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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 8:39 pm

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In post 184, mb53 wrote:Seriously?
... I do not think red was scum. Meh.

And BB isn't scum either.

Ok, so after some intense reading (and with more to do, I jotted down some quick thoughts along the way (sorry for those that have to skim through them). In no particular order, I sort of jumped around a bit:

- crypto and FF have been acting like neighbours the whole game. Makes me think the Mogri bandwagon is a mafia lynch plot.
- Psyche seems town, just a bit 'psyche'.
- "Lynch red tomorrow when I flip town" short posting and carefree attitude to cover up nervous scummyness.If red FF is scum as I assume, it might be another clever cover. Seems a bit scummy, but im not sure lynchworthy... Between the whole red/BB dichotomy, I'm going with red as scum.
- UberNinja seems pretty town to me
- Player that seems most scum to me, by way of gut feeling, was Matias.As the game went on though, he seemed more and more town.
- Inte rubs off as 'creepy', but not 'scummy'.
- Post 184 lol. He seems serious. I can't tell if this gives away he is town, or gives away he is scum, or neither. But lol. However, redFF's action in 193 is quite scummy.
- Mogri Post 264, scummy
- Post 296 mb is right, makes me feel more suspicious of inte
- Post 298 I disagree with Hiraki. This doesn't necessarily suggest Vifam is town, but I don't have any strong scum readings on Vifam or Hiraki anyway.

After this I sort of stopped and decided I am on the wrong bandwagon. I am going to read up more on Mogri but to me there is one player that rings a lot more scum alarm bells.

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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 8:52 pm

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Vote Count

4 redFF (Hiraki, Mogri, BBmolla, TeChNoWC) L-5
3 Mogri (mb53, crypto, redFF)
3 Nobody Special (noraaa, inte, UberNinja)
2 BBmolla (Psyche, BK201)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (Nobody Special)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 mb53
0 BK201
0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 TeChNoWC
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 10:22 pm

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Sorry for the messy post guys, happy to clarify on anything.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 11:26 pm

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My Glorious vote stands.
....what?



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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 11:48 pm

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In post 502, TeChNoWC wrote:Sorry for the messy post guys, happy to clarify on anything.


What are the exact reasons redff is scummy?
You can't step in the same river twice.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 12:15 am

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Mainly his neighboriness with crypto and bandwagoning, quick vote changes, and lack of scum hunting. Also his reaction to mb in post 193 made me cringe.

I'm going to check through later tonight and do a more thorough study, he is still five votes away from getting lynched so my vote isn't a game changer at this stage - I really didn't feel Mogri deserved a bandwagon and if anyone should have a bandwagon at this stage it should be red. Planning on checking up on some more of mogri's posts too because he did seem somewhat scummy, but nothing that stood out yet where I could go 'aha! So that's why he's getting flak!'. I had those sort of moments numerous times when reading through for red, even on page one, and I can certainly understand why he has a bandwagon for scum.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 12:18 am

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sorry, I am going to correct myself there and say 'lack of logical scumhunting'. He did have a few witty remarks for some, but mostly voted for people for stupid reasons and ignored the big ones.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 1:12 am

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In post 359, Matias wrote:
Blonde Doctor wrote:I do not understand this at all. This sounds like you are trying to scare us out of lynching you.

unvote
(I do not remember if I did this already)

I actually think this is scummy and will vote for him as soon as I get my other rereads done.


I think there was something I noted about kcdspot as well, but I will have to go back and check.


oh

Unvote, Vote: Blonde Doctor


1. Why the hell is desperation posting, ala BB, indicative of scum and not of EITHER alignment?

2. How the hell do you know that you're going to vote for him after your rereads are done? Why even bother doing the rereads?

Forget redFF, this is yuck.

In post 360, Matias wrote:if redFF really played Red Dead Redemption as a scum role, I no longer have a case on him.

I'm re-reading BBmolla tonight.


I'm not getting this. Your first of these posts seemed semi-rational, but it was wierd you actually 'voted' for Blonde as though his supposed misread automatically made him scum. And then in the very next post you seem suspicious of the very person Blonde was attacking? I don't understand.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 2:28 am

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In post 469, BK201 wrote:@ crypto noraa is pretty much null mang.
She went from scummy to null?
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 2:33 am

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All right, posts 486–490 just made everything worth it.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 2:38 am

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In post 500, TeChNoWC wrote:- crypto and FF have been acting like neighbours the whole game. Makes me think the Mogri bandwagon is a mafia lynch plot.
This is really fruity. I could get behind a redFF lynch though.

