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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2013 10:56 pm

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Vote Count 1.2


[2] Fuzzybutternut: Does Bo Know, Horus,
[2] Miss Destroyer: RachMarie, Malakittens,
[1] Grimgroove: Zionite,
[1] Zionite: Miss Destroyer,
[1] RachMarie: Fuzzybutternut,
[1] Horus: Wisdom,
[1] Wisdom: Grimgroove,

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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sat May 25, 2013 11:44 pm

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That was hardly an overreaction; the way he answered in 35 looked to me like he was accusing me of doing that on purpose (which would be scummy), yet he didn't clearly state it, so I wanted him to do so immediately.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 8:25 am

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In post 49, Grimgroove wrote:
In post 34, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: Horus

You're overreacting.
In post 36, Wisdom wrote:And what does this imply? That I am scum?
VOTE: Wisdom

For overreacting.

@Zionite: I don't like your vote on me and would appreciate it if you remove it.
Tell me what you think of Horus' behavior and I will.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:23 am

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What happened to placing a vote because they find a player suspicious.

Zionite is willing to remove his vote for a comprise.

Kay not liking it.

VOTE: Zionite
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:06 pm

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VOTE: Zionite

Contribution to town shouldn't have to be forced.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:48 pm

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The reason for my vote in the first place was to get content. I chose someone off the list who hadn't posted. I don't like the response so I'm leaving my vote until my read changes.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:49 pm

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Voting a lurker looks like you're wanting to get an easy PL lynch going.
Which is what scum does.
Yeah. I like my vote.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:54 pm

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I don't condone lynching someone simply because they're lurking. I'm the only one voting Grimgroove, so to act as if I'm trying to get an easy lynch is ridiculous. I haven't pushed a case for Grimgroove or tried to convince anyone, so how can you say I'm seeking a lynch? But I will use my vote for pressure whenever I choose; that's why it's there. I don't like Grimgroove's response to it so I'm leaving it there. I won't let you bully me out of it.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:55 pm

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Lol "bully you." Your vote obviously isn't contributing to town, like, at all. So the fact that you insist on keeping it there means you don't want to help town.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 1:03 pm

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Whether it helps the town or not remains to be seen unless you already know who the scum are. You can't know it's not helping unless you're scum.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 1:05 pm

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Umm...yes, I can, actually. Your vote as it is right now is useless, as we have no information on the slot. Tell me how that helps town?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 3:17 pm

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By getting more information than we have. That should be obvious since it's working.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 3:49 pm

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So what information have you gotten, Zionite?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 4:34 pm

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I think the response I got was an overreaction and quite telling, but I won't know more until I hear more. I think more votes on Grimgroove would be a good thing.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 4:52 pm

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In post 57, Zionite wrote:I don't condone lynching someone simply because they're lurking. I'm the only one voting Grimgroove, so to act as if I'm trying to get an easy lynch is ridiculous.
I haven't pushed a case for Grimgroove or tried to convince anyone, so how can you say I'm seeking a lynch
? But I will use my vote for pressure whenever I choose; that's why it's there. I don't like Grimgroove's response to it so I'm leaving it there. I won't let you bully me out of it.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:02 pm

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Hm... fuzzy is ignoring me. :igmeou:

As for Zionite, I don't really understand how you can simultaneously argue that you're voting someone to put pressure on the slot
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not pushing a case or trying to accomplish a lynch at all - that is the opposite of applying pressure to a slot. If you aren't willing to put some teeth behind your vote, I wouldn't expect to garner much of a reaction - or much support.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:07 pm

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I see a great difference between voting someone and actively campaigning to lynch someone. Each has their purposes, but I'm content with just a vote on Grimgroove. If I see something worth assembling the mob for, I'll switch to campaign mode, otherwise I see fit to simply vote and watch. You can apply pressure without the campaign in my experience.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:17 pm

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Hey, maybe it works, I wouldn't know - I don't try it on principle. Voting for someone and expecting them to feel "pressured" while also announcing to the thread that you aren't interested in actually lynching them seems counterintuitive to me - since the express purpose of a vote is to exact a lynch and the threat of a lynch is the only potential source of "pressure" I can see. Take that threat away and the pressure is gone.

"Hey, I'm going to park my vote on you, but don't worry: I'm not pushing a case against you and I don't want to lynch you. But... it would be really helpful if you would still panic so I can fish for reactions, please."
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:53 pm

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lol Horus, you said something? Lol. Sorry. :S
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:12 pm

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Zionite why are you voting someone who IIRC is on V/LA for Memorial Day Weekend?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 6:13 pm

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^because he's scum.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:34 pm

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So, I'm back. I see I'm being accused of lurking? I obviously forgot to state it here, which is my fault, but during the weekends it will always be very difficult for me to come online. I hope this is fine. I always try to make up for that in the weekdays.

As far as Zionite's question is concerned about Horus, two things:
Firstly: I don't see the connection between my apparent lack on opinion on Horus and the vote for me. Why are opinions on Horus so important to you, and why mine specifically?
Secondly: I'll humour you and answer your question though. In my eyes, Horus makes a lot of sense, his post was already quite robust, but for some reason it's called "flailing" and an "overreaction", something I can't agree with. I see a rational response to some half-baked allegations. I don't mind the allegations per sé, in the beginning they will always be half-baked and you have to start somewhere, but I don't agree with how Horus was treated on page 2. His "SLOOOOWWWW"-post shows the kind of commitment I like in a player. It's a null read affiliation-wise, true, but someone who obiously want things to move forward in a reasonable pace is 1. not lynch-material on D1 because of the activity this will provide. 2. not lynch-material on D1 because active people should be easier to get a firm read on.

@Zionite: And how was my reaction to your vote bad? It was a vote before I had even posted anything, so obviously without a real reason. How could anyone react badly to such a vote? I didn't take it seriously, so I just asked you to remove it in a simplistic manner, not ever seriously thinking that this alone would convince you. How do you see this as an overreaction?

I think my vote on Wisdom is also still in a good place. I think it's a very defensive interpretation of 35, and I don't see any reason for this kind of defensiveness, especially from someone who obviously is very sensitive to supposed overreactions himself.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:38 pm

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In post 68, fuzzybutternut wrote:lol Horus, you said something? Lol. Sorry. :S
This topic is 3 pages long. Why not just look for the question he asked you and answer it, instead of this fluff?
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:53 pm

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Fluff keeps a game interesting to read.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:05 pm

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Ok fluffyflufferfluff, I don't really see how that works but whatever floats your boat. I think the exact opposite, the game keeps the game interesting to read. If I want fluff I'll go check out the other subforums you have, where people talk about movies and stuff. That's all good, fun and interesting in itself, but I don't see the added value for a game. I'm assuming you were joking, but also your last reaction is still fluff and if fluff is all I can expect than I don't see any reason to keep you around.
The main reason I asked is because I'd also like to see you reply to Horus' questions.

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