Mini 1733: Jurassic Monkey - game over

[Wanderer-nl]

Sorry for my absence (at least I think it's been a while not sure, my rythm is gone to crap and with it my feeling of time)

The whole thing with Garmr and his townbloc with Firebringer is getting way too much attention. Nobody jumped when they were kidding around about becoming masons but when Garmr calls their townreading each other a town bloc everybody falls over it. We have 3 wagons; Archmage (kinda still my favourite), Pistachion (getting better) and Davsto (not sure about this one but also not against it)
Also, I have no real reasons to be scumreading Garmr, or Firebringer for that matter, so this really feels like a distraction. And Archmage was first to jump on it with his 217, then a bit later he unvotes Davsto because he's

considering to vote Garmr

then he says he just wanted to figure things out, now I didn't really get from his posts he really did change his mind, but still he intends to revote Davsto again. Pretty sure he will now that Firebringer put a fresh vote there...

I'll go read Davsto's iso because lately I've kind of been ignoring him (well, not ignoring him but brushed his posts aside as a VI-thing) but looking at how far we actually got with discussion I think Davsto is really lagging behind in terms of scumhunting, or at least trying to.

@mod: can we please get some more regular vc's?

(I see now the last one was a little over a day ago so that's not that long ago but this game is rather active so at least one every 24 hours would be awesome)

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

Well. That happened.

I have the impression that Garmrwagon is bad but I'll examine it in detail in a bit.

Yeah, I'm pretty confident that the case on Garmr is bust. It's a meta read, which makes me feel dirty inside, but my searching his post history seemed to suggest that the only time he's talked about townblocs has been when he was town. @Garmr, correct me if I'm wrong?

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Archmage

423: Why?

Considering the two suspects I've pushed so far (pistachi0n and Archmage) grew into major wagons shortly after I started pushing them, it'd be pretty absurd to accuse me of barely doing anything today. My postcount isn't all by itself a good reason for anyone to accuse me of that...

I'm not sure the logic of "I started big wagons, therefor I've done a lot" sits with me. It's not like you knew ahead of time those cases would become big wagons. I do agree that it's not reasonable to accuse you of being scum at this point, and definitely not on the basis of post count.

VOTE: Davsto

Returning my vote to where it was. Davsto hasn't become any more town-ish in my eyes.

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

Crap, forgot to respond to Post 442, but I quoted it. Guess that's what I get for posting in school. And not previewing before I post.

@Syn, I think it points to Garmr and Davsto not being scum-buddies, because the degree of vitriol and the lack of provocation behind Davsto's attacks on Garmr seems like it really can't have been planned before the first day. I don't think scum would try to bus a buddy on Day 1, just generally, and scum tend to be at least courteous to each other, even when they're "disagreeing." I don't think it can rule them out as buddies, but it definitely strongly points against it.

@Wanderer: I changed my vote away from Davsto because I was considering a vote for Garmr. I wanted to see Garmr's reaction. Since I'm now pretty confident he isn't scum, I'm moving back to Davsto.

[Davsto]

I am willing to lynch Davsto.
His responses to pressure have been scummy.

VOTE: Davsto

Explain?

[ICEninja]

Lol Davso you claim a whole lot of things are due to incompetence. You claim to have placed the vote before reading my pressure on you, yet you were SUPER on top of talking about Brit slang.

You, sir, are a liar and scum.

I'm very happy that this wagon is finally gaining traction.

[Scorpious]

Re-read Alch.. I see nothing..

I would support a Dave lynch today as well,however if he does flip town. I would be seriously worried about Mage.

[Scorpious]

only reason I haven't voted is because I'm not positive of the count..

[Davsto]

You claim to have placed the vote before reading my pressure on you

I did not say this.

[3dicerolling]

I've been sick and had school stuff, so I'll try to catch up to this tonight.

[MarioManiac4]

I really don't get the Davsto wagon.
Like, at all.

[ICEninja]

Yes, it was a coincidence that it happened after you started putting pressure on me. That's when I did the readthrough and borderline did a double-take when I saw that post.

I misread the double take part.

So how many times did you read my post on page 1 before you "realized" it was scummy?

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

I really don't get the Davsto wagon.
Like, at all.

I remember being nailed for something like this earlier...

Information instead of analysis, I think? Am I misapplying that term?

Can you tell us why you don't like it, go into greater depth?

[ICEninja]

No, information is "There are people voting for Davsto. ICE made a case against him but I don't know how I feel about it".

Analysis is "I don't like this wagon", which is how I am interpreting Mario's post. Mario, please correct me if I am wrong, and that you are actually confused by the wagon as opposed to being against it.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Davsto

Explain?[/quote]
You only respond when people poke you.
You are not actively hunting.
You are acting like ScumDavsto.

[Davsto]

Yes, it was a coincidence that it happened after you started putting pressure on me. That's when I did the readthrough and borderline did a double-take when I saw that post.

I misread the double take part.

So how many times did you read my post on page 1 before you "realized" it was scummy?

As the game went through the first 10 pages or so, I skimread it for various reasons and barely paid attention. Then I read through and went "wait seriously what"

[Davsto]

VOTE: Davsto

Explain?

You only respond when people poke you.
You are not actively hunting.
You are acting like ScumDavsto.[/quote]
I'm sorry you feel this way.

[Scorpious]

No, information is "There are people voting for Davsto. ICE made a case against him but I don't know how I feel about it".

Analysis is "I don't like this wagon", which is how I am interpreting Mario's post. Mario, please correct me if I am wrong, and that you are actually confused by the wagon as opposed to being against it.

I agree with this..

UNVOTE: mm4
VOTE: Archmage

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

No, information is "There are people voting for Davsto. ICE made a case against him but I don't know how I feel about it".

Analysis is "I don't like this wagon", which is how I am interpreting Mario's post. Mario, please correct me if I am wrong, and that you are actually confused by the wagon as opposed to being against it.

I guess that makes sense?

"I don't like this wagon" was Mario's post. I just wanted to hear more. It just seemed to me that "I don't like this wagon" was a statement of fact rather than an interpretation of it.

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

No, information is "There are people voting for Davsto. ICE made a case against him but I don't know how I feel about it".

Analysis is "I don't like this wagon", which is how I am interpreting Mario's post. Mario, please correct me if I am wrong, and that you are actually confused by the wagon as opposed to being against it.

I agree with this..

UNVOTE: mm4
VOTE: Archmage

Being voted for because I asked a question, and because I was looking for more information, makes me sad.

[Alchemist21]

Is that L-1?

[MarioManiac4]

No, information is "There are people voting for Davsto. ICE made a case against him but I don't know how I feel about it".

Analysis is "I don't like this wagon", which is how I am interpreting Mario's post. Mario, please correct me if I am wrong, and that you are actually confused by the wagon as opposed to being against it.

I agree with this..

UNVOTE: mm4
VOTE: Archmage

And being wrong is scummy, exactly why?
I'm pretty sure you are looking for an excuse to join the TAL wagon.
VOTE: Scorpious

And yes, I'm saying I think Davsto is town as I can relate to his thought process, and do not understand the case on Davsto being Mafia-aligned.

[Alchemist21]

Is that L-1?

Nvm this. 3 ppl moved off since that last vc.

[ICEninja]

Scorp voted Archmage for not fully understand IIoA.

Hrm.

[Scorpious]

What is that acronym ICE?

[Alchemist21]

Scorpious looks the same to me as they did in o611. If we're not lynching Archmage today then it should be Pistachion.