give me the impression hes a volatile kind of person so that looked ridiculously fake and the anger completely unwarranted, and i remembered what othrs were saying and this fits pretty well with my reaction to the exchange[/quote]

different type of shitfest


the one where he's scum, the shitfests are him making the townies think he's so dumb he gets VI cleared...

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch vs kaboose was like kaboose being normal and mulch snapping over something mundane that idk what, FMPOV




Even beside that It's rather arbitrary for me to like... write a wall about this. If Mulch is scum he walked into this game with several players who anticipated a scum!Mulch and would actively be anticipating his behavior, ESPECIALLY me. And his play doesn't reflect such caution that would be needed to win in this scenario. The last Large was way different...


Town can afford to not play optimal sometimes because they win doing it still. But it's bad practice

Successful scum can't afford to not play optimal, LOL.

Creature's case basically amounts to Mulch should be lynched because his reaction test on Transcend was scum, but really that's a suicide gambit. Scum does not make that play.

kraska your argument makes more sense than that one did, but it's you not knowing the difference between the way his behavior is specifically in this context... people like Nos and Transc can vouch I'm pretty sure. At least that's what I think

[Zachstralkita]

Wtf

[Zachstralkita]

ehhh chick still feels off to me but maybe my gut is wrong

i also still dont believe mason claims

Why not? VOTE: Carcalilly

Who is your pool besides this again?

[Zachstralkita]

Nos give me a second

[Zachstralkita]

You should join me on Carca if you think I'm town.

I've actually more reason to townread there than your slot, believe it or not...



VOTE: Steel

[Zachstralkita]

preflips have never stopped sucking but whatever






I summon the knight

[Zachstralkita]

Nos have you finished reading yet

[Zachstralkita]

Wow I actually just realized how much I hate Narna's scum pool


brb meditating in forest for twelve hours

[Zachstralkita]

so I'm to take

- kraska doesnt believe elena is a mason

- narna doesn't believe chickadee is enabler lol?

- Narna why do you SR kraska again

[Zachstralkita]

Spoiler: Zach's big defense of me

Mulch vs kaboose was like kaboose being normal and mulch snapping over something mundane that idk what, FMPOV




Even beside that It's rather arbitrary for me to like... write a wall about this. If Mulch is scum he walked into this game with several players who anticipated a scum!Mulch and would actively be anticipating his behavior, ESPECIALLY me. And his play doesn't reflect such caution that would be needed to win in this scenario. The last Large was way different...


Town can afford to not play optimal sometimes because they win doing it still. But it's bad practice

Successful scum can't afford to not play optimal, LOL.

Creature's case basically amounts to Mulch should be lynched because his reaction test on Transcend was scum, but really that's a suicide gambit. Scum does not make that play.

kraska your argument makes more sense than that one did, but it's you not knowing the difference between the way his behavior is specifically in this context... people like Nos and Transc can vouch I'm pretty sure. At least that's what I think

One other thing this is giving me pockety vibes, like extremely. I'm not neccecarily putting it PAST Zach to have such a good read on me to be able to do this, but I also feel like with him getting slammed by me before he should have at least a little natural paranoia?

On the plus side even if this is a pocket he's screwing himself for late game where he won't be able to go against this read.

Im not going to become Kaboose 2.0, lol

Defending you cause people want to push on derptown in mid game is not "a good read". If it's a pocket it's the most low utility pocket ever because you're Mulch


anyways did mulch really just push Transcend.... ........


and Narna is in the pool but that doesn't mean he gets quicklynched w/o saying anything






Steel hasnt' came back to STEEL the show yet..........

what is this smh

im about to gladiate nosferatu and steel

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi vert i need help

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch still scummy

VOTE: nosferatu this feels like a way better lynch than narna

Zach join me

You still haven

[Zachstralkita]

fuck

You still haven't told me why what I said doesn't make sense to what you said.... can I get some insight onto your progression

elena doing

just scum things

...If you think the mason is fakeclaiming why are you not voting the mason?

