130.Mirror Mafia - Game Over

[Thor665]

vote pine

for not posting yet

You can honestly look at Zombeh and Twistedspoon and decide the guy who hasn't posted yet looks more scummy? Hww does that work?

@evilpacman - as exciting as the strategy discussion of your role is, I have $5 that says it's also possible to scumhunt while that is going on.

[Ion67]

Vote: Acronach

for having pacman as their avatar but not in their name

[Acronach]

vote pine

for not posting yet

You can honestly look at Zombeh and Twistedspoon and decide the guy who hasn't posted yet looks more scummy? Hww does that work?

random voting stage. operative word: random

[Bub Bidderskins]

Evilpacman and Acronach having very similar avatars is messing with my head .

[Acronach]

ya, just switched back to my old avi so i could say "brace for epic" lol. gonna switch it back now since its bugging you.

[evilpacman18]

vote pine

for not posting yet

You can honestly look at Zombeh and Twistedspoon and decide the guy who hasn't posted yet looks more scummy? Hww does that work?

@evilpacman - as exciting as the strategy discussion of your role is, I have $5 that says it's also possible to scumhunt while that is going on.

Zombeh I can see. However you're voting Twistedspoon for having the exact same thought I had when CJMiller said "at the" so I'll disagree on that one.

[Quilford]

1. Your boss comes out with an important project and gives it to you. It is extremely hard, but if you complete it by yourself, you get all the praise and a raise. Do you work alone, or gather a small group to work with you?

2. You begin playing a new strategy game you have never played before. You are going to play this game with your friend in 3 days for an unknown prize. Do you study yourself, or use a computer to assist you in mastering it?

3. You are tired and walking home one day when someone hops off their bike and leaves it unlocked to quickly buy some groceries. Do you steal the bike and ride home?

4. 2+2= ?

1. I gather a small group.
2. I study myself.
3. Of course not.
4. 5

[Quilford]

Oh, and random vote
VOTE: Bub Bidderskins
for having the number which is the digital root of mine.

[Thor665]

random voting stage. operative word: random

No votes are random, all votes have meaning. Otherwise it would be impossible to leave RVS.
If you really are just "randomly" putting out a vote, how about you vote in support of someone who claims to have information? Maybe I'm a Daycop and you should back me. This isn't the newbie queue y'know

Zombeh I can see. However you're voting Twistedspoon for having the exact same thought I had when CJMiller said "at the" so I'll disagree on that one.

So you're not voting Zombeh because...?

@Quilford - your opinion on evilpacman's claim? Why don't you have one?

@Ion67 - your read on my scumtell on Twistedspoon or Zombeh please, I'm curious to hear why they're so weak you won't back either of them. Clearly you have to disagree with them for some reason. What is that reason and why should I be voting whoever you're voting? (Acronach)

[evilpacman18]

Because it's the third page and he's posted once. Also I try to avoid RVS a lot of the time because of players like yourself (and cuz one time I got outed as scum from my "RVS" vote).

[Thor665]

What page do votes become acceptable at?

[Acronach]

random voting stage. operative word: random

No votes are random, all votes have meaning. Otherwise it would be impossible to leave RVS.
If you really are just "randomly" putting out a vote, how about you vote in support of someone who claims to have information? Maybe I'm a Daycop and you should back me. This isn't the newbie queue y'know

hmm... i see... good point
(cough) #57 (cough)
this is an excellent point indeed, so many votes and so much meaning in all of them
(cough) #51 (cough)
yes, i believe you've won this argument
(cough) #44 (cough)
i cannot find a single flaw in that logic of yours
(cough) #41 (cough)

in all seriousness though, my vote was probably more serious than any of the other votes currently up, so ya.

unvote

if it makes you feel better. its just a RVS vote anyway, not like im gonna keep it there.

What page do votes become acceptable at?

if you have a serious vote, then vote it. somple as that.

[Zombeh-Pug]

1. Your boss comes out with an important project and gives it to you. It is extremely hard, but if you complete it by yourself, you get all the praise and a raise. Do you work alone, or gather a small group to work with you?

2. You begin playing a new strategy game you have never played before. You are going to play this game with your friend in 3 days for an unknown prize. Do you study yourself, or use a computer to assist you in mastering it?

