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Post Post #4325 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 5:16 pm

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In post 4268, ZZZX wrote:I asked you before I 180 on my venge if you can hit scum 100% tomorrow.


This guy here is fearmongering. Everyone know that if someone claims to be able to hit scum 100%, they are lying and should be lynched instead. Nobody who is town should be answering "I am 100% hitting scum".

And even if I am the super sonic, who can 100% hit scum,

it's
mollie
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hammer
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Fuck the venge,

you're scum.

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Post Post #4326 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:00 pm

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You know why the biggest reason you are scum ZZZX?



http://poanon.forumotion.com/t13p300-ju ... -game-over

I am playing the same as here, except more experienced, so that I didn't get lynched in Day 1 today.

http://poanon.forumotion.com/t13p325-ju ... -game-over

I was Blaine Anderson with the fake Caps and punctuation, I caught most of the scum {Sebastian, Emma, April, Finn} (4/5) and they were all on my wagon.

http://poanon.forumotion.com/t13p150-ju ... -game-over

There was a
SIMILAR SPATE
of posts 1v1 where me vs ZZZX took up 3 pages (which made many think that it was a Me/ZZZX scumteam, scum had a LOT of ammo against us for that)

ZZZX is PRETENDING that THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.

He calls upon past metadefense to save himself from Grey, but he ignores that I am 100%
TOWN
from the exact same example!


So, Z, why don't you READ THAT GAME AGAIN AND
TELL US ALL ABOUT IT YOU DITTY SCUMFUCK


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Post Post #4327 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:04 pm

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I'm here now. You can all calm down!

(Hope you didn't lynch me?)
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Post Post #4328 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:09 pm

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In post 4284, Alchemist21 wrote:I'm starting on the pain in the ass of going through Sonic's ISO, and I need to ask something.

@Sonic, in the early game you said you spent 5 tokens on your games and got all the games you wanted, then you said you lied about taking tokens after seeing the player list because your team wanted the token distribution a secret. If you had no tokens to spend on alignment, then what distribution was there to keep secret?


Oh yeah, I forgot to respond to you. Zoraster approved my post.

We spent 3 tokens on our games, to get the games we wanted, so we had 2 tokens left. I spent 1 Town token for this game because it was imperative that I rolled town here as a faction more likely to win in such a setup. Shos spent 1 Scum token for his game because he loves playing scum so much, but his game rerolled without tokens so they were wasted -___- Because there were scum tokens spent, we agreed not to talk about tokens at all in all our games, so basically earlier I was trolling and saying ignorable shit for lulz.

No, for obvious reasons I did not spend 5 tokens on all of my team's games, I'm not sure how you didn't figure out that it was a joke?
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Post Post #4329 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:15 pm

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In post 4327, ooba wrote:I'm here now. You can all calm down!

(Hope you didn't lynch me?)


Hey, Ooba,

ZZZX just moved you to his 2nd top scumread. Even though he was previously able to 'townblock' you.

You'd better fix that.

Or don't, whatever.
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Post Post #4330 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:18 pm

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In post 4329, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4327, ooba wrote:I'm here now. You can all calm down!

(Hope you didn't lynch me?)


Hey, Ooba,

ZZZX just moved you to his 2nd top scumread. Even though he was previously able to 'townblock' you.

You'd better fix that.

Or don't, whatever.

Does the bolded mean you think I'm scum with him?
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Post Post #4331 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:24 pm

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In post 4330, ooba wrote:
In post 4329, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4327, ooba wrote:I'm here now. You can all calm down!

(Hope you didn't lynch me?)


Hey, Ooba,

ZZZX just moved you to his 2nd top scumread. Even though he was previously able to 'townblock' you.

You'd better fix that.

Or don't, whatever.

Does the bolded mean you think I'm scum with him?


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Post Post #4332 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:41 pm

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Even after this?

In post 4190, ooba wrote:
In post 4189, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4158, Metal Sonic wrote:ooba, answer me this later when you've caught up.