[Zachstralkita]

Reasons for Narns have been laid out.

I mean I know he's potential scum by poe but I didnt acc see anyone case him

[Zachstralkita]

.If you think the mason is fakeclaiming why are you not voting the mason?

Bc besides chickadee and transcend no-one seems willing to do that today

Transcend is willing to lynch Elena Fisher?

[Zachstralkita]

.If you think the mason is fakeclaiming why are you not voting the mason?

Bc besides chickadee and transcend no-one seems willing to do that today

Transcend is willing to lynch Elena Fisher?

Yeah...?

I think?

I feel like you thinking she's scum fakeclaiming should be a bigger point of interest for you LMAO


Transcend am I buggin ?

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch have you had any concussions? Within the past year or so

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

I actually don't get your arguement to why the pocket woulden't be a good idea. Please explain it in dumber terms for me

Haven't seen your towngame until now I believe. And if I were scum and wanted to use you I'd either like try to subtly steer you into a direction that I wouldn't mind seeing a giant trainwreck happen at, or ignore you and shoot you as opposed to directly interact with you. Idk



I do think the way you play can be positive util for scum because you're so fucking hyper. And actually crazy for the most part

[Zachstralkita]

im' just pissed because scum are playing well which i'm proud of them for but i hate myself because it's day 3 and i cannot fucking figure anything out.

like i'm trying to improve my town game here and it's not working lol

yeah same but you be getting hella stressed. I just get mad like sporadically





tryng to burn 1

[Zachstralkita]

Zach am I crazy too

Um

Not really but there's like large pieces of your thought processes that are missing to me either cause I forgot or they haven't been presented to me and it's disconcerting

my hard upper echelon townreads barring claims are like [Transcend/Uzi//Mulch] more or less, you're like on and off in this group


If I re evaluate these its a lot of work and most of it depends on the other person telling me stuff, so I need to consider it (and you need to tell me more stuff). Of these your slot is the shakiest but that's just like overall... I'm super confident in my Transcend and Mulch TRs most of all, and any other town reads I question before that.

But I'm getting to the point where this is an option that I need to re evaluate shit cause we're getting straight greenflips. It's why there's definitely scum in Nos/Steel to me and I've been interacting with both of those when they havent really appeared that much save for Nos


This Narna flip is rather important...

[Zachstralkita]

no you're fine

im' just pissed because scum are playing well which i'm proud of them for but i hate myself because it's day 3 and i cannot fucking figure anything out.

like i'm trying to improve my town game here and it's not working lol

These are LAMIST as fuck

ROFL

[Zachstralkita]

This Narna flip is rather important...

Why don't you vote him then?

I said I'm sorting two three fucking other people and we're three minutes in to the day


I DON'T dictate the lynches if people want to lynch someone it's largely out of my control so I assume the wagon you guys piled onto IS GOING TO FLIP and he's in my PoE but again... that doesnt mean I quicklynch him

[Zachstralkita]

This Narna flip is rather important...

Why don't you vote him then?

Zach scum buddy I think.

That's no way to treat a fellow scum buddy

[Zachstralkita]

This Narna flip is rather important...

Why don't you vote him then?

I said I'm sorting two three fucking other people and we're three minutes in to the day

This is LAMIST and scummy

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Zachstralkita]

this why i hate buzzwords cause anyone can use them and their post means something now

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch I explained to you I don't want to end the day right now cause I'm busy DOING SHIT if the day gets ended it stops that. That's not LAMIST

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch is turning transcend into kaboose no.2 and i don't like that

???


And for the love of God, explain why you think I'm scummy except for my anger was forced. Zach even fucking made a perfect defense to it, and whether he's town or scum you should believe it lmao

I kind of want to not clap but then I do, you're actually reading the majority of my posts?

I think I win the game for us tomorrow if Narna flips scum btw.

