Advance Wars UPick!--Game Over..?

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Cabd

[Cephrir]

My inquiry to why orc wasn't voting Varsoon (and is the only inquiry into that particular topic as far as I recall) was more about him than voting Varsoon.

It's like you're not even reading my posts :'(

Personally I thought this was pretty clear!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

How do you eliminate orci-scum varsoon-town, considering that I still have a scumread on varsoon?

Otherwise, why did you think that I no longer have a scumread on varsoon, consdering that we talked about my ability to have multiple scumreads two pages ago?

[Ms Marangal]

Are we going to pretend that initial post wasn't just a reaction test that Mara realized was a reaction test and catered her response to or what

I realized he responded to my read on him the way he thinks I want him to?

He thinks you want him to assert rather confidently that you are scum?

He thinks I want him to respond to my scum-read in kind.

He probably knows that I intend to sort him, and that my read on him probably isn't as strong as I am leading people to believe. He's got more access to how my mind works as town, in real time because we've had more maraca town games than maracascumgames and this isn't the first time I've enforced a scum-read on a stronger player. I told him I wanted him to work for that town-read because it isn't going to be given.

I could buy 282 being partly genuine but the fact that he's made it clear that he's pulling strings behind the thread instead of directly responding to me. He's thinking, not acting and I don't like it.

I thought your read not being strong was pretty transparent considering you went on to promptly imply he was null!

I implied that him doing set-up work he was doing was null

[Ms Marangal]

ffery said something about it, in response to me I think but I still don't think this is outside the realm of possiblity for cabdscum

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: Cabd

Tell me things. Is it just because town-cabd wouldn't have construed your posts that way?

[Save The Dragons]

I didn't think taking your vote off of Varsoon to seek other targets was necessarily indicative of you trying to mislynch him. From my point of view town on town seems more likely.

I don't really understand the other part of your question.

[Save The Dragons]

The tell me things is cute, i like it.

[Save The Dragons]

Cabd has been rubbing me the wrong way all game, front and center with setup spec and fanciful ideas for how this game should be played. That's all fine and dandy but it seems like it could just as easily be a smoke screen. The more it happens the more it bothers me.

I really didn't like his post on Mara, it seems forced to me.

[Save The Dragons]

And part of it was just frustration, admittedly.

[Ms Marangal]

(because it probably was)

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I didn't think taking your vote off of Varsoon to seek other targets was necessarily indicative of you trying to mislynch him. From my point of view town on town seems more likely.

i know that you think we are town v town. the only thing is, in 376, you considered the possibilities of scum-scum and me being town. i'm just wondering why me-scum/vars-town never crossed your mind.

[Saki]

Catchup post:

well, at least:

don't claim abilities in neighborhoods tia

colored, resized, and underlined for visibility

VOTE: Saki

if this is serious then you suck

So Saki, you seem pretty invested in this game.

Short rant: Several people have expressed concern (and most of them in a not very nice manner) that I am playing mafia like a piece of crap. Which I was already aware of, but didn't quite care enough about. So the other day I had a conversation with a few people in sitechat who expressed similar concerns in a much nicer way which ended up with me coming to the conclusion that I wasn't having fun playing mafia the way I was and really had no reason to.

So I promised a few people, namely nati, tsq, and chamber, to play this game much better
and I promise the same to everyone else in this game

I'll try to play with the enthusiasm I had in FE:A or maybe the later stages of Ikaruga and with much more clearheadedness so please help me do that

Also I just like AW flavor

Town Cabd likes breaking setups.

The way I would have gone about doing that is by massclaiming what people

didn't

get in the UPick process.
But then I realized how horribly bad that could end up

"try" "handwave".

lol

Also, I'm gonna put this out there now, I am literally dayvigging the first person to suggest that anyone is any alignment solely because they are in X neighborhood. I will cut off your sex parts and feed them to you.

there goes 'dont claim nationalities'

If he slipped up and you think he's scum, is there any reason to not give us more info on what he did in the neighbourhood?

^

Cephrir I claimed scum bur you don't seem to care

nobody cares about you nottty

I'm Jugger, from Black Hole.
I do not know if I want to claim who else is in Black Hole, but it's pretty obvious that Cephrir and Ffery are.
My passive ability allows me to gain the ability of the first other player in Black Hole that dies.
My CO ability is three stars and makes me lose any abilities I gained in my passive, but in return makes me immune to all night actions but kills.

This isn't scum
So Cephrir is pushing a scumread b/c Varsoon claimed his abilities and ffery is pushing Varsoon b/c she thinks he's scum because he wants her to focus more attention on him
I don't see where this is going to be productive at all
can we drop it

Ffery didn't assume that I slipped and posted in the wrong thread. Ffery wanted to push me for role-claiming right away, but didn't explain any reason for the push other than that my role-sharing was a 'scumclaim'.

