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@sando same question to you. =)In post 399, Oxy wrote:
Yeah, still null. Could you point me to the posts that make you think he's town?In post 397, ceejayvinoya wrote:Yay fellow FF fans! You all get bonus townlean points
Kidding aside,@Oxyis duckling still null to you? So far I think he's pretty helpful for town.-
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Did you prefer the FFI or FFIX ref Ceejay? V important-
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It's mostly the strength of his town-reads, and he's taken controversial positions that even if I don't agree with I like the forcefulness of his anti-groupthink. His views are well thought out and expressed, combined with a laissez faire attitude it strikes me as town. He's not locktown to me yet but he's done more than enough to make my D1 non-lynch list.In post 403, Oxy wrote:It was in the quote... Could you point me to the posts that make you think [duckling] is town?-
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Oxy I'm concerned you stated a nullread on me yet keep quizzing people on me while ignoring your other nullreads.
I believe you have a read on me. Your readslist was shonky and I do not believe it stated how you actually feel about players. cough up buddy-
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114 is probably the first strong townread of the game.
165 is a strong push against a quick wagon who had one of his townreads already on it, this is what I'm getting at with anti-groupthink
His clarity and laissez faire attitude don't really have any specific post, it's more of a trend than any particular post.
I'm gonna leave it there, Oxy what are you trying to gain through this interaction?-
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Answered this already above.In post 409, Sando wrote:114 is probably the first strong townread of the game.
165 is a strong push against a quick wagon who had one of his townreads already on it, this is what I'm getting at with anti-groupthink
His clarity and laissez faire attitude don't really have any specific post, it's more of a trend than any particular post.
I'm gonna leave it there, Oxy what are you trying to gain through this interaction?
So you're town reading him for giving a town read without explanation in a confident fashion?-
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Yo talk to meIn post 410, Oxy wrote:the worst, asking them for the posts that make you look town is an exercise to both to help me sort you, and to continue building my reads on them. The game is long, and I'll get to different slots as I get to them.
I'm concerned that your biggest concern seems to be my read on you.
This game has been quiet, you and I have posted a lot. I'm also pretty introverted so get very strong feelings based on how players interact with me.
Give me a strong read and justify it with textual evidence. :3
Your read list was bad for a few reasons which I'll go into shortly~-
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I'll give you my nulls:
NM (but would def PL)
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This is starting to ping me.In post 410, Oxy wrote:I'm concerned that your biggest concern seems to be my read on you.
Why do you think this is a concern and not a topic?-
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No I'm saying a confident town-read early in the game is anti-scum. Scum don't want to clear people, and they don't want to put a spotlight on their scumpartners, the easiest and simplest way to do this is to say little of note about them. One of the hardest and probably most dangerous for scum ways to do this is to give confident townreads.In post 411, Oxy wrote:So you're town reading him for giving a town read without explanation in a confident fashion?
Got any conclusions there or are we just gonna keep playing the questions game and pretend you're contributing content?In post 410, Oxy wrote:asking them for the posts that make you look town is an exercise to both to help me sort you, and to continue building my reads on them.-
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Reading through Duckling Iso, I realize I misread this, lol. I thought you wanted me to vote Quick, and not the reverse.In post 306, Oxy wrote:
No, I think I'm probably going to bed soon. Maybe tomorrow. =)In post 301, the worst wrote:Quick Oxy is scum before poignantchips here imo, want to vote him with me?-
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I'm sorry. It's difficult to build conclusions from questions until people answer them.In post 417, Sando wrote:Got any conclusions there or are we just gonna keep playing the questions game and pretend you're contributing content?
So far I've concluded that this portion of your read doesn't seem valid.
I'm surprised at your reaction to my questions since you are town reading the duckling and he's been giving a master class in questions without content. It does not seem consistent. Don't misconstrue this as me suggesting that asking questions is scummy. This behavior is NAI, imo.-
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Just based on what came to me when.In post 415, the worst wrote:Is that in any particular order?-
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LolIn post 419, Oxy wrote:I'm sorry. It's difficult to build conclusions from questions until people answer them.
So far I've concluded that this portion of your read doesn't seem valid.
I'm surprised at your reaction to my questions since you are town reading the duckling and he's been giving a master class in questions without content.
So I've provided links to duckling providing fairly strong content, I even characterised him as providing the first strong townread of the game and articulated why that's townie. Then when I imply you're not providing content you disregard the posts that you specifically asked for and make a naked assertion in direct contradiction of me.
Secondly, proving towniness through evidence is incredibly difficult and rare, given it's typically a bunch of good actions followed by a lack of evidence of bad actions. Proving a negative is incredibly tough to impossible, so if you want to show me why I'm right you have to at least make an effort to prove the positive, in this case that duckling is scum. You haven't done that, you've blindly asserted I'm wrong and ignored the posts that you specifically asked me to provide.
After all that, you go out of your way not to make a read...on anyone.
VOTE: Oxy
Apologies for my list before duckling, but I'm still not putting CJ into my townlist.-
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If we agreed on EVERY SINGLE POINT I'd be worried you were buddying me, ceejay is a fair disagreement. I need to case him when i have time.
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