Not if you don't make it that far

[Zachstralkita]

for the love of fuck

[Zachstralkita]

is it going to be fun when i mad post

[Zachstralkita]

No matter what Narna flips Kraka and Zach's hesitation here is unnatural. They both have them as "poe scumreads" but refuse to hammer, it's bizzare

Do you know what process of elimination means exactly, Mulch?

IT DOESNT MAKE ME SCUMREAD YOU

IT MAKES ME WANT TO LYNCH THE SHIT OUT OF YOU AND NOT GIVE A SHIT WHETHER YOU FLIP GREEN OR RED

DO YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO EVERYTHING HOLY FUCK MAN

Vedith said chill and take a breather. Pls not good for you

[Zachstralkita]

No matter what Narna flips Kraka and Zach's hesitation here is unnatural. They both have them as "poe scumreads" but refuse to hammer, it's bizzare

Do you know what process of elimination means exactly, Mulch?

Yes...

Yes...
EBWOP

I don't think you do. It means there's a process in which I fucking eliminate the people in my pool. If Narna is on the lower end then he doesn't get evaluated before the people higher than him. That means I don't re-read for that slot yet. That obviously means I don't cast my fucking vote. That means I don't hammer him at L-1 cause you fucking ask me "WHY ARE YOU NOT HAMMERED HIM"? That means you don't get to call something LAMIST and scummy when it's really just you being stupid and you don't see why Transcend is aggravated and you don't see why your posting aggravates me either.

we are a day into this phase

why are you parsed by that

seriously mulch

They both have them as scumreads, and it makes no sense for them not to hammer and go with the flow of the town

TELL ME EXACTLY WHY I GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FLOW OF THE TOWN WHEN THE TOWN HAS BEEN WRONG ALL GAME MYSELF INCLUDED?

[Zachstralkita]

what the fuck

[Zachstralkita]

if Elena Fisher is scum, why did Elena Fisher just effectively claim scum?

[Zachstralkita]

If she continues being vague I'm deadass lynching her lol

At this point I wouldn't be opposed to that but none of this accurately refutes

if Elena Fisher is scum, why did Elena Fisher just effectively claim scum?

....we're just going to WIFOM this one away? Really.

[Zachstralkita]

It's not really a fucking meme though

I gather you're hinting at the word celebrity

Are you hinting at being IC?

So... if this were true now there's no point in her having tried to be subtle or disguise her role at all...

[Zachstralkita]

IC doesn't fake claim mason. At worst they act lynchbait.

But... scum doesn't claim scum in thread either do they

[Zachstralkita]

Why are we mass claiming on Day 3 lol

On a more happy note I got really into wwe cause my friend got me into watching it some old ones for about 3 hours and I gotta say I miss The rock and Randy Savage 2 of my favs the new stuff is quite boring

Do you not understand the exact situation you're in

[Zachstralkita]

OH SHIT

[Zachstralkita]

NO IT HAS TO BE A TOWN CLAIM

IT CANT BE A SCUM CLAIM!! SHE CANT BE THAT DUMB

[Zachstralkita]

EF WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DID WAS PRETTY DUMB AS TOWN ANYWAY

[Zachstralkita]

Elena

how mad are you going to be iat me if I tell them

[Zachstralkita]

Elena

how mad are you going to be iat me if I tell them

Do you get why I'm not claiming?
If you tell them to just f off it'd be great

Duh, lmfao. I hate you tho lol seriously we need to have a talk after this game

Should i just unconditionally trust you, Z?

I think you probably should bro tbh


Let's go back to discussing Steel/Nos/Narna

[Zachstralkita]

If anyone accuses me of defending scum, then lynch Elena and you will:

1. Piss me off

2. Get a green flip



There you have it

I will then

VOTE: Steel

I'm very confident this will red.

Im still sorting him/Nos at this point

But Steel hasnt showed up which looks p bad

[Zachstralkita]

@NOSFERATU needs to tell me his thoughts on Steel's catch up yesterDay and his content past it I think

[Zachstralkita]

Not moving

Okay... remember the numbers

Not moving and Steel is v/LA.