Cephrir assumed I scumslipped and posted in the wrong thread. This lines up right with when he started pushing me in the game thread.

So I'm willing to believe that the fact this revelation came Cephrir, who does not know if I am scum or not, but not to ffery (who would know I was not scum) is a good indicator of ffery-scum.

But I can't read Ffery and it's unfair to base judgments solely based on assuming stuff about fellow players.

k well this is basically what I agree with
Ceph/ffery and you all p much seem town atm
it took a nationality and flavor reveal to get three townreads but that's not a bad start

so is this role mod-meta-able

it;s natirasha
there is no 'mod meta'

I admit, my claim-in thread was pretty scum-oriented if you saw it as a slip.

I said that I would gain the abilities of the 'first of you assholes who dies'.

I also wrote in all caps that MY ABILITIES ARE FUCKIN COOL.
I also intro'd with a hohohohohohoho

'cus I like the idea of being backup role to my whole team of dudes.
and assuming scum has some crazy genius stuff to drop on us that won't kill us, then the ascetic thing seemed cool too.

Of course, this was when I didn't know that Alliances were mixed-faction
I also didn't know how star points worked and thought I could use my CO power every single night.

tbh I actually think this makes sense
so
yeah

My scum meta is to be under the radar

By being over the radar and blatantly telling you guys my intentions ill be townread

Nietherbof them are on my role pm

you rolled SK, didn't you

Varsoon gets town points for not replacing out yet.

this doens't strike me as particularly weird what are everyone's problems with it

So, basically, there's one of two things I want to do:

DIE RIGHT THE FUCK NOW so that there's PoE from my wagon and I'm out the game for being an idiot.
Stick around

to try to help scum

, even though I'm essentially a VT now.

:/

are you really just going to let that go with a ":/"






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FUCK THIS ACE

[Save The Dragons]

I didn't think taking your vote off of Varsoon to seek other targets was necessarily indicative of you trying to mislynch him.

From my point of view town on town seems more likely.

I don't really understand the other part of your question.

Is that not sufficient? It's also possible I didn't really give it much thought, but I was also rolling from your point of view, which was Varsoon scum.

[Ms Marangal]

By not voting him?

You keep bringing up people's lack of votes when it's very obvious voting today is all going to end up on scumsoon anyways.

I thought that was going to be me, I already have more votes than him anyway

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Oh my god are you guys really going to force me to push this varsoon wagon is this real life

pedit std: oh i see. sorry "indicative" is a big word right now

[Save The Dragons]

It was serious, Saki, you put more effort into the pre-game than I've seen you put into a game (Cave Story for instance).

[Brian Skies]

Its a read list, yes. that is where my gut takes me, atm and as far as cabd goes, if hes town and wants to be read as town, he can go and earn it. set-up spec is null, coming from him

I feel like you are playing devils advocate, though Brian.

I do believe the way Cabd does set-up spec is alignment indicative. How am I playing devils advocate (and if I am, I don't see how it's different from how I normally play)?

[Save The Dragons]

orc: I'd share a glass of whiskey with you but I'm going to drive to school soon.

[fferyllt]

ffery said something about it, in response to me I think but I still don't think this is outside the realm of possiblity for cabdscum

This bugs me.

It bugs me on a global, generic level so I'm going to vent.

My reads are gestalts and for that reason they change easily sometimes. A new post may completely change the illumination on a body of work. But, they are gestalts of what I think motivates not just what people say but the way they say it. I'm not going to write 8 paragraphs on all the nuances of the way something is said that makes me lean town or scum. But, that thought process is there. And It annoys the fuck out of me when someone brushes it aside and says "but they could do that as scum, too", when the person may not even be aware of what my "that" entails.

[Save The Dragons]

Brian if you feel Cabd's setup spec can be alignment indicative, remind me: you are town reading him, yes?

[BipolarChemist]

Ceph, I think DV is scum all the time when I play with him. I'm usually wrong

This makes me feel better!

Pretty sure the only reason I'm in this game is to make you feel better

Cabd has been rubbing me the wrong way all game, front and center with setup spec and fanciful ideas for how this game should be played. That's all fine and dandy but it seems like it could just as easily be a smoke screen. The more it happens the more it bothers me.

I really didn't like his post on Mara, it seems forced to me.

I've been getting a kind of off feeling about you so far, and this is a post that I think sums my awk feeling nicely. It feels way too generic for you and I get the feeling not enough is being said. Can you elaborate on why you think it was forced?

[Save The Dragons]

I just realized I stopped reading Saki's post after he insulted me.

hmm...

meh probably a good decision.

[Save The Dragons]

I'm never getting to school today am I

[BipolarChemist]

Oh my god are you guys really going to force me to push this varsoon wagon is this real life

pedit std: oh i see. sorry "indicative" is a big word right now

I preeetty sure we're all feeling like it's gonna be a Varsoon lynch today. People just wanna look down other avenues first.