Open 595: Elemental Mafia (Town Wins!)

[TheReverend]

I started to ISO you but it's really hard to get any sense of context seeing as I'm not fully in this yet. You're very town toned, but then again I'm not even sure if I've seen you as scum. You're super fast to scumread me though, and you won't explain why, so you're making me nervous.

[TheReverend]

Wait pisskop is in the list of players. Is he in this?

[TheReverend]

Senator = pisskop?

[TheReverend]

Yea. Hi farside, domo, and Flubber!

Haha sup!

Your ISO isn't very scummy, and you're super scummy when you're scum, so you must be town.

I'm not sure I'm comfortable towning you on d1. We might need to argue at some point.

[farside22]

I started to ISO you but it's really hard to get any sense of context seeing as I'm not fully in this yet. You're very town toned, but then again I'm not even sure if I've seen you as scum. You're super fast to scumread me though, and you won't explain why, so you're making me nervous.

I don't recall you holding back your vote when your scum reading someone.
You didn't like papi but your holding back to let him finish.
That's something I expect someone to say because they think town would say it, when lately town gives two shits if they are scum reading the player.

[TheReverend]

What really? You think I'm scummy for holding back my vote when I replace in? Meanwhile, toffee thinks I'm scum for speculating about SK!

This is going to be a fun game.

[TheReverend]

FYI farside, I more or less follow a formula for replacing in, in an attempt to attain balance.

I say hi, and then start reading up and making notes, making sure to vote ONLY after I'm fully up to date. Whether town or scum. Me holding back my vote at this stage is 100% null as fuck, because I'm still doing what I consciously try to do as either elignment.

You should know this, surely? You shouldn't expect me to make a sloppy vote based on half a thread.

[TheReverend]

You didn't like papi but your holding back to let him finish.

Actually I'm holding back to let ME finish. I'm basically being selfish, trying to prolong the day to give me more time to read up, because I got bored at page ten.

[farside22]

That didn't get the point across I intended.

Why are you in a hurry to get a lynch? There's 5 days left, there's no hurry. It's obvious papi is the lynch.

You know where the day is going, I'm not sure where the hesitation comes from other then your desire to catch up. But here you are chatting away instead of catching up.
You obviously have the time so....???

[farside22]

Also Domo, I think you and I have been from start to finish in a game.
I could be wrong, but I can't recall a single game you replaced into that I was part of.

[TheReverend]

I could be wrong, but I can't recall a single game you replaced into that I was part of.

My memory isn't the best. I've played a fair few times with you, and I've subbed into tons of games, but maybe not one you were in.

Yes I'm chit chatting instead of catching up. I actually don't like catching up, it's boring. And when it comes to you, I feel like I'm going to get better reads on you through interaction than I am from reading up. Casual chatting is easy, it's not work. I don't even get much from my read through, other than to familiarise myself with the playerlist.

[Senator]

@Flubbernugget

Also no longer willing to sheep a Plot wagon in the event it forms

You town read him now? Now that most of the town does?

@FA_Q2

Spoiler: 439

@FA_Q2

Didn't you

just

say Spartan was V/LA?

This is actually starting to sound bad.

Agreed.

I am beginning to think this was a straight up slip. Con is a good lynch candidate for day one IMHO. We really need to hear from Spartan.

@Bellahant

@sen, some people missing from your list?

No. 'Everyone Else' is basically the nullpile. But I am wary to see all the sudden nullscum reads on my slot. Where were these before BBT replaced?

@Papi

Post 453 and 456: is there more coming Papi?

Papi, did you have reads by P13? If so, what were they?

Haven't read any other pages pages besides P1,2,3,13,& 14...

Rational is my scumread for now... But please, let me read the wholething first. >.>

What? You've only read 5 pages? I thought you were planning on doing this? You should replace out if you can't play or even be bothered to read.
Let's say that Conman really slipped. That would imply that they scum together, right? So why would questioning spartan about this have yielded anything but an easy lie?
Can you summarize your reason for keeping your vote on Flubber?

Because it would require Spartan to actually link himself with con or distance. I think it would have provided more information if we ended up with a flip from either. More information and/or commitment from players can be beneficial in the long term even if the information is not necessarily that useful today.

I would not have necessarily trusted the answer but there is no such thing as an ‘easy’ lie. The more lies a scum must tell, the more likely we are to catch them in one.


I am keeping my vote on flubber right now because he is getting scummier and scummier as this game goes on.