3. You are tired and walking home one day when someone hops off their bike and leaves it unlocked to quickly buy some groceries. Do you steal the bike and ride home?

4. 2+2= ?

1. Work alone.
2. Use a computer to assisst me.
3. No.
4 <--

@Ion67 - your read on my scumtell on Twistedspoon or Zombeh please,

How was my RVS vote scummy?

[Tasky]

VOTECOUNT 1.1

Twistedspoon (2/11): Thor665, Bub Bidderskins
Gollum (1/11): Zombeh-Pug
Bub Bidderskins (2/11): Twistedspoon, Quilford
Acronach (1/11): Ion67

Not Voting (15): Cecily, Kcdaspot, MrTrow, Zdenek, evilpacman18, flinter, Nocmen, TheJakalope, Gollum, Calcifer, Furcolow, Magister Ludi, Ctorj49, Pine, Acronach

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

Base-Time ends 29.04.2011, 22:00 CET

[Kcdaspot]

oh...

sorry i didn't see this start.
VOTE: cecily
dumbest name of the playerlist.
with magister ludi, and who ever this KC guy is taking 2nd and 3rd respectively..


...wait a minute..

[Kcdaspot]

i'm going to sleep

off of first impression:

thor and pacman are prob town.

dunno the rest.

bedtime kiddies.

[Thor665]

How was my RVS vote scummy?

Because you went out of your way to remove all evidence of your own opinions from the vote.
Also, you did a 21 number random generation, which meant you were even willing to consider a self vote.
Neither action strikes me as pro-town.

You've now also failed to comment on the claim we had in thread, did respond to the pointless questions in thread, and went immediately into defense of yourself.
Yeah - scum.

[Thor665]

in all seriousness though, my vote was probably more serious than any of the other votes currently up, so ya.

unvote

if it makes you feel better. its just a RVS vote anyway, not like im gonna keep it there.

Somebody totally missed my point.

If you see no value to the RVS why did you make the vote in the first place? (I'll presume the old standby answer of 'conformity to site meta' if you want to skip answering this)
Now that we've established you don't use RVS to scumhunt...um...what are you doing to scumhunt? I can't see it, and that looks scummy to me when i don't see scumhunting. What am I missing?

[Acronach]

in all seriousness though, my vote was probably more serious than any of the other votes currently up, so ya.

unvote

if it makes you feel better. its just a RVS vote anyway, not like im gonna keep it there.

Somebody totally missed my point.

If you see no value to the RVS why did you make the vote in the first place? (I'll presume the old standby answer of 'conformity to site meta' if you want to skip answering this)
Now that we've established you don't use RVS to scumhunt...um...what are you doing to scumhunt? I can't see it, and that looks scummy to me when i don't see scumhunting. What am I missing?

ya, mostly site conformity since i'm used to another mafia site. and it's too early to really scumhunt for anything. i'm defending myself against you, and i posted my opinioon on the claim. what else is there to do? do you want me to pick a random person and fos them?

[Calcifer]

I'm gonna do something that I've never done in a serious game of mafia. Claim in my first post.

I'm the Town Hider. I figure I can use this power in 3 ways. I can say who I'm going to hide behind BEFORE each night and if I die without the person I'm hiding behind dying then you have confirmed scum and if I live you have confirmed town. Or I could say who I hide behind AFTER each night and since I'm still alive you'll have confirmed town. Or I could not say anything and just protect myself.

Flaws in each idea.
1. The biggest flaw in the first idea is that without the aid of a doctor or other protective role scum could just kill who I'm protecting to get rid of two town in one night.
2. The second idea seems like a good one to me, I can't really see anything wrong with it unless the game ends up having third parties that scum are trying to find, I could potentially eliminate candidates for them.
3. This just seems selfish and a waste.

Also, acronach, gtfo my avatar. :p

^Town

The flaw in #2 is you just dying during the night and us losing information. But what the best thing to do is make a list 2-3 people you're going to hind behind then choose one during the night. That takes away the flaw of the both ideas. The only problem is we won't have an exact guilty, but that's perfectly fine anyways.

I'm gonna do something that I've never done in a serious game of mafia. Claim in my first post.

