Newbie 1424 (Game Over)

[Amrun]

It's not the worst wagon that could happen today, but it's not the best.

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 2.6

CplHenderson (3):

Gravity, Nobody Special, Grimgroove

Amrun (1):

Poppedeye

Poppedeye (1):

CplHenderson

tynn (1):

Amrun

No Vote (1):

tynn

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is Monday, September 23 at 8:00 AM CDT, which is in (expired on 2013-09-23 08:00:00).

[Nobody Special]

@Nobody Special: If you had to bet on it, would you put your money on Cpl or Amrun for flipping scum?

If I only had to choose one, It'd have to be CplHenderson. While Amrun is deliciously scummy, Cpl's oogy oozy scumminess is bursting with flavor and aroma.

[Poppedeye]

It's not the worst wagon that could happen today, but it's not the best.

That's a tad subtle for my taste. Explain yourself, what would be worse than lynching Cpl and are we to assume lynching Grim is our best option?

[Grimgroove]

Actually, Amrun should be lynched. Just look at this read:

Cpl:

He's done some scummy things today. Yesterday, he pinged my scumdar a bit early on and then I got distracted by other things and it's been fine in comparison. Today, he doesn't seem to have a grasp on his scumreads. They don't make sense together, he isn't consistent about them, etc.

Then again... Something about his posts just strike me as kind of town. Scum are usually more careful to be consistent than posting one set of scumreads and then turning around and voting someone else in the next post, for example. His 494 towards NS seems pretty paranoid, too, which I associate with town.

Does this make sense to any of you?

It doesn't look like a read that occurred naturally, but more like a read that has a tactical mindset behind it. Given all the things she says in the bolded part, the clear-cut conclusion is that CplHenderson should be getting a scumread.
In the non-bolded part you see an enumeration of weak reasons. Seriously, they are weak ahnd they would not be what you can expect from a player with the experience of Amrun.

This is why I actually prefer an Amrun-lynch today still, because there is still the off-chance that CplHenderson simply is a terrible player not with his head in the game, and Amrun is using a non-scumread on him at this point in order to get towncred for it later. Or she's just protecting her scumbud. Be that as it may, I feel it in my little toe that the read presented above is scummy as shit.

VOTE: Amrun

I feel a tad more confident about her lynch. Her extent of actual scumhunting has dropped to a minimum by the way.

Also, people need to get their asses back inhere.

[Grimgroove]

Heads up: I'll be V/LA starting from tomorrow until Monday 30th of September. I should be able to come online during the course of next week, but it will be limited.

[Amrun]

It's not the worst wagon that could happen today, but it's not the best.

That's a tad subtle for my taste. Explain yourself, what would be worse than lynching Cpl and are we to assume lynching Grim is our best option?

I've been really clear with my reads, in my opinion. tynn is where my vote is, and therefore I think tynn is the best lynch. (After that, yes, it would be GG, but I am much more confident about tynn.)

Anyone I have fairly unconflicted townreads on would be worse lynches than Cpl (you, Gravity, for ex).

[Gravity]

The one thing that's giving me pause about tynn is the fact she's quite new. I could completely see her play be the result of that. I can understand where you are coming from with her Amrun, but I've just got that horrible gut feeling if I go with it, she's going to flip Town. We still have a couple of days to think anyway. I want tynn to post more before I make my mind up.

[Grimgroove]

Why not vote Amrun? It's good for you!

tynn flaked and needs a prod.

This is what accompanied Amrun's vote on tynn by the way:

tynn: Has become the forerunner of my scumreads. He will vote for NS if he "doesn't provide more content," which is a convenient excuse, not to mention tynn has provided very little content of his own. He doesn't seem interested in whether NS is scum here. My gut is definitely happiest to:

This isn't a case. Even Amrun herself acknowledges that, by mentioning her "gut".

Wouldn't you expect more of a case? More depth in argumentation?

Amrun is going for an easy lynch. Could be bussing or could be an effort to derail the CplHenderson-train, but it's definitely not scumhunting.

[CplHenderson]

Sigh.

I can see that there's a good possibility that I'm about to be hammered, so I just want to get this in.

I'm sorry for being distracted over the last few days, and I realize it's my own fault for bringing so much suspicion down on me.