Grey (if town) ultimately caught Sotty + Kagami, which we both could not have done; we both did catch Sotty but Kagami slipped by our fingers (you called kagami town and almost derailed her lynch. Thankfully lynch inertia pushed it through despite your intervention).

If Grey venges would you trust him to do it right despite it being counter intuitive? I mean we may think he is wrong but we might be the wrong one here.



Even if you think zzzx is town, let's say hypothetically grey flips town. Will you follow the venge?

I think a grey lynch has set gears in motion. We'll scumhunt\theorize but I think ill follow venge
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Post Post #4333 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:54 pm

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using shiny letters does not make ur case better. I will crush your case m8 really soon today, but right now I am sure about you.

yes I flip my reads and re-read. yes i turned my read but it wasnt a 180. also titus's is wrong on 2 people fmpov. you can bullshit ur way saying it has one flip in the buttom and I am not confirmed but guess what? the way i see it it has 2 town in the buttom. 1 scum in the top.

but really this is scum sonic right here. I am pretty sure of that.
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Post Post #4334 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:56 pm

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In post 4329, Metal Sonic wrote:ZZZX just moved you to his 2nd top scumread. Even though he was previously able to 'townblock' you.

I promised my team mates to follow mollie and try to help mollie catch scum.

if mollie wants an ooba dead then I wouldnt mind

but this play from you metal is bullshit.

within 3 hours actually I will take your whole post and turn it into pieces I will prove wrong

and I mean the reaction of soft defending. not how you react with us as people. is it that hard to understand?
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Post Post #4335 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:57 pm

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VOTE: metal btw

I never liked ooba wagon composition anyway
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Post Post #4336 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 7:58 pm

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Also metal remeber when i said that my scum reads do not matter most of the game since I am town hunting? thats why ooba's read fell. his town read got weaker than zar's. right now I am trusting in zar and mollie as town and thats it.
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Post Post #4337 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 8:07 pm

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In post 4332, ooba wrote:Even after this?

In post 4190, ooba wrote:
In post 4189, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4158, Metal Sonic wrote:ooba, answer me this later when you've caught up.

Grey (if town) ultimately caught Sotty + Kagami, which we both could not have done; we both did catch Sotty but Kagami slipped by our fingers (you called kagami town and almost derailed her lynch. Thankfully lynch inertia pushed it through despite your intervention).

If Grey venges would you trust him to do it right despite it being counter intuitive? I mean we may think he is wrong but we might be the wrong one here.



Even if you think zzzx is town, let's say hypothetically grey flips town. Will you follow the venge?

I think a grey lynch has set gears in motion. We'll scumhunt\theorize but I think ill follow venge


the problem is that you have not theorized OR scumhunt nor supported the venge with a vote. so I am not exactly sure what the point of this post is?
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Post Post #4338 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 9:02 pm

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If you're scum reading me, you're either scum or you need to get better at the game.


My town motto has always been 'My reads are my shield' and I've been 20/20 this game.

If you think I'm scum, you need to explain me
a) Bussing two of my partners out the gate while STRONGLY trying to avoid Nacho's (a strong player's) lynch
b) Being right about both previous mislynches on D4
c) Setting up 1:1 on D4 as scum with MS

In post 1871, ooba wrote:
In post 1869, Metal Sonic wrote:What makes you so
sure
?

Posting. And his suspicions.

This is where I am right now: Sotty\Kagami and 2 from {Zar, Wgeu, Mollie}

Nacho-scum would have never pushed Sotty\Kagami\Zar.


^Pedit: Agreed that the Nacho wagon {ABR, MS} is town. But it's also wrong.


In post 2966, ooba wrote:
In post 2956, ZZZX wrote:Okey I am not killing anyone but zar right now,. if he flips scum then we lynch ooba as a 100% partner

You go ahead and do the following

Lynch Zar: Will flip town
Lynch Grey: Will flip town
Lynch Wgeurts: Will flip town

Call me back when you want to lynch scum.
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Post Post #4339 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 9:16 pm

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Let's go over this one by one.

