Mini 1722: Warcraft III - Reign of MAFIA (DOOM HAS COME)

Firebringer · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:00 am

So you gained nothing from my answer?
Thats what I gather from your post.

You instead talk about Bran, and call him town. Sounds like you trying to buddy him.

BRantz · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:03 am

In post 492, Performer wrote:I'm getting a disturbing feeling from Net. He spoke of being allied with Burning Legion (town), yet talks of eating brains and slaying humans. He said he was playing to his role pm but it doesn't give me a pro-town feeling. And at the end of d1, he doesn't want to lynch Fire (who kept talking about being 3p in d1).

This part specifically is where I see a scum slip.

Performer · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:11 am

I'm saying I wanted more information to build up my townread on Bran, but he suddenly votes me, which makes no sense.
I don't townread people only off a few posts or meta. I townread people based on post patterns, interactions, flips, votes.

@Shin when did I say you or Shiro are scum? Just because I'm not scumreading you guys, doesn't mean I don't call out scummy behavior.

-I asked her about her scumread of me, which looked like Fire's scumread (based on predecessor)
-She didn't reply yet
-You enter in the 1-to-1 discussion, with misrepresentation

Shinobi · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:13 am

If Shiro and I aren't your scumreads, who are your real scumreads then?

Performer · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:15 am

@Shin net and Int at the moment, I'm leaning scum on.

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In post 501, BRantz wrote:
In post 492, Performer wrote:I'm getting a disturbing feeling from Net. He spoke of being allied with Burning Legion (town), yet talks of eating brains and slaying humans. He said he was playing to his role pm but it doesn't give me a pro-town feeling. And at the end of d1, he doesn't want to lynch Fire (who kept talking about being 3p in d1).

This part specifically is where I see a scum slip.

It's pretty straightforward actually:
-Scum would want to avoid hitting Survivors, so they would prioritize killing town targets

But based on that alone, it's still not enough information for a scum lynch. Which is why I'm staying with my current vote.

Shiro · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:25 am

Hey I was calling Gale scum for his lurkish oh I don't udnerstand the game behaviours way before Fire. The fact he replaced out when the pressure hit him just sealed it for me.

Shinobi · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:32 am

Has anyone played with Performer before?
I'm kind of inclined to do some meta diving.

I know Silver has but other than that, who?

Vedith · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:36 am

I have... He normally refuses to say his role at L1, he goes quiet and gets lynched.
He's not been scum for me.

Shiro · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:36 am

In post 506, Shinobi wrote:Has anyone played with Performer before?
I'm kind of inclined to do some meta diving.

I know Silver has but other than that, who?

I have but on-going game can't speak stuff

Shiro · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:37 am

In post 507, Vedith wrote:I have... He normally refuses to say his role at L1, he goes quiet and gets lynched.
He's not been scum for me.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:58 am

In post 501, BRantz wrote:
In post 492, Performer wrote:I'm getting a disturbing feeling from Net. He spoke of being allied with Burning Legion (town), yet talks of eating brains and slaying humans. He said he was playing to his role pm but it doesn't give me a pro-town feeling. And at the end of d1, he doesn't want to lynch Fire (who kept talking about being 3p in d1).

This part specifically is where I see a scum slip.

Pretty much what I saw too.

If you don't want to lynch fb now, let's lynch this instead.

vote perfoermer

Performer · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:44 am

In post 505, Shiro wrote:Hey I was calling Gale scum for his lurkish oh I don't udnerstand the game behaviours way before Fire. The fact he replaced out when the pressure hit him just sealed it for me.

This game has flavor so he wasn't understanding it. Him not dealing with the pressure by replacing out - that alone isn't alignment indicative. It's a null tell.
Do you always read replace outs with a scum lean?
Anyone can replace out. I once replaced into a game where I was SK. I replaced into many more as town, this one included.

In post 507, Vedith wrote:I have... He normally refuses to say his role at L1, he goes quiet and gets lynched.
He's not been scum for me.

That's a big generalization after only 1 game.

Shiro · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:48 am

Yes I generally do. As I do excessive lurking (which some people consider null)

Call of the Wild · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:41 am

In post 480, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 479, Vedith wrote:I'm just looking to make sure that lynching FB is the right course of action.
Why do you want to rush this? I already said that I will vote that way if gets late to a lynch.

Why do I want to rush this? Because we are doing absolutely nothing. Nobody is posting interesting stuff. Everyone is hung up on Firebringer. He needs to go. Dragging the day is the best way to sow apathy.

This is scummy. Two new replacements entered the game and one hadn't even caught up yet and all he can do is scream for a lynch and say there's nothing going on when clearly there is.

What's the hurry? No one is going to let us NL and there is still conversation going on that you are ignoring in your rush to lynch FB. The more info. we get into D1, especially on two new replacements, the better.

Also, Titus has the flu so it's probably going to be me posting for a little while.

~SW

Call of the Wild · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:58 am

In post 466, BRantz wrote:Bard's fence sitting on every position he has taken this game doesn't bother you a bit? He seems to be hedging every read.

