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Post Post #5625 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:12 am

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Post Post #5626 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:15 am

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In post 5623, Impossibear wrote:ok mollie, look at it this way, we're playing to outs. There is a chance that commies are out there, and there are three of them. Correct?


I find this unlikely for the reasons that I gave. town wld have NO chance of winning even if we lynched correctly every day. a town win wld be entirely based on correct lynches and a guarantee of scum crosskills. I already what I am going to do to mastina if this was the case.

Then playing around that doesn't hurt us. I'm probably gonna eat a bullet from them tonight. If, somehow, we lynch town and the game isn't over, then totally lynch me. I'll even help. And I am the last hippie, which means we can't win tonight. But if I'm right, someone can. And I don't want that to happen.

In fairness, I really don't care about the outcome of this game. Part of me wants to win for Flum and Klingon's sake, but combined ETL and I have read less than 20 pages of this game.

I do not win here if I'm wrong. Period. It's actually impossible. But if I'm right.... Well. Town has to listen to me today or they lose.


no scum in their right mind wld shoot you and that is what you are banking on. you are quite clearly either waving to

a) the other scum team
b) the sk

but appealing to town. you need to die. cos if you truly had town's best interest in mind you wld be okay with your death.
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Post Post #5627 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:23 am

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mollie, I have already lost this game if your theory is correct.

I am clearly waving to the other solo scum. I've made no secret of that. The only way I win this is to kill 1 communist and out the other one and go for the draw with whichever dictator is left or the sk.

That's pretty clearly a shot in the dark. I don't win this. I've made my peace with that. But Town still can, and the way they do is by not lynching me.

Now, for a rebuttal. Mastin quite clearly said that this is not a standard game of mafia, and I'm pretty sure there was a disclaimer about your likelihood of winning, which pretty much makes it your fault for signing up for the game in the first place if you don't like the giant mess it's turned into.

Second, groupscum would totally kill me here. I'm banking on the fact that I have a RB and can maybe stop them if I get the hailmary shot right. I am playing in direct opposition to their wincon and they know it. I have absolutely no utility to them here, except as a mislynch today. In fact, shooting me is their best option because if they don't, they run the risk of crosskilling.

And I've explained why my death is not in the best interest for town. The only way in hell you should be voting me today is if you are a communist or if you somehow believe I am a communist. And it's pretty clear that I'm not at this point.
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Post Post #5628 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:24 am

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In post 5627, Impossibear wrote:mollie, I have already lost this game if your theory is correct.

I am clearly waving to the other solo scum. I've made no secret of that. The only way I win this is to kill 1 communist and out the other ones and go for the draw with whichever dictator is left or the sk.

That's pretty clearly a shot in the dark. I don't win this. I've made my peace with that. But Town still can, and the way they do is by not lynching me.

Now, for a rebuttal. Mastin quite clearly said that this is not a standard game of mafia, and I'm pretty sure there was a disclaimer about your likelihood of winning, which pretty much makes it your fault for signing up for the game in the first place if you don't like the giant mess it's turned into.

Second, groupscum would totally kill me here. I'm banking on the fact that I have a RB and can maybe stop them if I get the hailmary shot right. I am playing in direct opposition to their wincon and they know it. I have absolutely no utility to them here, except as a mislynch today. In fact, shooting me is their best option because if they don't, they run the risk of crosskilling.

And I've explained why my death is not in the best interest for town. The only way in hell you should be voting me today is if you are a communist or if you somehow believe I am a communist. And it's pretty clear that I'm not at this point.

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Post Post #5629 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:25 am

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Goddamnit. mastin, could you add a bracket there?
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Post Post #5630 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:27 am

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I'm going to make a bigger post in a bit, but I want to make this known now so this doesn't cause any more issues:

Stop speculating about the serial killer. No SK exists in this setup.


I will fully explain shortly, but cease and desist until I do.
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Post Post #5631 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:28 am

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Dictator and sk need to claim if not in

Ika
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I think commies are fin3, muffin and the elk.

If none of them claim dic or sk, we lynch thete. Solo scum and sk kill there. Bear block therr.
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Post Post #5632 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:29 am

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In post 5630, Ankamius wrote:I'm going to make a bigger post in a bit, but I want to make this known now so this doesn't cause any more issues:

Stop speculating about the serial killer. No SK exists in this setup.


I will fully explain shortly, but cease and desist until I do.


So u think commies exist then.
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Post Post #5633 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:42 am

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I haven't fullclaimed on purpose up until now, but I'm an X-Shot bulletproof miller vigilante. I specifically white knighted Awesome for two reasons: Both because the claim looked genuine based on the power comparison between our roles and because even if that slot was a serial killer, their goal would be to scumhunt and sabotage scum more than town, so there was more reason to make sure they stayed alive than die. This is also why I didn't shoot them before last night. This is also why I was so adamant about stopping people from suspecting people as the SK on day 4.

Night 1: I killed Jackel98 because he was a significant enough scumread to be a good shot target, yet also a high enough lynch possibility that it would've given town the information from his flip without having to use up a lynch in the attempt. I didn't kill KlingonCelt because I wanted to keep my identity hidden for the time being. Scum would've been likely to piece together whoever was the source of the kill once more of the setup was known and more shots had been fired from this slot.

Night 2: I killed Fluminator because he was pretty obviously scum. I remember thinking it wasn't very likely he was going to be crosskilled.

