Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[Lukewarm]

Partly because of their quickvote on me at the start of today. They weren't considering their options, just knew that me and them would be in opposition today. Cynical

To be fair, because you were against confirming me, the only option to confirm me was for freedom and ceph to vote for you. Like, mechanically.

[Lukewarm]

@furtive, please talk to me about your read on me prior to freedom's vote

[furtiveglance]

@furtive, please talk to me about your read on me prior to freedom's vote

Mostly town, but not 100%

[Lukewarm]

You got pretty animatedly worried about putting me into a position to potentially hammer you. Something that can only happens if I am scum.

Did you have any specific worries about me?

[furtiveglance]

I did think you were town, just wasn't sure

Bnd was a bit sus, but I thought it was you in that schadd game when it was you. Besides your play made no sense as Mafia. I just thought the best play was to no elim based on what I've seen before in f4 situations

[Lukewarm]

luke. i think his solving has a lot of value, i want to see it, and i think i'm not going to eliminate him anyway regardless

i guess val could be more theater but i dont think it is

I see.
So, we can proceed with Luke's plan, right?
(Mainly involves putting furtive on E-1 and Luke not hammering, conftowning him.)

FREEDOM HOW ARE YOU SO BLASÉ ABOUT THE WHOLE GAME BEING ON THE LINE

This does not translate to "I prefer to play in 3p"

"The game being on the line" is only true if I am scum.

I kind of thought you were secretly scum reading me, but did not want to say it because if I was town, and I got night killed, it solved it for you. Or conversely, you didn't want me to know in case I would aim the kill at you for it.

The answer being "I just wanted 3p, but was pretty sure you were town" is a much more boring answer tbh

[Lukewarm]

I think I would have town leaned you for having a secret scum read on me, so I am a little sad at your response tbh

(And if you are scum, I hope this post makes you feel sad for not taking that route )

[Lukewarm]

I'd rather let him call it basically

I don't really plan on strong arming the whole thing.

I want us to collectively choose 1 more player to confirm town. Then me and that player decide between. The last two.

@everyone

Please make a case for who you think should be cleared out of the 3 of you

[Lukewarm]

We need to lock in clear #2 by tomorrow

[furtiveglance]

luke. i think his solving has a lot of value, i want to see it, and i think i'm not going to eliminate him anyway regardless

i guess val could be more theater but i dont think it is

I see.
So, we can proceed with Luke's plan, right?
(Mainly involves putting furtive on E-1 and Luke not hammering, conftowning him.)

FREEDOM HOW ARE YOU SO BLASÉ ABOUT THE WHOLE GAME BEING ON THE LINE

This does not translate to "I prefer to play in 3p"

"The game being on the line" is only true if I am scum.

I kind of thought you were secretly scum reading me, but did not want to say it because if I was town, and I got night killed, it solved it for you. Or conversely, you didn't want me to know in case I would aim the kill at you for it.

The answer being "I just wanted 3p, but was pretty sure you were town" is a much more boring answer tbh

How does my position not make sense to you? I thought it was unlikely, but possible, that you were Mafia

[furtiveglance]

Obviously I'd like to be clear, but realistically I'll hammer Ceph if it's them that's voted

[Lukewarm]

Obviously I'd like to be clear, but realistically I'll hammer Ceph if it's them that's voted

I am reading between the lines, and this scenario means "I would bet the game on freedom being town"

Is that accurate?

[Lukewarm]

luke. i think his solving has a lot of value, i want to see it, and i think i'm not going to eliminate him anyway regardless

i guess val could be more theater but i dont think it is

I see.
So, we can proceed with Luke's plan, right?
(Mainly involves putting furtive on E-1 and Luke not hammering, conftowning him.)

FREEDOM HOW ARE YOU SO BLASÉ ABOUT THE WHOLE GAME BEING ON THE LINE

This does not translate to "I prefer to play in 3p"

"The game being on the line" is only true if I am scum.

I kind of thought you were secretly scum reading me, but did not want to say it because if I was town, and I got night killed, it solved it for you. Or conversely, you didn't want me to know in case I would aim the kill at you for it.

The answer being "I just wanted 3p, but was pretty sure you were town" is a much more boring answer tbh

How does my position not make sense to you? I thought it was unlikely, but possible, that you were Mafia

It is less that the position does not make sense. It is that this is not a position that I would town read you for. Is an easy position to take, and seems fairly NAI

Having a secret scum read on me, with reasons, which led you to be scared about giving me hammer powers -- I would have probably town read.

[Lukewarm]

I was asking you a series of questions, and in my mind, if you answered a certain way, I would walk away with a town read.

You did not answer that way.

You answered in a NAI way (in my opinion)

[Cephrir]

@ceph and @furtive

If you are considering a possible scum!freedom, please talk me through your thoughts there.

Right now I am inclined to have him as the most likely town between the three of you, but want to hear from you before we commit to that idea

By play Freedom isn't that towny, but I feel like it would have been such a weird bus on JunkoChan. I think I was right on Cephrir pretty much since I replaced in. Partly because of their quickvote on me at the start of today. They weren't considering their options, just knew that me and them would be in opposition today. Cynical

Quick vote?? The choice of voting for you vs freedom to confirm Luke was arbitrary

[Cephrir]

Partly because of their quickvote on me at the start of today. They weren't considering their options, just knew that me and them would be in opposition today. Cynical

To be fair, because you were against confirming me, the only option to confirm me was for freedom and ceph to vote for you. Like, mechanically.

Er yes that too

[furtiveglance]

I was asking you a series of questions, and in my mind, if you answered a certain way, I would walk away with a town read.

You did not answer that way.

You answered in a NAI way (in my opinion)

Fine

[Cephrir]

I think we all know that if we conftown someone else it's going to be freedom. So all that really does is put me on a clock to look back and see whether I have any doubts. I guess I'll try to do that today.

[furtiveglance]

Obviously I'd like to be clear, but realistically I'll hammer Ceph if it's them that's voted

I am reading between the lines, and this scenario means "I would bet the game on freedom being town"

Is that accurate?

Maybe not the smartest thing to do but I do think it's Cephrir so yeah

[Cephrir]

God mastina potentially being right is so fucking funny to me

[Cephrir]

Dante's Mafia Commedia

[Cephrir]

I hope the dead thread has enjoyed her probably continuing to wall about it every day

[Cephrir]

They hated mastina because she told the truth

[furtiveglance]

God mastina potentially being right is so fucking funny to me

Yeah you said this already. How amused are you, can you convey the extent of your amusement

[Cephrir]

You're a real party pooper huh