He has actively avoided answering my questions and his last statement to me was nothing but bullshit and purposeful misconstruing what I stated.

Then he stated I was making things up. Scummy.

Okay. I kind of agree with you; at least wrt Flubber.

The whole with Spartan is probably best dropped. There's too many what-ifs to read into it, especially now that Spartan isn't going to be playing. Leaving that bit out, how do you feel about him?

@Bellahant

@sen, some people missing from your list?

No. 'Everyone Else' is basically the nullpile. But I am wary to see all the sudden nullscum reads on my slot. Where were these before BBT replaced?

@Papi

Post 453 and 456: is there more coming Papi?

Papi, did you have reads by P13? If so, what were they?

Haven't read any other pages pages besides P1,2,3,13,& 14...

Rational is my scumread for now... But please, let me read the wholething first. >.>

What? You've only read 5 pages? I thought you were planning on doing this? You should replace out if you can't play or even be bothered to read.

[farside22]

I could be wrong, but I can't recall a single game you replaced into that I was part of.

My memory isn't the best. I've played a fair few times with you, and I've subbed into tons of games, but maybe not one you were in.

Yes I'm chit chatting instead of catching up. I actually don't like catching up, it's boring. And when it comes to you, I feel like I'm going to get better reads on you through interaction than I am from reading up. Casual chatting is easy, it's not work. I don't even get much from my read through, other than to familiarise myself with the playerlist.

You are giving me fits right now my friend.

[Senator]

@Dave

Mainly just curiosity, not related to the game in any way. I was thinking CivFanatics.

Oh boy. I guess you do fit the bill over there
I don't really bother with the place now that k-mod is about the only reason to visit anymore.

I think the Madman slot should be given another day to sort itself. Jeanne seemed very odd and easily popped under pressure.

@Reverend

Yea. Hi farside, domo, and Flubber!

Haha sup!

Your ISO isn't very scummy, and you're super scummy when you're scum, so you must be town.

I'm not sure I'm comfortable towning you on d1. We might need to argue at some point.

So you know this isn't my scum meta but aren't going use it? That seems unfair.
I guess I'm not surprised. The whole point of the alt is to try creating a new meta.

[TheReverend]

You are giving me fits right now my friend.

Well we'll talk about that more tomorrow then shall we.

For now I'll make you slightly happier.

vote papi

That's L-1. I'll finish my read through the night, I'll gamble I don't take the NK and laugh if I do.

[TheReverend]

I guess I'm not surprised. The whole point of the alt is to try creating a new meta.

I logged into this acc by accident and though meh fuck it I'll be rev again for a bit. Has nothing to do with new meta. People know rev = domo.

If you're going to have a new alt for new meta though, you should prob abandon pisskop in the meantime, otherwise you'll acc slip like a muppet! Notice no DOMO posts yet? There won't be. DOMO is currently inactive.

[Senator]

You are giving me fits right now my friend.

So you and Domo don't share that much history, correct?

Pedit:

So you and I have played how many games?

[TheReverend]

Two? I'm sure I've seen you as town and scum.

[Senator]

That's decent advice. I'll seriously consider it. It is sometimes hard to get into mindset and it does spill over a little sometimes.

We played in 1553 and 1559. What is my scum meta?

[TheReverend]

We played in 1553 and 1559. What is my scum meta?

Scummy. I might be remembering wrong, but as I recall, I read you correctly when you were scum, and had a little more difficulty with you when you were town.

[choof]

hopefully I'm able to apologize, sorry guys, slammed with work and I start college in a month or so, so I don't really have the time and energy to put in work

*airhorn*

[Flubbernugget]

I agree with bbt that papi is today's lynch and that nothing interesting has happened since he became the lynch decided on

[Senator]

I was town both games. Between Farside and Iyoice manged to confuse a lot wrt past exeroences. Im thinking you might be scum.

Papi, your next posts should include reasons not to hammer you.

[farside22]

You are giving me fits right now my friend.

So you and Domo don't share that much history, correct?

Pedit:

So you and I have played how many games?

4 games I think.
I have great respect for him after our first game together. Even after I thought he was scum in 80 and realized what he did and why I wanted to kiss him and strangle him all at the same time.
So for now I'll wait and see.

[Bellaphant]

Kk, so what happens if papi never comes back to Claim/post a defence? Actaully, while we wait:bbt, you never clarified about post 438 and the Rvs thing. Talk to me about your tthoughts?