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK THAT FUCKS WITH ME. I forgot he was VLA

Hey weren't you on Narna and not Steel?

[Zachstralkita]

Steel can be VLA in a scumslot but I even admitted that his lynch is not the most optimal. That doesn't town clear him tho and if you're going to use that to fucking lynch Elena, who has pissed me off because of how obvious her claim is and how people aren't reading it, it's going to be really stupid.


I will find out if NOS is scum by what he tells me further


NOS AND NARNA FUCKING COME IN THET HREAD

[Zachstralkita]

After all this it makes me consider narna more LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

Why do I have to like stick my hand and wrench a lynch off of EF LOL this shit is ....




If you guys are going to drag this shit out and make it more complicated then I might have to actually be hasty with my vote in order to not compromise Elena's claim

All Zach done this game is made us mis lynch jjh.

Lmao who was the one that defended the boy LQ again? I'll wait

All Zach done this game is made us mis lynch jjh.

Yeah

you havent done any thing this game except act like you were on hard drugs and make people want to fucking replace out




I really wish I didn't like you lol

Like Steel is v/LA till Monday so we will just be waiting 24+ hours for a response which most likely be crafted and tailored to the basis of the wagon and those on it.

Wait wht does this mean

Doesnt this work on the assumption hes a scumslot lmaooo





I'm re-reading Narna now.

[Zachstralkita]

SOMEONE MAKE A VC REAL QUCIK

[Zachstralkita]

kraska if you stay I can make it stop :/// im gonna be sad

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith why are you scumreading a joke from kraska? This is liek independent of your scumread on her??/

[Zachstralkita]

And shut the fuck up with the spamming rs

[Zachstralkita]

WE ARE NOT FUCKING MASS CLAIMING

[Zachstralkita]

I was in the middle of writing a post that said I was gonna be unpleasant if Vedith kept spamming


I think he's town and being an asshole so I'm probably going to votepark Narna in 3 seconds cause you want to make this fucking game unplayable

It's not unreasonable for town to want a full claim here

HERE IT IS. AND I SAID WHY IT WAS. YOU'RE AGREEING WITH MULCH HERE



pedit

VOTE: Narna

[Zachstralkita]

KRASKA WAS FUCKING JOKING


GOING TO BE FURIOUS IF YOU JUST CLAIMED YOUR ROLE FOR A FUCKING JOKE VEDITH

[Zachstralkita]

I'M ALMOST ABOUT TO LITERALLY OUT ELENA FISHER BECAUESE OF HOW STUPID YOU'RE BEING VEDITH

[Zachstralkita]

Kraska was trying to get Elena lynched. Was not a joke.
I'm checking you tonight and outting it.

Simply put if you think I'm town we have to not lynch ELENA


What you don't get is that I am able to determine whether her role is true or not in a way


AND I CONFED HER TOWN BECAUSE I KNOW HER FUCKING ROLE

[Zachstralkita]

TELL ME WHY TO LYNCH KRASKA OVER NARNA BESIDES K77 PUSHING ON ELENA FISHER ROLE

[Zachstralkita]

HEY WHAT HAPPENS IF I SHEEP VEDITH AND WE'RE WRONG? WHO SHEEPS ME FOR REST OF GAME

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: kraska




Vedith wants to play with me lol

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith if you're TPR that doesn't prevent you from being stupid. I'm about to show you why.

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend if you townread me sheep me. We're going to either out Vedith as scum or as terrible.

[Zachstralkita]

if kraska's slot replaces then there's no way that person will read 300 pages of this shit, making it effectively useless for our purposes. That's more valid than anything Vedith has said.



but Vedith really pisses me off because if he's rolecop he's going to throw for us


Uzi Transcend you gotta make a deal with me if you care at all about this game lol

One of you genuises that knows what Elena is trying to claim tell me

NO IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE

[Zachstralkita]

I'm happy for scum Zach to bus

yes Zach is bussing his partner who has one vote, a vote from

Vedith

I don't care what role you have LOL you just proved my point

[Zachstralkita]

So whenever scum caught replaces out we should let them live

....I'm saying that's the reason to lynch them. LOL


You don't have anything better than that in your ISO.