I haven't really seen much in the 10 posts to take note of except for the ones I said I liked but he doesn't look scummy when I read it. I would like to see more from him.

In post 467, Netherspite wrote:
@Call of the Wild, @Performer

Welcome!

@Call of the Wild

Why do you think that
Firebringer
should die? I believe it's a waste of lynch.

If you read my intro/catch up post, you'd know the answer to this question. Is there some reason you are not paying attention? Do you have any opinions this game outside of not lynching FB and wanting to eat brains?

~SW

Firebringer · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:05 pm

Okay Vezok is just getting on any wagon that exists and is being extremely lazy and pushy.
Its kind of annoying behavior >.>

Still seems like kind of town him though lol

Vedith · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:15 pm

Vez just wants to get to his NK option.

Call of the Wild · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:19 pm

inte's ISO looks like garbage and so does Nether's and so does Gale's. Vezo just seems like he'll lynch whatever is the most popular flavor of the moment. Performer's far too concerned with his predecessor.

Regarding the talk of replace outs-I scumread replace outs if they happen under pressure. If they happen because someone has hardly played or has a RL issue-I null read that as too busy to play.

In post 477, Shiro wrote:Performer might very well act town. Will that really change the fact that the slot is scum?

^
The words of singersigner in frog mafia about my partner who pretty much was like gale and his replacement did good at looking town

I generally don't like lynching replacements before they have a chance to catch up. Even if Performer is scum, what he says can still be important. If he's town, we def want to hear him speak.

In post 506, Shinobi wrote:Has anyone played with Performer before?
I'm kind of inclined to do some meta diving.
I know Silver has but other than that, who?

I've played with him when he's been town and when he's been scum. One game of each.

~SW

Performer · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:31 pm

In post 515, Firebringer wrote:Okay Vezok is just getting on any wagon that exists and is being extremely lazy and pushy.
Its kind of annoying behavior >.>

Still seems like kind of town him though lol

So...Vez is sheeping any wagon that exists
and you say that seems "like kind of town" of him

How is sheeping town of him?

I hoped we'd get momentum on the 3p wagon because of our situation. But then he comes out of the alley with an abrupt change in vote to me, because of a mythical scum behavior.

Call of the Wild · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:32 pm

In post 492, Performer wrote:
I'm getting a disturbing feeling from Net. He spoke of being allied with Burning Legion (town), yet talks of eating brains and slaying humans. He said he was playing to his role pm but it doesn't give me a pro-town feeling.

@Performer-Why is this scummy to you?

~SW

Performer · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:45 pm

In post 519, Call of the Wild wrote:
In post 492, Performer wrote:
I'm getting a disturbing feeling from Net. He spoke of being allied with Burning Legion (town), yet talks of eating brains and slaying humans. He said he was playing to his role pm but it doesn't give me a pro-town feeling.

@Performer-Why is this scummy to you?

~SW

-Claimed he's allied with Burning Legion (town). Ok, that's a slight good start. Not enough to townread off that but it was in the right direction
-Yet he keeps speaking of eating brains and slaying humans in his posts (none of that sounds town)
-He doesn't want to vote a 3p (Fire)
-He spoke of Survivors being able to play pro-town

It's way too risky for 3p to stick around to hope they will help town. Instead, they could end up contributing to mislynching town.

@Net do you have some townreads - if so, who are they and why? Do you have other scumreads too - if so, who are they and why?

FA_Q2 · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 520, Performer wrote:
In post 519, Call of the Wild wrote:
In post 492, Performer wrote:
I'm getting a disturbing feeling from Net. He spoke of being allied with Burning Legion (town), yet talks of eating brains and slaying humans. He said he was playing to his role pm but it doesn't give me a pro-town feeling.

@Performer-Why is this scummy to you?

~SW

-Claimed he's allied with Burning Legion (town). Ok, that's a slight good start. Not enough to townread off that but it was in the right direction
-Yet he keeps speaking of eating brains and slaying humans in his posts (none of that sounds town)
-He doesn't want to vote a 3p (Fire)
-He spoke of Survivors being able to play pro-town

It's way too risky for 3p to stick around to hope they will help town. Instead, they could end up contributing to mislynching town.

@Net do you have some townreads - if so, who are they and why? Do you have other scumreads too - if so, who are they and why?

What is your flavor character performer

Netherspite · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:25 pm

@Performer

I don't consider lynching survivor any useful.
I'd prefer to lynch scum like

vezokpiraka

or at least

inte

(I consider him less scummy but still scummy).

Regarding the roleplay: I liked my role flavor and decided to play for it.
Now I can't continue doing so because I need to express more than I can while roleplaying such a 'dumb' character.

Also, you seem to be completely misunderstanding the flavor factions in this game. You should read the beginning of the day when we discussed it and explained it to those who didn't understand.

Netherspite · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:31 pm

@Performer

I happen to townread

Vedith

,

Call of the Wild

,

Shiro

(he's semi-confirmed as his flavor is unique and not CCed),

BRantz

.

Netherspite · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:31 pm

In post 520, Performer wrote:
-Yet he keeps speaking of eating brains and slaying humans in his posts (none of that sounds town)

Yes it does sound town.
Read the game please.