Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[BigYoshiFan]

like talkin to a brick wall. I was talking to Elena directly before about pep and I told her it was a mislynch before. Which is why i told her directly that "well I told you so" if you need the exact quotes to both i can show you

You see, I might have been able to buy what ever excuse you're going to give me this time if we hadn't gone down this huge rabbit hole on whether you tried to prevent pep's death or not. If whatever explanation you're going to try and distract me with was real, you would have lead with that.

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As far as this list stuff goes, I don't like how yoshi is trying to avoid making the final decision with his check right on the heels of being grilled for his sub-par (scummy) choice. It's a good way of looking busy and useful while avoiding doing anything actually relevant.

As for my vig shot I don't want to waste it and would very much prefer to shoot either yoshi or gerry (or if we do the right thing and lynch yoshi, then drealmerz). I'm willing to take suggestions for a player or two to be added to the vig pool (of which I will again choose at random) from the masonry.

I'm not avoiding making a final decision, I'm letting everyone else decide and making a fucking VC of my own for it. This is for your vig pool too.

[BigYoshiFan]

Which, by the way, still needs votes from you and gerry. Got any?

[kuror0]

ok my thoughts.

Yoshi is town. If he isn't he will fall eventually, so the option to lynch or vig him is as bad as it gets. Due to the amount of VT's we see it suits to have an investigative role, and due to the scum neighborizer death we know it would suit this game with the flips we already have and we will confirm it further with other flips so please leave yoshi alone for now and focus somewhere else time will show he is indeed town.

the fact that Alisae wagon is made of the confirmed or closest to be confirmed town does say something. The fact that has been there but the pressure deflected easily on D1 or other wagons grew way easier and faster is telling aswell. And we know those wagon who outgrowth Alisae's one were on town players.

I know about a couple of players who had alisae on SR but when the wagon gets rolling they suddenly change stance or vote somewhere else.

About the vg shot I think the best option is to take down a player who we doubt but has too little interactions making it hard to prove his innocence. PV is a fine choice for me. Elena is also a nice choice because honestly I can't remember who she replace or any meaningful interactions so I got her on null. About investigation I would suggest zach mby even jae. (replacements are my weak spot :<)

[Alisae]

@Kuror
4969

[Transcend]

Yeah

Kuror0 is town

[Transcend]

Gonna go bowling

L8r sk8rs

[BigYoshiFan]

ok my thoughts.

Yoshi is town. If he isn't he will fall eventually, so the option to lynch or vig him is as bad as it gets. Due to the amount of VT's we see it suits to have an investigative role, and due to the scum neighborizer death we know it would suit this game with the flips we already have and we will confirm it further with other flips so please leave yoshi alone for now and focus somewhere else time will show he is indeed town.

the fact that Alisae wagon is made of the confirmed or closest to be confirmed town does say something. The fact that has been there but the pressure deflected easily on D1 or other wagons grew way easier and faster is telling aswell. And we know those wagon who outgrowth Alisae's one were on town players.

I know about a couple of players who had alisae on SR but when the wagon gets rolling they suddenly change stance or vote somewhere else.

About the vg shot I think the best option is to take down a player who we doubt but has too little interactions making it hard to prove his innocence. PV is a fine choice for me. Elena is also a nice choice because honestly I can't remember who she replace or any meaningful interactions so I got her on null. About investigation I would suggest zach mby even jae. (replacements are my weak spot :<)

Can you narrow each vig/investigation vote to one, or shall I put each as a half-vote?

[gerryoat]

honestly idk what votes are but we shouldnt vote until we have a vig list at least set in stone. also a check list

That's what these "votes" are for. XD
Care to contribute?

I think the vig depends on who we are lynching and whether or not they flip scum.

[BigYoshiFan]

Fair... Fair... I just wanna have a complete list in case twilight is short.

[gerryoat]

Yoshi is town. If he isn't he will fall eventually

i kinda get this thought process. If he's real, maf can be pushing his lynch thinking: A.) He's on the other maf team. B.) He's a threat to them.

