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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:16 am

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Yeah that sounds like a nice test.

VOTE: Boonskiies


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In post 518, Wisdom wrote:I could see Klingoncelt being a guard to wake-king too


Nope. My connection to Wake is that he hosts most of the games at the site I came from.


This post is fucking disgusting btw.
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:30 am

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Day 2 Vote Count:

Boonskiies (3) - Wisdom, Anatole Kuragin, JasonWazza

ika (1) - Wake88
Wisdom (1) - Boonskiies
JasonWazza (1) - Flubbernugget

Not voting (2) - ika, Klingoncelt

With 8 alive its 5 to lynch

Deadline 11/23/14

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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:04 am

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In post 502, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 501, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 500, Klingoncelt wrote:He's cold-hearted and ruthless as Scum. Doesn't give a shit what someone thinks of him because he can simply NK the fuckers. Stated in his first post in another game's Scum QT that he won't hesitate to bus his partners.

I'm pretty sure that what we have here is Town Wake.


Yes but then consider the fact he has no night kill and also if a king has no way of knowing his teammates, wouldn't that possibly make him less townie.


That would apply to most of us though.

If he were king I'd expect the guards to defend him.

Want to do that? Start wagons on everyone and see who blinks? Might work.


You realize by declaring this, you completely undermine the possibility of it working, right?

It's like saying you're "pressure voting" someone.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:06 am

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In post 525, JasonWazza wrote:Yeah that sounds like a nice test.

VOTE: Boonskiies


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In post 518, Wisdom wrote:I could see Klingoncelt being a guard to wake-king too


Nope. My connection to Wake is that he hosts most of the games at the site I came from.


This post is fucking disgusting btw.


I agree with every part of this post, Jason.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:06 am

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In post 503, Klingoncelt wrote:@Ika - Will you promise not to hammer anyone for a while?


Why?
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:07 am

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In post 473, Boonskiies wrote:I wouldn't say this is necessarily town Wake, but I'd say this is pretty obviously town Boon. As scum, my reads are incredibly consistent. I don't care about anything when I'm town. If you guys end up lynching me today, lynch Wisdom tomorrow, 'cuz I'm town.


I don't know if I would say your reads are incredibly consistent - I remember using a legitimate case against you while bussing in DoctorPepper's game because you were inconsistent in your attacks day 1.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:07 am

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"I don't know if I would say your reads are incredibly consistent as scum"*
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:12 am

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my boon case from the game where we were partnered for anyone interested
Spoiler: boon bus
In post 1214, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 93, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 83, GreyICE wrote:Okay, so you want to be vigged.

The vig detector is now if Boonskiies dies overnight, if there's two kills and he doesn't we have a serial killer.



In post 88, GreyICE wrote:Who said you were town, boon?

You said that you would play in such a way that you would behave detrimentally to the town. The only reason to consciously do this is a meta game effort to make your scum play indistinguishable from your town play.

Not only is this against the spirit of this site (play to win the game you are in), it's a detestable, pathetic maneuver. You wish to be unable to read? Fine, I grant you your wish, a place on my blacklist , and copious bullets to pump into your corpse.

Vig, kill this useless piece of shit.



I'm actually beginning to believe that Grey may be a serial killer. He keeps talking like he knows there is a killing role out there other than scum's factional kill. Him bringing up the vigilante constantly to kill someone regardless of alignment is odd to me. Granted, I understand how he could be annoyed by the fact I said I would hammer, but come on man. I said I was a village idiot, I'm just clowning around. It seems as if he is trying to set himself up for a vigilante claim later in the game, which is another reason he's so out to kill me specifically. I'm being targeted to seem like a vigilante will kill me in the night, when in actuality, a serial killer will be doing it, and then he'll be able to fake claim Vigilante and get away with it. On the flipside, the possibility of him being scum, and hoping for a second kill to potentially get a mislynch is also a possibility. Anywho, with the stuff I have to go on now, along with the toxicity, I like where my vote is going to be placed.

VOTE: GreyIce

In post 101, Boonskiies wrote:I agree that his vig discussion is weird. I don't think he's crumbing vig either, as that wouldn't be the wisest way to go about it. Although he could be luring a NK to him, and if he is actually something like VT, I'd say it was good play.

I get that the SK is a little farfetch'd this early in game. I'm over analyzing. Kind of how like OMGUS votes are done by townies because the person voting them initially seemed scummy because the person is actually town. I still feel pretty safe with my vote there for now.


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@Rufflig - Well, I don't know how serious he is. I obviously switched up from my troll-like approach immediately after, and yet he still goes on being a toxic player, which in itself is kind of troll-like. I don't see how 'serious' of a player he can be with that attitude, unless he's scum, which him trying to get a lynch/3rd party NK on me would make sense.

In post 642, Boonskiies wrote:I'm looking for inconsistencies and ignorance. Usually I tend to believe people are super ignorant, when in fact they are just scum.