[Zachstralkita]

Rather it would be why kraska gets lynched more than that meme gambit she did when she pushed on Elena

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Narna


Hey Vedith. You're going to be surprised

[Zachstralkita]

I've regained my senses now

[Zachstralkita]

No I'm serious lol you're going to laugh Vedith

[Zachstralkita]

I forgot who I was talking to

[Zachstralkita]

Come back to us Zach

Thank you Zach for not outing my role because Vedith makes you want to jump off of a volcano!! xox







Vedith, actual good job this game. I'm serious.

[Zachstralkita]

I ALMOST PULLED A LAUNDRY MAFIA

Thanks Zach.
I'm still outting you tomorrow.

I'm expecting you to pal

[Zachstralkita]

Thanks Zach.
I'm still outting you tomorrow.

Vedith remember


Maybe you will display some critical thinking skills at that point

[Zachstralkita]

Actually if vedith continues being insufferable we could just wotc him out

That's still a throw on technicality. Like lynching you would be too, so I stopped.



Vedith is dumb sometimes but he's not actually incompetent.

[Zachstralkita]

Thanks Zach.
I'm still outting you tomorrow.

Vedith remember


Maybe you will display some critical thinking skills at that point

Don't count on it.
You and Kraska are scum.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Wake88

night.

VOTE: Wake

Horrible votes.

Uzi's post is a Scumslip. You're just being dumb. Why else would he post that? It's not about being an altslip, but a SCUMSLIP. They are NOT the same. WHY did he say Kraska can't read him so it's fine (like what the hell does that mean?), and WHY did he curse and ask the mod to delete it?

Stop being fucking stupid and THINK.

[Zachstralkita]

they could have rolecopped me and knew i would check her so she retracts it now in hopes i dont

Are you claiming cop?

no im bs-ing

he asked "where is the joke" lol

[Zachstralkita]

Go on then, tell me the joke, Zach.

I'm actually not trying to roast you this time but is your position actually that, kraska did a gambit as scum cause she has a fake role, and when you press her on it directly, she scumslips to your face?

[Zachstralkita]

Zach are you prepared for the fallout here if Narna flips town.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE FALLOUT?

No one wants to lynch Steel or Nos with me, you don't even want to do that.

LYNCHING KRASKA TO CONFIRM VEDITH DUMB IS A THROW.

LYNCHING ELENA FISHER IS A THROW.

This is the lynch you guys wanted and I got like fucked when I tried to sort things in this game because Vedith wants to tunnel kraska WHEN I AM LITERALLY FUCKING TRYING TO TELL HIM MY JUDGEMENT IS NOT POOR.

And he confscums me for it. He's going to rolecop me for it which is fine.

Go on then, tell me the joke, Zach.

I'm actually not trying to roast you this time but is your position actually that, kraska did a gambit as scum cause she has a fake role, and when you press her on it directly, she scumslips to your face?

Yes. Tell me the joke.

it's a joke because you overestimate your abilities or think kraska has the intelligence of an almond

[Zachstralkita]

The fall out entails one of you, Elena, or kraska getting lynched here. Any of you flip town, the process repeats.

@Zach

I'm not getting lynched bro, neither is Elena.

The more Mulch posts the more brain cells I lose

you kinda fucked me up friend




I wish you hadn't retracted your mason claim

Don't give me that. Steel again is v/LA and there isn't enough interest. The case is on Nos from you is literally fear. You want to fear lynch him.

I actually don't understand your position here. I knew how fucked town was anyway if we mislynched today lol I've been considering this the whole time


You've made an ultimatum for what reason? I said there's scum in Steel/Nos and was determining that when everything got fucked. Do you want me to actually assess this stuff? Cause we can

but Narna needs to contribute and my Nos read isn't fear based, you're just generalizing it because I've posted too little content WRT that (Steel is actually scummier but I had towned him at some points)

[Zachstralkita]

I get the Fallout thing now.


