In post 424, CF Riot wrote:If you were really town in this situation you wouldn't care and you'd just admit you weren't sure and try to convince Mala you were town. You didn't do that because it seems too pushy and you were afraid calling yourself town would come across as scummy.
I already did what I can to convince Mala I am town. Stop making crap up. You want me to tell you everything in the QT? That's where I told Mala I wasn't sure.
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
In the QT, I said that RBD should have not spouted the pairings because some people might have not caught on to it yet. Mala tells me RBD is a strong player and such. I then replied that RBD seems like she might not be scum because she's willing to hammer her lover. I also told her specifically that I couldn't make a case on CFR cause it's hard and if that she had any questions to ask me. You can ask Mala to verify I'm not bullshitting.
The only reason I forced myself to make a case on the 3 of us is because I don't gamethrow.
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
Town you wouldn't care. You just wouldn't care which of us was scum. You would go, "I think Mala is town, this is the easiest endgame ever." Then you'd vote and your vote would sit there all day and you would try to reassure Mala and me/RBD that you were town and that makes us the right lynch. Instead you postured all day long pretending to be really thinking it over and tried not to push too hard because you didn't want to rock the boat.
In post 429, CF Riot wrote:Town you wouldn't care. You just wouldn't care which of us was scum. You would go, "I think Mala is town, this is the easiest endgame ever." Then you'd vote and your vote would sit there all day and you would try to reassure Mala and me/RBD that you were town and that makes us the right lynch. Instead you postured all day long pretending to be really thinking it over and tried not to push too hard because you didn't want to rock the boat.
You don't know me that well enough to make that assumption. You don't know my meta.
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
I was never confident 100% that Mala was town until RBD tested the waters and stacked on my vote on you. When Mala didn't hammer, it seemed like Mala was town from there.
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
Meta has nothing to do with it. It's a common sense play given the state of the game. I know it's more obvious to me since I'm the one arguing with you but really, your defenses suck so bad. You probably would've been better off just taking the Mala vote and shutting up until one of me or Dashie caved. I'm done with this game. I've pointed out why you're scum and the only reason people are still willing to vote me is because they assume I could play this town as scum and you could play this bad as town. I'll see you guys when the flips are posted, there's nothing left for me here.
But still not by much. There are just a few things that CFR has said that I dont see him having said as scum, trying to chip away at IAUN town read, some direct interaction with OOTN, calling grey town D1 (then again D2 happened but...)
I guess ball back in Malas court now. Im not going to make a big case on why he should shift over to Bit here, its admittedly really close - normally there is a clear choice in endgame. This is where I am though and yay.
Well... its sorta off D1 Bit is the obvious pick for scum. Everything post D1 its CFR as the obvious pick for scum. Im at the point where im not sure if I should trust the interactions with OOTN or just how im reading players, so im basically dodging voting by leaving it all up to Mala unless something just jumps out at me.
When it comes down to trusting interactions or trusting reads I think im going to go with the reads in a situation where interactions may be tainted simply due to virtue of odd setup. Its basically a coinflip, far and away Bit has read more as town in the post day one play, and its really hesitation to vote OOTN that is the big strike against them. Maybe I need to play more or less of these altered setups because its apparent my theory doesnt match most others which is just going to make it all that more difficult to play late in them, one trick pony doesnt last much past the first few days.
Ah well, we will see. Whoever was scum played a pretty decent game and at this point im just tired of it.
It is an indeed odd setup. I believe I messed up the most by attacking CFR over you because you exposed yourself more than CFR to attacks which I didn't capitalize. I was so worried about you breaking this game that I froze when I saw you replace into this game. Fortunately, Mala was more convinced that I was town over you two which was probably the tipping point which let me win.
As I said before, if you can find the pair that's pure, you pretty much can win this really easily. In all honesty, if you claim lovers or don't claim lovers, it really doesn't matter. Claiming lovers as I've seen doesn't do much. Also, it's in scum's best motive to distance/bus in some way because there's a good chance one of them will go down.
"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."
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