Open 227 - Friends and Enemies

[Ythan]

RVS discussion is no more pro-town than any-other-stage-discussion.

[ZeroFang]

See, the only purpose of RVS is to start having a conversation. Without a conversation, we can't hunt scum cause there's nothing to go on.

You see my double vote (unintentionally, I might add) started this discussion. Don thought it was suspicious, so he spoke up. Now we're out of RVS (I think). Thus RVS has served it's purpose, and we can move on to more substantial conversation.

[Ythan]

Actually I thought it was suspicious. And I know what RVS is and is for. And I know that it is useless and your complains aren't really valid.

[Octupis]

RVS discussion is no more pro-town than any-other-stage-discussion.

Yes, I see. My point was though, that the RVS is an oppurtunity for certain discussions to begin, like the point raised by Don about Zerofang's behaviour. However, the RVS could allow for further points to be developed if it is allowed to take its natural cause. I just thought it was peculiar that Don was trying to restrict the size of a stage that could be more fruitful that it seems to have been. Although I see your point.

And I know that it is useless and your complains aren't really valid.

Who was this comment directed at?

[XScorpion]

My point was though, that the RVS is an oppurtunity for certain discussions to begin, like the point raised by Don about Zerofang's behaviour.

Unless Zerofang is scum then this was still a waste of time.
RVS almost always is a waste of time, unfortunately I don't think anyone has found a more productive way to start a game...

However, Zerofang is dodging my questions. I hate when people dodge my questions.

unvote
Vote: Zerofang

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

unvote, vote: a knotted rope

He was the first person to put a vote on ZeroFang, and hasn't commented since. I'd like to see input from him.

[AKnottedRope]

unvote, vote: a knotted rope

He was the first person to put a vote on ZeroFang, and hasn't commented since. I'd like to see input from him.

wow. good catch there. i didn't even notice that. he jumped off the lead bandwagon without even mentioning it. lets get out of the rvs. my vote stands.

He was the first person on the wagon too. I like my vote as well.

Your argument is invalid

[AKnottedRope]

Also, I'm going to the lake for the weekend, so

V/LA

Until the weekend.

[AKnottedRope]

EBWOP

Also, I'm going to the lake for the weekend, so

V/LA

Until the weekend.

should be "until monday"

Noted.

[chauchaudotcom]

unvote, vote: a knotted rope

He was the first person to put a vote on ZeroFang, and hasn't commented since. I'd like to see input from him.

Why does being the first to vote Zero deserve a vote? Particularly given you already had a random vote out.

[Xite91]

V/LA for a bit, internet is down, but I'll be on as much as possible

Aside from that

unvote

we seem to be out of RVS and XScorpion doesnt seem scummy to me yet.
there is another way to start games, but it's about as productive. You start by asking random questions and generating ideas on personality (it turns into a REALLY short RVS for the most part though, that's how we would start our irl games here)
Also, my two best choices purely from reads for scum are octupis and Smash Bros

Noted, also as long as it's less then 48 hours though you don't officially need to V/LA.

[XScorpion]

Any particular reason for those reads or is that just a gut feel?

[Xite91]

@Mod it might be longer

@XScorpion sorry, I'm used to that meaning a gut feeling (I play irl so there's little to no reading )
and I mean Smashbro, sorry playing another game with Super Smash Bros Fan, mixed their names up

[ZeroFang]

Also if you felt bad then why didn't you mention it in the first place instead of just throwing a second vote out? Did you want us to ignore your first vote?

It's kinda weird to explain that you felt bad just randomly so I didn't mention it until I was questioned about it. It's one of those things like taking the urinal right beside the only other guy who's using one. It's just weird to me. I didn't care if you ignored my other vote or not, but I did forget to unvote. Sorry for skipping over your questions.

@Xite I know you're V/LA now but playing on the forums is WAY different than the IRL game. The mechanics are the same, but there's no "reading" people from facial expressions or verbal queues. By the same token, the best scum are the ones that blend in perfectly with the town. It's a forum, so you can write whatever you want in whatever mindset you want. You don't have to worry about your voice being too shaky when you claim vanilla.

[chauchaudotcom]

Zero, can you answer Don's question as well?

why did you "feel bad" when someone else voted ythan?

[ZeroFang]

I noticed two other people voted him. I didn't mean to start a bandwagon on Ythan for being awesome, so I felt somewhat responsible. Another reason I changed it was to spread out the votes incase more people happened to voted for him. I wouldn't want to cut today off after 48 hours on a RV wagon. That's just stupid and a little mean.

[chauchaudotcom]

Why were you worried about whether or not a bandwagon started on Ythan? Even if a random wagon started, it takes seven to lynch (and he was only at 3). I have yet to see anyone quicklynch during the first 48 hours based purely off random votes. It would be a stupid move from both scum and town.

[ZeroFang]

I've seen it happen once before. Maybe it was just a fluke, because I've never seen anything quite like it again.

[Ythan]

unvote, vote: a knotted rope

He was the first person to put a vote on ZeroFang, and hasn't commented since. I'd like to see input from him.

wow. good catch there. i didn't even notice that. he jumped off the lead bandwagon without even mentioning it. lets get out of the rvs. my vote stands.

He was the first person on the wagon too. I like my vote as well.

Your argument is invalid

Then you damn well better explain why.

[ZeroFang]

Because he had commented after voting?

[Ythan]

Don't answer his questions for him.

[Sanxion]

QFT:

Don't answer his questions for him.

Also, Lowell hasn't even posted... is this normal behavior for someone to just not show up?

On don: Good point.

unvote

I disagree with Oct, and I think that this is a fine way of leaving the voting stage since the criticism is valid.

I don't like not having a vote, but really, I just don't have any reason to maintain it on you, so I'll just hold it for now.

@ZeroFang: Why do you say you felt "bad?" Were you worried others might criticize you for having voted him first? Why not question those who dogpiled on him after you?

[Ythan]

I've played with Lowell once and if he flakes and we get a replacement it won't be so bad for anyone.

[don_johnson]

lowell rocks. please don't hate. when he shows up he's good.

[Ythan]

As I have said my experience with Lowell is limited to one game, one game in which he was woefully anti-town.