I'm the Town Hider. I figure I can use this power in 3 ways. I can say who I'm going to hide behind BEFORE each night and if I die without the person I'm hiding behind dying then you have confirmed scum and if I live you have confirmed town. Or I could say who I hide behind AFTER each night and since I'm still alive you'll have confirmed town. Or I could not say anything and just protect myself.

Flaws in each idea.
1. The biggest flaw in the first idea is that without the aid of a doctor or other protective role scum could just kill who I'm protecting to get rid of two town in one night.
2. The second idea seems like a good one to me, I can't really see anything wrong with it unless the game ends up having third parties that scum are trying to find, I could potentially eliminate candidates for them.
3. This just seems selfish and a waste.

Also, acronach, gtfo my avatar. :p

^Town

The flaw in #2 is you just dying during the night and us losing information. But what the best thing to do is make a list 2-3 people you're going to hind behind then choose one during the night. That takes away the flaw of the both ideas. The only problem is we won't have an exact guilty, but that's perfectly fine anyways.

town hider huh? seems familiar...
http://www.epicmafia.com/role/154

third party much?

Third party accusation without a vote?
DOES NOT COMPUTE.

VOTE: ACRONACH

Thor, Twistedspoon is not a D1 lynch, and Zombeh isn't scummy yet. So, let's unite and kill ACRONACH.

[Calcifer]

GDkrfdlkdlgfkdklfb

It always does that.

[Thor665]

Thor, Twistedspoon is not a D1 lynch, and Zombeh isn't scummy yet. So, let's unite and kill ACRONACH.

He's the only town read I have thus far. I'm nt sure about that wagon, what am I missing?

Also, why is Twisted "not a Day 1 lynch" If we lynch him Day 1 seems pretty functional that he would become one, so I'm pretty sure it's possible.

[Acronach]

town hider huh? seems familiar...
http://www.epicmafia.com/role/154

third party much?

Third party accusation without a vote?
DOES NOT COMPUTE.

VOTE: ACRONACH

Thor, Twistedspoon is not a D1 lynch, and Zombeh isn't scummy yet. So, let's unite and kill ACRONACH.

3rd party is different than maf. if the deadline gets close and we still don't have a good lynch, i'm voting pacman, but for now, that particular role isn't a threat unless they can successfully joint with maf, which is unlikely.

[Thor665]

@Acro - evilpacman actually isn't a Day 1 lynch - you let Hider claims potentially be weak cops, or let scum try to double kill them or something. After a while you can kill the hider or he dies and you get to learn about his weak cops. Basic, brilliant, and I have a beard so you should listen to me.

[Zdenek]

CJMiller's request for V/LA should not be treated as a scum-slip.

1. Your boss comes out with an important project and gives it to you. It is extremely hard, but if you complete it by yourself, you get all the praise and a raise. Do you work alone, or gather a small group to work with you?

2. You begin playing a new strategy game you have never played before. You are going to play this game with your friend in 3 days for an unknown prize. Do you study yourself, or use a computer to assist you in mastering it?

3. You are tired and walking home one day when someone hops off their bike and leaves it unlocked to quickly buy some groceries. Do you steal the bike and ride home?

1. Small group.
2. Depends on the game.
3. No.

Why did you ask these questions?

Using random.org to generate a number from 1-21 I got: 14.

Relinquishing responsibility for a vote is scummy.

Evilpacman, you probably shouldn't have claimed. As far as what strategy you should use now, I'd say aim to hide behind people you are leaning town on to confirm them, and claim them after you have a few names to give us, so that scum doesn't just kill off all the confirmed townies as you announce them. Maybe try to lightly breadcrumb it, so that if you die it won't be in vain. Or do what Calcifer suggested.

Regarding Pacman's claim:

third party much?

Doesn't answer the questions and fails to consider the claim as a possible town role, and instead jumps to cast doubt on Pacman.

Thor can be town for the time being.

random voting stage. operative word: random

Reactive and defensive.

in all seriousness though, my vote was probably more serious than any of the other votes currently up, so ya.
unvote if it makes you feel better. its just a RVS vote anyway, not like im gonna keep it there.

Bizarre appeasement.

Vote Acronach