They eventually need to kill him regardless of the scenario. So why not let maf do it?

[kuror0]

605 Is him answering a question that was not directed towards him. Looks like he's trying to help and be useful (ISN'T WHAT HE'S SCUMREADING ME FOR????)
Also I wanna point out that around this time Manny, Mick, and Kuror0r were all attacking Garry around this point in time. This could be Kuror0 oppertunisticly trying to hop on a wagon for an early lynch.

1024 is their reason on the surface. Which sorta leads me to the point where he's attacking the questions I'm asking because he thinks they lead nowhere. But the problem with this is he's attacking the way I think. A response he may think is a dead end could help me read someone better. It's moreso attack on how I think and my playstyle.
Also anothing thing I want to note is how he mentions Pep v Ram/Clumsy to be a SvT when after Clumsy claims he doesn't hop on Pep and BOTH OF THEM ARE TOWN

2256 is him hopping on wagon oppertunisticly.

Those are the first 3 and I stopped right there. I won't even bother reading the rest when it all come down to such bs "case". I will just rewrite how I read those.

605 he participated and said his opinion on something I didn't ask directly, must be scum. Also he was attacking gerry along CMM and manny which obviously shows he was trying to get a quicklynch on D1 along other towns and to make it perfect he didn't even place his vote. obvious mafia treachery.

1024 he is questioning me, must be scum. I mean who dares to question the usefulness of my question. Also look at that, he mentioned a possible SvT and didn't use the opportunity to jump on a town slot. Damn scum tactics.

2256 he placed a vote and got reactions. Scummy as fuck.

So yeah I won't bother to read the rest of that post. Tried as hard as could to portray me as scummy yet the known facts show how my actions were in the benefit of town.


@yoshi I would say vig PV and investigate zach then.

[Alisae]

Those are the first 3 and I stopped right there. I won't even bother reading the rest when it all come down to such bs "case". I will just rewrite how I read those.

If you're going to discredit my wall and not read it, why should I, or anyone in the town, read your walls?

[Alisae]

Go for it you have the weekend till I come back to answer to your case.

Also I find it funny how you didn't answer my full case.

[BigYoshiFan]

Current Vig and Check votes:

Vig pool:
Zachstralkita (2) - Fro99er, Transcend
PeregrineV (2) - Alisae, kuror0
Alisae (1) - BigYoshiFan
Transcend (1) - JaeReed

Check pool:
Alisae (3) - Alisae, Transcend, JaeReed
Frogger (2) - BigYoshiFan, Fro99er
Zachstralkita (1) - kuror0

[drealmerz7]

vig alisae!

[gerryoat]

If we don't lynch him, vig alisae

[BigYoshiFan]

If we don't lynch him, vig alisae

Kind of a given with these votes, so do you want me to put that?
Do you have a preferred investigation target? Drealmerz, you too.

[drealmerz7]

no, wisdom of the slot (always the same for the vig shot too, I don't want to direct it, I am just giving my suggestion, vigs should always choose their choice)

[Alisae]

no, wisdom of the slot (always the same for the vig shot too, I don't want to direct it, I am just giving my suggestion, vigs should always choose their choice)

By this logic I should be saying vig drealmerz.

[drealmerz7]

no that is the way to play

when you direct things you don't get a genuine read

the ends do not justify the means, everything gets skewed

[BigYoshiFan]

no, wisdom of the slot (always the same for the vig shot too, I don't want to direct it, I am just giving my suggestion, vigs should always choose their choice)

I mean, of course. You're not gonna force them to pick, just giving a suggestion. That's the purpose with these votes.

[drealmerz7]

yep

sometimes people are like if you don't do as directed by the "majority" or "overriding gruop mentality" there's threat of being lynched for not complying, which is bunk

[BigYoshiFan]

What about for my investigation, same thing?

[drealmerz7]

whatever floats your scumboat

[inspectorscout]

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