Night 3: I killed alivechihiro because I remembered not having any read on that slot and seeing multiple people have the same type of thoughts about him. At this point, day play was starting to come together and be likely to solve the game for most of the active participants, so I was trying to choose shots among the outliers.

Night 4: I decided to kill Awesome last night for two reasons: First, because I knew it was very likely that we would be massclaiming today and it would've been a huge distraction to have the speculation about one of us having to be the serial killer, so removing the nearly forced tunnelling on both sides would help town stay focused. Second, because with the amount of players rapidly dwindling and still having several kills a night, it was getting dangerously close to the time where that slot being alive would've been far too dangerous for a lynch if the slot really was a serial killer.

I have not lost a single shot of my bulletproof ability since the game started.
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Post Post #5634 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:42 am

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And before anyone asks, I will shoot based on town consensus from here on out.
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Post Post #5635 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:46 am

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Ank, I think you are full of shit and are the sk.

That being said, I do not think you are communist so I am letting it go today. The communists need to die not the sk.

What do you think of PI's bulletproof claim?
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Post Post #5636 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:47 am

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In post 5632, Titus wrote:
In post 5630, Ankamius wrote:I'm going to make a bigger post in a bit, but I want to make this known now so this doesn't cause any more issues:

Stop speculating about the serial killer. No SK exists in this setup.


I will fully explain shortly, but cease and desist until I do.


So u think commies exist then.


I don't believe so. I might have to analyze the kills again, but I think the chances of a full communist team is pretty low at this point.
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Post Post #5637 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:49 am

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In post 5635, Titus wrote:What do you think of PI's bulletproof claim?


By itself? Inconclusive. I think the slot itself is town.
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Post Post #5638 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:57 am

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Lynched:
Toon Fighter,
Fascist
Godfather
, Lynched Day One.
ProHawk,
Dictator
Jailkeeper
, Lynched Day Two.
shos,
Town
Cop
, Lynched Day Three.
BlizZard,
Fascist
Sane Cop
, Lynched Day Four.


Shot: (Dictator/Communist/?)
ArcAngel9,
Town
Hippie Cop
, shot night one.
DrippingGoofBall,
Town
White Mage
, shot night two.
Klingoncelt,
Hippie
Fruit Vendor
, shot night three.
guille2015,
Town
Macho Doctor
, shot night four.


Killed: (Vigilante)
Jackel98,
Dictator
Rolecop
, killed night one.
Fluminator,
Hippie
Doctor
, stabbed and killed night two.
alivechihiro,
Town
Watcher
, killed night three.
Awesome,
Town
Compulsive SK-Miller Vigilante
, killed night four.


Stabbed: (Vigilante)
Fluminator,
Hippie
Doctor
, stabbed and killed night two.
Wisdom,
Fascist
Ninja
, stabbed night three.


Silenced: (Fascist?)
farside22,
Town
Bodyguard
, silenced night one.
EddieFenix,
Town
Fascist Cop
, silenced night two.
Bulbazak,
Town
Doctor
, silenced night three.


Outliers:
Pine,
Town
Communist Miller
, beaten to a bloody pulp night one.
Alchemist21,
Vanilla Townie
, shredded into fertilizer night one.
PeregrineV,
Town
Gunsmith
, sliced in half night four.
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Post Post #5639 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:59 am

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If there's someone alive who hasn't claimed one of the last two night 1 kills yet, they really really should. That's the primary thing that I'm concerned about.

Otherwise, it's definitely possible that there isn't a communist team in this setup if a source of the outlier kills is the hippies.
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Post Post #5640 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:06 am

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Post Post #5641 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:06 am

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Sweet, so Ank is non communist scum.

Also, you should probably read my posts.
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Post Post #5642 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:07 am

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In post 5639, Ankamius wrote:If there's someone alive who hasn't claimed one of the last two night 1 kills yet, they really really should. That's the primary thing that I'm concerned about.

Otherwise, it's definitely possible that there isn't a communist team in this setup if a source of the outlier kills is the hippies.


There are communists. I am 99.9% sure of that.

Count the kills. Add in ika's cageyness about whether they were shot last night...that means add one to the kill count.

You get

Fascist, dead
Tammy, blocked
SK/Vig, one kill
Bear, One kill
Dictator, one kill
Communist, one kill

We have three bodies plus ika taking a bullet
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Post Post #5643 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:10 am

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Bear, you in for my plan?
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Post Post #5644 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:12 am

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what the fuck there are 3 vigs
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Post Post #5645 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:13 am

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we already looked at that ank.

I don't understand why you can say in good faith with what you are saying when what you did was to take out our top town read. :(

eta: look at the outliers. you wld have to posit that hippies had an extra nk on n1 cos the beaten nk has not been repeated.

this whole game makes me tremendously sad. I thought town had a chance here.

I also feel like jingle was being a dick but whatever. plz do the kindness of never talking to me again.
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Post Post #5646 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:18 am

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i really want to believe ank's claim right now but i have to check some things first.
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Post Post #5647 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:18 am

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ika post (i have permission): what if we are all overly speculating right now and impossible is just the final scum of the game?

/dicuss
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Post Post #5648 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:21 am

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There are three night kills. Who is the second vig? Why did they not claim...
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Post Post #5649 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:22 am

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I am starting to suspect ika is a commie...
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