First,
Zar is obvtown
. He's also played like a person with no endgame in mind. (as scum are akin to do)
- His pushing of the scum
- His calling GreyIce conftown on D5
- Him still calling me town when scum-zar would have been better served by painting my slot town

I'm also backed up by GreyIce on this.
In post 4081, GreyICE wrote:Zar: Do NOT mislynch Zar. Lynch me first. If you think he's my scumbuddy, then my flip should convince you that's fucking nonsense. Anyone arguing for his lynch after that should summarily be strung up... well, at least vigged until we have 1 scum left.


@Zar: If you're scum, congratulations - you've won the game because I won't be voting you ever.


And before the ooba-Zar team is proposed again, let me keep repeating this until you see the error of your ways.

Post 1871 -
This is where I am right now: Sotty\Kagami and 2 from {Zar, Wgeu, Mollie}
Nacho-scum would have never pushed Sotty\Kagami\Zar.

Post 1871 -
This is where I am right now: Sotty\Kagami and 2 from {Zar, Wgeu, Mollie}
Nacho-scum would have never pushed Sotty\Kagami\Zar.

Post 1871 -
This is where I am right now: Sotty\Kagami and 2 from {Zar, Wgeu, Mollie}
Nacho-scum would have never pushed Sotty\Kagami\Zar.


You can comb through ANY of my SCUM games from the LAST EIGHT YEARS. If you find any post where I've strongly bussed ALL of my partners as a replacement in - go ahead and post it - I'll vote myself.

And MS you hypocrite - Meta wasn't applicable to me on D4 but suddenly is golden for you in post #4326?
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Post Post #4340 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 9:23 pm

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In post 4297, pirate mollie wrote:empire's iso looked really strong, the 1 thing that bugged me was that he left the game w/o leaving a trail but when I reread zar's I can see where he was still in the game and giving zar his reads as the game progressed. with that in mind and reading a town flipped grey's iso I can see a very natural progression of flow of thought and development of reads as well as a set of several reachouts which seems to come from a mindset of town. I think he is naturally just a low count poster but what i am seeing is full of content. he is now for me a strong town read.

Wait - you're town reading Zar?

Then who am I scum with?
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Post Post #4341 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 9:34 pm

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@ooba I totally agree with you zar read atm, right now my reads look like:

do not lynch ever:
Mollie

Do not lynch:
Zar

I will lynch if i have to today: ooba/alchemist

Dis is scuuuuum: Metal
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Post Post #4342 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 9:39 pm

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In post 4341, ZZZX wrote:@ooba I totally agree with you zar read atm, right now my reads look like:

do not lynch ever:
Mollie

Do not lynch:
Zar

I will lynch if i have to today: ooba/alchemist

Dis is scuuuuum: Metal

Why would you ever have me in the "lynch" category if you think MS is scum?
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Post Post #4343 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2015 10:13 pm

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In post 4342, ooba wrote:
In post 4341, ZZZX wrote:@ooba I totally agree with you zar read atm, right now my reads look like:

do not lynch ever:
Mollie

Do not lynch:
Zar

I will lynch if i have to today: ooba/alchemist

Dis is scuuuuum: Metal

Why would you ever have me in the "lynch" category if you think MS is scum?

because as a PoE there are 2 scum. you are the least likely but even if metal flips scum I would lynch you over say... mollie. and i think you agree on that point.
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Post Post #4344 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2015 2:54 am

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In post 4324, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4318, pirate mollie wrote:quote where i said you were super town cos i am pretty sure I have never said that.


Spoiler: Good evidence?
In post 3784, pirate mollie wrote:look at what and who is bringing hardcore analysis to the game and who isn't. metal is bringing it on, zzthing is bringing it, I am bringing it on I feel like wguerts is bringing it on in his own way. there are 3 players who aren't. grey, zarella and alchey.