NS's vote is pure bullshit and he's not reading the game.

It really sucks that MM bailed.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 2:45 am

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In post 291, noraaa wrote:
In post 288, BK201 wrote:
In post 242, noraaa wrote:What excuse did I make for leaving the forum? Surely you aren't referring to my v/la...


this one, #65 "I'm probably failing for always being on my ipod in class.

I'm going to minimize you guys and try to work on my paper for a while."

so mb what's up?

Oh lol. I was telling them why I was gonna suddenly stop my part in the conversation. I've already addressed that shit several times so this should be the last!
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 2:46 am

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tech if there are neighbors I really doubt they can talk during the day. I think it's pre-game and night only.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:01 am

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In post 512, BK201 wrote:tech if there are neighbors I really doubt they can talk during the day. I think it's pre-game and night only.


No I wasn't assuming they could talk during the game, but they seemed really 'pally' during the first few pages of the game, making me think they both knew they were scum from pregame and they were targeting the same people to push up votes. Having reread through crypto's later posts I am not sure if I was correct with my neighbourhood suspicion; though I still consider that crypto has given up defending red since he's gone too far towards the 'scumside'. Would like to know a few things from crypto; firstly, how well do you know red from other games? Also, why are you keen on a red lynch? And if so, what are your reasons for voting mogri?? The more I read up on mogri the more 'scum vibes' I am getting but nothing stand outish, and red still seems more scummy; the whole neighbourhood theory being potentially false though has me somewhat reconsidering; maybe, by some off chance, red is just really bad at playing town.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:18 am

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lol
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:31 am

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I just went over all of red's and mogri's posts. Mogri says relatively nothing which seems scummy. He contributes very little. His 'detrimental to town' (he says detrimental twice) sounds like something a scum might say. Other than that, I see little on him.

red says a bit more, but always little tiny posts with nothing but dry humour or taunts, no real scumhunting. While I hate mogri's wording, he was right in saying that red's comment on inte was useless. How is someone being mafia in another game mean that they are likely to be mafia in this game? Unless you can show they are behaving tactically the same, which he made no comment to, how is it at all relevant? I don't find any of red's comments relevant other than when he declared V/LA.

Both seem lynch worthy, red more so.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:39 am

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Dude, why didn't you have a reaction to my post? You dropped the ball.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:41 am

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shhhh crypto I like this new guy, don't give him a bad time
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:42 am

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I'm not trying to give him a hard time.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:49 am

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BB would be my third option. His playstyle is very similar.

Going to look up on Nobody Special next.

The three stooges (and perhaps, a fourth) don't appear to be engaging all that much more in the thread, so I doubt we will get much more out of them.

crypto, I appreciate your 'lol', but more input would be helpful; if that's alright with you.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:49 am

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Hmm, OK.
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:51 am

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"Not giving him a hard time", he says...
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 3:51 am

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In post 516, crypto wrote:Dude, why didn't you have a reaction to my post? You dropped the ball.


Let's just say your flattery moved me. From that moment on, I knew you weren't scummy :)
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 4:05 am

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This is mint.

In post 470, BK201 wrote:I'd rather lynch BB cus anyone who quits after having a wagon on them early is probably scum who feels they were cheated(like they got unlucky day 1 and didn't get a fair shot lol).
In post 264, Mogri wrote:
In post 244, Major Minor wrote:This is really, really bad. You see, mb53? THIS is opportunistic wagon hopping where timing is an actual argument.

Oh yup that's totally what I did.

This entire redFF wagon is scummy.


Really?
Really?
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When he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.

Anyways we need a lynch soon cus the deadline is in 3 days, so my 2nd pick would be Mogri because he is getting too defensive about the redwagon being called scummy(which he was on), or he is busing his buddy and knows the red is scum("when he flips scum, I'm parking my vote on you.") that would give him town cred and also get a free lynch when he referred back to his post the next day. So yeah 2nd pick Mogri.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 4:10 am

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OK, TeCh. Point out where I defended or buddied up to redFF.

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