But yeah, I don't get it. I can defend myself and I can defend Elena. Elena probably will have to defend herself. If we lynch wrong here we only get fucked if they actually FOLLOW the pool.

I made an ultimatum because a sane town would lynch Elena here 100%.

Then you will do it without me and be ready for the fallout of that lol. Completely viable for you.

I literally just said that

Transcend is putting his stock into me though

This can get much worse.

You're not understanding we can actually do shit once Vedith gets out of his tunnel.

[Zachstralkita]

And why would Vedith do that? He has no incentive to as either alignment if he's actually role cop lol

yeah but

I know some things he doesn't

You're not understanding we can actually do shit once Vedith gets out of his tunnel.

Explain the joke to me and if I understand I'm sure I'll not tunnel.

wow

okay this is going to take me like five minutes, i have to refer to examples

[Zachstralkita]

It does make me laugh that Zach is so against me Scum reading Kraska yet is taking so long to explain this obvious joke in which crumbles my tunnel on her.

i mean the tunnel is dumb to begin wtih i have to look for and quote shit from day 2 and im posting in other games... litreally going rn

[Zachstralkita]

>when they don't put the daystart in the op

Cop guilty on transcend

VOTE: transcend

I want to claim too. I checked someone's role and received goon. Is that usually a town or scum role?

Vedith what do these things have in common? Serious question

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith what do these things have in common? Serious question

Claims of cop start of the day for reactions.

The thing they have in common is that people saw they were reaction tests and not scum fakeclaiming because of fucking context easily discerned. Creature didn't because he's a robot but


I want you to tell me in what context does scum kraska ACTUALLY DO THAT FOR REAL(fake the pr...), and when pressed on it decides to confirm herself as scum to you rather than flat out be like, LOL IT WAS CLEARLY A JOKE or do something else to take your attention away.


Instead what I watched her do was like flail, flail, flail, and threaten to replace out which is tactical and illegal play if you're scum





If it wasn't a joke then why were you the only person who saw the scumslip? We're all dumber than you and you caught the scumslip that everyone thought was a joke? Because we're all dumber than you?

Just discourse normally. What am I wrong about with this?

Then why are players pushing her?

She made a crumb that I caught, but the majority of people didn't. I said if town lynches her they suck.

[Zachstralkita]

You thought she was rolefishing, vedith?.............



Uzi you deadass don't be helping me in civil engagements LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

If it wasn't a joke then why were you the only person who saw the scumslip? We're all dumber than you and you caught the scumslip that everyone thought was a joke? Because we're all dumber than you?

You haven't told me what the joke was.
If I say "I killed Trans last night" and he's alive then that's a joke.
But what is the joke where Kraska says that Scum role cop her and saw what she is?
Unless you think Kraska knew I was role cop and was implying I'm Scum there?

Otherwise you haven't explained what the actual joke is... like everyone seems to be getting.

the joke was that her claim wasnt true though. that was the clear joke that we all saw. i don't know if it's entirely a joke but it definitely goes into meme territory


she didn't make it funny at all. you want to lynch her for that?

Zach should I do it the effort here is starting to not seem worth it

so you mean

you made me do all this just so you could out yourself

i wish i had more energy rn

There's nothing I can do Zach, there is only one way to repair the gamestate and that's if you and Elena say the actual role.

This can get a lot worse and I really don't want this to lol

If she okays outing it, then I'm fine with that. I don't see why she made it so difficult or why she retracted mason.

[Zachstralkita]

FUCK, ELENA . UZI IS KINDA RIGHT THOUGH I JUST PEEPED





like do you see what I'm seeing

[Zachstralkita]

There's nothing I can do Zach, there is only one way to repair the gamestate and that's if you and Elena say the actual role.

This can get a lot worse and I really don't want this to lol

you can get vedith to help lmao

was kraska post a joke or no? say why

[Zachstralkita]

the joke was that her claim wasnt true though. that was the clear joke that we all saw. i don't know if it's entirely a joke but it definitely goes into meme territory


she didn't make it funny at all. you want to lynch her for that?