Spoiler: No? Clear as day.
In post 3784, pirate mollie wrote:I have you, zzthing, metal as super town right now.


Are you satisfied?

In post 4315, Alchemist21 wrote:Sonic, you can read a slot based on the previous owner's actions, just don't expect the current holder of the slot to answer for their predecessor.


Alchemist. Listen here. I am giving you a
free pass
because of my relationship of ABR. I don't see you scumhunting, I don't see you giving compelling reasons for sudden read changes, and I don't see you pushing your scumreads. According to your most recent posts, you're arriving at me-scum because of "PoE", despite townreading me most of the game, and somehow you're clearing Z out of your "PoE" despite scumreading him most of the game. This is a wrong way to play, please believe in me if you're town. I believed in you(r slot), let's not break that trust because scum are shoving dirt on us.

In post 4316, ZZZX wrote:

anyway my reads at this stage


Town
Me
Mollie
Zar
Alchemist Image
Ooba
Metal
Scum


I will make metal case 2moro but i just feel metal is scum.


180!!!!!!



In post 4317, ZZZX wrote:also a tl;dr is this:

Dont be offended metal but generally ur reactions with kagami/sotty reminded me of organic mafia's reads and reactions to me and mollie.

add that to the fact that titus vca exists. you are a guy that doesnt follow people easily., yet you are just 2 steps away from worshipping titus vca even tho frankly it has been wrong so far. it felt as fake as kagami read list. Giving alchemist extra scum points tbh. but alchemist did great things today.

that and a few things including pure gut.


Image

Let's pretend that I am scum for just 1 second. 1 Second only.


Organic mafia's reactions to you and mollie are because me and you and mollie are BEST FRIENDS. so we are the BEST FRIENDS SCUMTEAM.

Here, I don't know who is Sotty so I cannot be acting similar to her, and only Kagami is my BEST FRIEND.

So I can't be acting the same towards Sotty, and since Kagami is my BEST FRIEND, I will be very nice to her, and she would not ragequit the game so sadly :(

bullshit.


Add to the fact that Titus VCA exists. I'm following Titus VCA?
Fucking misrep.


Even Alchemist isn't following Titus VCA "Oh lol my top scumreads are MS and Zar lol". And if Alchemist is town, Titus would be conftown to him.
So you are misrepping me.


"Titus VCA has been wrong so far?" ????

lets take a look here Image

bullshit.


"Pure gut?"

Fuck you and your pure gut bullshit.

Look at your bullshit gut to bullshit read people

In post 3470, ZZZX wrote:No matter how much i trust ika he is not god, people can be wrong.

also i feel you are town but something is fishy about you. i cant grasp it but my gut is telling me not to trust you.
(To Mollie)


Mollie was "lynchable" because of his bullshit GUT

hahahahahaha

In post 4317, ZZZX wrote:it felt as fake as kagami read list.


Do you know who's read list is as fake as kagami read list? YOURS.





Your tl;dr is all
misrep
and bullshit and
liar
and I don't think any good can come out of your "case"


I take back Zar. It's a ZZZX/Ooba scumteam. Look at him chainsaw the guts out of the lynch.

Mollie, you are being buddied to by this super fake reads maker. He's keeping the entire game lynchable, including yourself.

He's going 100% with the flow of the game, as dictated by you, and is just staying alive to win at 3p. If you trust him.


Don't turn into the Twin Trap people, Sonic. They lynched me because they thought the same thing.

Anyway, if you think it's Ooba/ZZZX then please switch back to Ooba. If he flips scum we will lynch ZZZX tomorrow.
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Post Post #4345 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2015 2:56 am

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VOTECOUNT 7.6Ooba (2) - Pirate Mollie, Alchemist
Alchemist (1) - Zar
ZZZX (1) - Metal Sonic
Metal Sonic (1) - ZZZX

Not Voting (1) - Ooba


With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.