I do, however, want to point out that Grimgroove has been concentrating solely on Amrun for the last day or two before suddenly switching his vote over to me. And I'd like to say that if Grimgroove were to be scum, he could push a lynch on me, kill a townie at night, follow up with a lynch of Amrun, and lead his team into victory. I had suspicion about Grimgroove before, a couple of weeks ago, but I kind of let it go because I didn't have any strong evidence to back up my claim.

I know you're not supposed to give up in this game, but to be honest, there is NOTHING I can say at this point that will make me look town - right now, people are probably looking at this post and thinking that this is a last ditch maneuver to draw suspicion away from myself. Please, though, just think about it?

[Grimgroove]

What are your thoughts on Amrun and tynn?

[Nobody Special]

I know you're not supposed to give up in this game, but to be honest, there is NOTHING I can say at this point that will make me look town - right now, people are probably looking at this post and thinking that this is a last ditch maneuver to draw suspicion away from myself. Please, though, just think about it?

Nice AtE -- for some reason, I had thought you were a newbie,

but I just looked at your join date.

Now I've looked at your history, and you truly ARE a newbie. Hmmm.

Well, AtE (Appeal to Emotion) is a popular scum tactic.

Now I don't know what to think. I think I'll re-read some. Both you and Amrun.

[Grimgroove]

You're not going to re-read shit you lazy ass! You know it, I know it, we all know it! Drop the sharade and vote!! Luckily for you I have done the preparatory works for you. The conclusion is simple. Lynch Amrun. Therefor you must vote for her. But thou must also spread the word! Cast your vote, and after having casted your vote, cast your vote to the people too, and give them your message, given to you on the Mountain of Wisdom on top of which I reside, and where an ever-resounding echo repeats itself melancholicly with the words: Lynch Amrun.

[Amrun]

"Gut" doesn't invalidate a case, and I actually said more about tynn than that, but nice try. That was my SUMMARY post after I posted things about particular posts that tweaked me.

I will only vote for Cpl at deadline; 559 strikes me as town.

[Grimgroove]

What has driven you to such minimalist responses? Is it despair that wheighs on your mind? Surely it cannot be the frivolty of INNOCENCE!!!???

[Grimgroove]

559 strikes me as town.

Do you like emotional movies too? Tissues at the ready of course, in case some dog looks like it's about to die.

[Amrun]

Minimalist responses because

a) That' what I'm in the mood for.

b) To be honest, this game has sparse content so there's not much to mine.

c) Real life is still kicking my ass in general + me trying to recover from when it was REALLY kicking my ass.

Minimalist responses =/= bad responses. Actually, it increases the chances they will be READ.

[Grimgroove]

Is that a jab at my long posting or a jab at my small attention span?

In any case, you deserve massive props for that one, truly genius Love for you!

So I will lynch you lovingly.

<3

[Poppedeye]

I believe tynn is out of the game. It's been over 5 days since she posted.

Moderator can you tell us the state of tynn?

[Zaicon]

VOICE OF MOD:

For some reason, I thought tynn was dead. Anyway, since tynn hasn't logged into MafiaScum in the past 5 days, I'm going to skip the prod phase and just find a replacement.

[Zaicon]

Hermy replaces tynn.

[Hermy]

Hi everyone!

I'm off to read all of what's happened so far

[Gravity]

Hi everyone!

I'm off to read all of what's happened so far

Welcome.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts. Tynn sort of disappeared before she was replaced. She had a bit of suspicion surrounding her, so be prepared for that.

[Grimgroove]

Lynch Amrun

[Hermy]

Sorry. I fell asleep last night. But I've read through everything (though half of it was when I was half-asleep).

I think I want a little more pressure to be put on Amrun. She went for somewhat of an easy lynch on tynn/Me, and (I think) tynn was suspected by quite a few people already at that point so her/my defenses would be somewhat difficult to succeed.

I've also been getting somewhat of a scumread off Cpl. And if he flips town then I'm pretty confident that at least one scum is on that bandwagon.

I think I'll go for VOTE: Amrun but I want to see if Cpl does something more in his defence, and I would be pretty willing to hammer, depending on what happens next.

Note: I mainly do this off an iPod so sorry for lack of fancy quote filled posts. Also, sorry for any typos for the same reason. I have all the spelling and grammar things off (because they annoy me even more than my typos) so I might have a few.