Okay, so if I say your are a strongman tomorrow and it isn't true but I'm saying it to push a lynch on you, it's okay because it's a joke?
Because that sounds fucking hilarious!

More jokes please Kraska!!!!!!!!

Well... if you get someone lynched for that it and you're lying it isn't a joke

If you retracted we could call it a joke. Kraska's retraction was the joke, is the whole idea here.


Vedith do you think we're being unreasonable with you? LOL

[Zachstralkita]

Elena I'm actually so mad at you

do you want me to do it?

[Zachstralkita]

like i'm mad at you because of the situation that got made LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

If you can't hold your claim, you're an hindrance.

I don't think you've been here for the last 20 pages.


Anyways EF yeah just go ahead LOL

[Zachstralkita]

Well... if you get someone lynched for that it and you're lying it isn't a joke

If you retracted we could call it a joke. Kraska's retraction was the joke, is the whole idea here.


Vedith do you think we're being unreasonable with you? LOL

But you just said that Kraska was lying.
Now is it a fucking lie or a fucking joke?
Who decides when it's a joke and not?

How about I say it get you lynched and retract it. Is that a joke? Sometimes jokes can go too far so it's still a joke, right?

I think that you have a shitty reason to town read Kraska.
Even if my reason isn't right, it doesn't mean I'm wrong with Kraska Scum.

Okay... Lies are things that not true. If the joke relies on something that isn't true it also is a lie to? They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

If you say that, get me lynched and retract it after it's not a joke. It becomes you gamethrowing because you passed a certain point where it was acceptable.

MOST PEOPLE can decide what is a joke or not. I'm the only person you've actually pressed about this. Why? Most people probably see kraska's post as a joke too but they don't have to explain that, lol.

[Zachstralkita]

like i'm mad at you because of the situation that got made LMAO

I only take slight blame for this

I want you to do it now though it might help us to advance out of whatever this is

Only what's necessary

[Zachstralkita]

I'm pretty sure Elena's claim gets confirmed via way of mod... and she was Macho.

[Zachstralkita]

Okay... Lies are things that not true. If the joke relies on something that isn't true it also is a lie to? They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

If you say that, get me lynched and retract it after it's not a joke. It becomes you gamethrowing because you passed a certain point where it was acceptable.

MOST PEOPLE can decide what is a joke or not. I'm the only person you've actually pressed about this. Why? Most people probably see kraska's post as a joke too but they don't have to explain that, lol.

So explain the term- A joke taken too far?
Would you consider me getting you lynched as a joke was a joke taken too far?

Okay, if most people can decide if it's a joke I decide it's not.

Why would she get so angry for me pushing her for it? Why do you feel Im in the wrong for pushing her for it given what I know?

Because gamethrowing is not a joke bro

If you fake lynch someone you say its fake BEFORE they die other wise you throw the game if you're town. This scenario is clearly different as were the fake guilties Day 2


She got angry probably because you just said "Lynch Kraska" a lot (you were already... you were already pushing her for a long time)... on top of the other shit in this game that people generally don't like reading, I actually don't see a reason for town!kraska to not get pissed off if you pushed on her the way you did. (because the pr claim would again, be a joke)


I feel you're in the wrong because you've started your operation off the wrong assumptions and you branch out on me for DEFENDING someone. That's a sign of conf bias.

[Zachstralkita]

Sad part is we gain nothing from the fake claim if true.

I told you not to lynch her



she was talking about wrestling "my favorite characters are the rock and randy savage". What's randy savage nickname

[Zachstralkita]

ELENA IS MOST LIKELY MACHO IC.

[Zachstralkita]

scum!Elena isn't going to fake soft Macho though when the optimal scum play is to just... not retract the mason fakeclaim she was riding on

[Zachstralkita]

Like this town let her go hella long w/o addressing who her partner was, if she was scum the mason claim might have been fine