Speaking of inconsistencies - why did you stop speculating on the SK after dropping an early vote on GreyICE for pretty lax reasoning because you thought it might be him (despite not having any evidence whatsoever that an SK exists)?

In post 728, Boonskiies wrote:@massive - It was showing how often I speculate things like I did with the SK posts for GreyIce. I go out there with speculation.


So why are you going with the easiest vote in the game now?

My reasoning for voting him isn't necessarily based on his scum meta. I actually don't believe he's playing too similar to that game either besides prominence and willingness to accept a lynch on someone. In that game he lurked when things starting to cave in on him. I didn't pay a lot of attention to him in that game because I wasn't able to read him. I don't believe his meta from that game should be counted as any reasoning for his lynch toDay, but if someone else could argue otherwise, maybe. He also had stated that it was his worst game he's ever been in, so I would imagine that had some effect as well. I skimmed through that game again, and I really couldn't find any matches besides what I've already stated. But like I said, I don't believe we should scum read OR town read him due to that.


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@BBT - I will unvote if it comes to that, but don't expect me to stay unvoted if you can't back it up with new relevant reasons.


1) you say you voted BBT for "flip-flopping," as if this style of play is inherently scummy (particularly interesting because his flip-flopping is all on wagons nowhere near lynches) despite you defending your own style of play multiple times before this. (example, #706 where you FoS massive)
2) What "reasons" can he give you that he is town? What did you expect in response to this?

In post 819, Boonskiies wrote:I just want to get to day 2 already for new information. We've been rehashing the same thing for the past 20 pages.


This looks like pre-emptive defense for having put a recently-flipped town player to L-1 with weak reasoning. "He kinda looked scummy but we got good info!"

So let's consider what info we'll get as you have gesticulated on that on a few occasions.

So from your expert analysis - whether BBT is scum or not, TTH is scum, and if BBT IS scum then I am also scum. I also like to plant the seeds for future lynches without any real evidence early on in the game when I'm playing as scum.

In post 819, Boonskiies wrote:
Doogal/AK haven't been around lately. Scrambles/GreyIce slot seem off to me. Especially considering Omph didn't unvote after joining in and we haven't seen him since. Also scrambles was kind of random and didn't back anything else up. Definitely worth looking into tomorrow.


So in addition to BBT, TTH, me and Massive being suspicious, you are also suspicious of Scrambles, Jagged, and Doogal? Isn't that what you're saying here?
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:51 am

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Any thoughts? Anyone? Bueller?
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:04 pm

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In post 523, Wisdom wrote:I'd really like to see whether ika will hammer boon if brought to L-1


Are you sure Boon is the King?

Otherwise Ika will most definitely hammer.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:06 pm

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PS boon is probably king.
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:07 pm

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actually nvm it's 5 to lynch
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:11 pm

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In post 527, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 502, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 501, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 500, Klingoncelt wrote:He's cold-hearted and ruthless as Scum. Doesn't give a shit what someone thinks of him because he can simply NK the fuckers. Stated in his first post in another game's Scum QT that he won't hesitate to bus his partners.

I'm pretty sure that what we have here is Town Wake.


Yes but then consider the fact he has no night kill and also if a king has no way of knowing his teammates, wouldn't that possibly make him less townie.


That would apply to most of us though.

If he were king I'd expect the guards to defend him.

Want to do that? Start wagons on everyone and see who blinks? Might work.


You realize by declaring this, you completely undermine the possibility of it working, right?

It's like saying you're "pressure voting" someone.


Because it is pressure voting. But you're right, it likely won't work now.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:13 pm

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In post 529, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 503, Klingoncelt wrote:@Ika - Will you promise not to hammer anyone for a while?


Why?


Because if he's hammering, it could fuck up pressure voting. We don't want to accidentally lynch the wrong player, right?

But we aren't pressure voting now so it doesn't matter.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:15 pm

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In post 535, JasonWazza wrote:PS boon is probably king.


Well, okay then.

vote: Boonskies
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:16 pm

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In post 539, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 535, JasonWazza wrote:PS boon is probably king.


Well, okay then.

vote: Boonskies


He's L-1 now, right?
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:34 pm

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Yes.

Ika?
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:03 pm

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Prodding Flubbernugget and Boonskiies
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:03 am

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Wait, unvote. Anatole's probably scum. He brought up me bussing him in the game where we were scum, and he failed to mention the part where he told me to bus him since we had day talk.

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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:07 am

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And how is that relevant?
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:10 am

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Ok Anatole is like 99% town now.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:12 am

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Why?
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:16 am

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I'm still assuming boon is scum and his vote is really fucking bad.
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:42 am

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That doesn't mean Anatole can't be scum. If boon is a guard, he doesn't know his buddies.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:25 am

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Prodge.

Contemplating boons still

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