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Post Post #4346 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2015 3:01 am

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In post 4309, pirate mollie wrote:eh i am wondering if I am putting that slot in a town pile for bad reasons tbh. BUT metal has been doing tat all game.

wis and i are looking alchey/metal but eh

the thing that is bugging me is in the vc and neither ooba or zzthing are voting. ooba has been screaming for metal's head all game, so why isn't he now? he has made 2 posts and is mia at a point in the game where I wld expect scum to fall back. zzthing is the venge kill but I don't see him really pursuing anybody, do you? this is how i expect scum to act at this juncture in a nightless.


Do you think MS has found alternatives to his lynch canditates all the time? Because distinctively, what remember them both Metal and ZZZX doing most of the time was the whole shifting stances. I've gone over part of ZZZX's first because off the top of my head, what I did remember of him was seeming to have a path of lineups that kept saving his suspects for later. Like in this exchange here and here with ABR his previous logic train had his team thinking Kagami was the most likely scum in that pool; and prior to that he had been voting her and then is like, he totally forgot he was voting that slot?

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Post Post #4347 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2015 7:03 am

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In post 4324, Metal Sonic wrote:Your tl;dr is all misrep and bullshit and liar and I don't think any good can come out of your "case"

Your tl;dr is all misreps and bullshit and
lies (or: you are a liar)


anyway why do you believe that? I am pretty damn sure about my town reads at the very least. in fact once we get at least 1 scum down I am ready to present my head on a silver plate if mollie demands it. thats how much i trust mollie at this stage.
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Post Post #4348 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2015 7:30 am

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In post 4346, Zar wrote:
In post 4309, pirate mollie wrote:eh i am wondering if I am putting that slot in a town pile for bad reasons tbh. BUT metal has been doing tat all game.

wis and i are looking alchey/metal but eh

the thing that is bugging me is in the vc and neither ooba or zzthing are voting. ooba has been screaming for metal's head all game, so why isn't he now? he has made 2 posts and is mia at a point in the game where I wld expect scum to fall back. zzthing is the venge kill but I don't see him really pursuing anybody, do you? this is how i expect scum to act at this juncture in a nightless.


Do you think MS has found alternatives to his lynch canditates all the time? Because distinctively, what remember them both Metal and ZZZX doing most of the time was the whole shifting stances. I've gone over part of ZZZX's first because off the top of my head, what I did remember of him was seeming to have a path of lineups that kept saving his suspects for later. Like in this exchange here and here with ABR his previous logic train had his team thinking Kagami was the most likely scum in that pool; and prior to that he had been voting her and then is like, he totally forgot he was voting that slot?

I'm a little behind with my iSOing, I'll get back on track on Monday after I'm back home. I'll be mostly V/LA until then.

quadz V/LA until May 5th


what is breaking my heart here is that you are going on v/la whil vote parking on a wagon that is unlikely to go anywhere and somehow you have managed to not comment at all on this nice shiny ooba wagon.
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Post Post #4349 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2015 8:02 am

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In post 4325, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4268, ZZZX wrote:I asked you before I 180 on my venge if you can hit scum 100% tomorrow.


This guy here is fearmongering. Everyone know that if someone claims to be able to hit scum 100%, they are lying and should be lynched instead. Nobody who is town should be answering "I am 100% hitting scum".

And even if I am the super sonic, who can 100% hit scum,

it's
mollie
who will be the
hammer
. So mollie is 100% responsible. If I get lynched, I am partially responsible for not looking town enough. But ultimately mollie is responsible.


Fuck the venge,

you're scum.

VOTE: ZZZX


with this:

There was a SIMILAR SPATE of posts 1v1 where me vs ZZZX took up 3 pages (which made many think that it was a Me/ZZZX scumteam, scum had a LOT of ammo against
us
for that)


why wld scum have a lot of ammo against "us" if metal thinks zzthing is scum?

I asked wis about it and he asked if metal was high. I said I don't think so he is just a kid but jesus christ i don't even know how to parse his posts anymore.

metal if you are town then you need to get a grip.
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