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Post Post #4778 (isolation #600) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:00 pm

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Well look at it from another angle sk knew he was fbi agent just imagine how good a sk would look if he opposed the fbi agents lynch It's also possible he noticed titus soft claims and knew titus would say something to get the lynch through. The excuse his using through is he knew who doctor was and sk would kill dr. I proved it's possible sk would want dr alive plus if he was ballsy enough to keep fbi agent alive he would easily have enough courage to keep dr alive.

There's nothing actually pointing out otherwise that he isn't a ballsy sk.
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Post Post #4779 (isolation #601) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:03 pm

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Also look at his activity today and how persistent he was about house being killed because of his dr soft claims. I think twies right he was killed because of his soft claims he was killed to give twie a alibi.
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Post Post #4786 (isolation #602) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:43 am

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Everyone else is eliminated from poe and I don't think ktnx is sk anymore has to be one of you two.
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Post Post #4790 (isolation #603) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:19 pm

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VOTE: strange cougar

this is the lynch I wanted.
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Post Post #4805 (isolation #604) » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:13 am

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In post 4804, RachMarie wrote:Another question I have is what is the difference between a tailor and a framer? Can we fully trust the reads that the FBI agent made for those who are not the SK?

Tailor makes scum look town and a framer makes town look scum. Mafia would use a tailor on themselves and not anyone else if you were starting to think that. The last ones a difficult question but I would look at if do you trust his reads completely and do the still hold merit. The only thing we get 100% off the fbi is kise isn't sk.
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Post Post #4808 (isolation #605) » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:59 pm

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In post 4807, RachMarie wrote:Thanks ok so basically Titus shot herself in the foot completely ok I was not sure have not had much experience playing with either tailor or framer.

So then yeah that clears Kise for SK pretty well then

Moving along


Titus was planning for the cop to investigate her judging by the reaction with house. But it backfired because the cop investigated someone else instead.
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Post Post #4818 (isolation #606) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:33 pm

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We have one day left and I don't want a no lynch.
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Post Post #4821 (isolation #607) » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:36 pm

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In post 4820, RachMarie wrote:Wait a minute when did you claim vengeful townie Kise I missed that?


Rach will you be here tomorrow?

Also the claim

In post 4727, Kise wrote:
In post 4577, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 4570, Ankamius wrote:
In post 0, jasonT1981 wrote:
Living PlayersRachMarie
StrangerCoug

Kise (replaces Majiffy)
Ankamius (replaces Mom)

TheWayItEnds

Garmr
TiphaineDeath

Nachomamma8 (replaces pirate mollie)

Kthxbye


Reads yay~


Kise was cleared of being the SK by HI.

Shhh

since I'm dying next,
claiming vengeful townie.
This + bomb + cop + doc + sk make me think scum have some kind of bulletproof role. I'm fine voting Garmr as I still think he's a good shot for scum. If I had to rank SK choices:

kthx-twie-sc-tip-ank-nacho-rm

This is based on the kill choices. Rach can't be caught up enough to mafia hunt the way the SK was. Those are kills I'd make if I had a good, concentrated idea of who was scummy / likely to flip maf. I stuck Tip in the middle because my last large normal had a neighborizing SK, so never rule that plot twist out.

Anyway I'm still reading.
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Post Post #4823 (isolation #608) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:13 am

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In post 4822, RachMarie wrote:Yes I will be here tomorrow (Tues Dec 30th)

Thanks for the quote I totally missed that one when I was reading up :facepalm:


Oh ok what do you think of the game so far?
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Post Post #4837 (isolation #609) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:47 am

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In post 4824, RachMarie wrote:Garmr
before I answer that since Mollie replaced out and Nacho replaced in, has that changed your opinion of that slot? You were pretty gung ho about Mollie being an SK.


Tbh if mollie took the time to sit down and talk to me at the start like nacho did I might of considered her town. But all she did was shout avoided the points I made and scream how i'm sk/mafia, Then I saw that kills start lining up in ways that benefited her. When she quit through that's when I started getting doubts. Also the fact that nacho talked out some of my points helped reassure me that the slot was probably town.


@nacho watch where going to get a no lynch because of that. Sc is still sk.

In post 4836, Kise wrote:
In post 4827, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 4787, Kise wrote:
In post 4783, TheWayItEnds wrote:Not pine sorry. Kise.

So what's up?


I actually dont know what you're trying to ask me here.

You came in the thread and summarized things. From there, you offered no suspicions or suggestions. I asked wassup to know what you wanna do today, and it looks like you answered it just now. I'm personally not feeling a kthx or Rach lynch. Garmr is no saint but he's someone I found scummy due to interaction with Nero & Pine, so he's not an SK read but I'd lynch him over Rach & kthx.

Nacho what do I do with my vote and my weapon?


Yep you'll understand end game I baited pine through and my actions lead nero to speak out more. Most importantly I'm town.
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Post Post #4839 (isolation #610) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:09 pm

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VOTE: TWIE

;/ I hope we don't miss the lynch line but then again the mod asked if we wanted a extension.
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Post Post #4847 (isolation #611) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:46 pm

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In post 4846, Kise wrote:I don't see Ank as a lynchee amongst the rest of you. Shooting him over anyone else basically means (for example) there's 3 people still lynchable instead of 2 people.

Kise I don't really know to much how vengeful townie works but don't you have to get lynched to actually kill something.
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Post Post #4849 (isolation #612) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:03 pm

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In post 4848, Kise wrote:I die I get to kill. It's not like an easymode bomb, I have to choose.

Interesting then town is pretty powerful.
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Post Post #4853 (isolation #613) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:33 pm

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Sigh we aren't getting a lynch today are we.
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Post Post #4889 (isolation #614) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:27 pm

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I'm not sk through I'm town so you'll end up losing to me anyway.
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Post Post #4892 (isolation #615) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:36 pm

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It does justify why we needed a fbi agent through with the scum team being that weak.
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Post Post #4895 (isolation #616) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:42 pm

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Also people act surprised I'm competent that's titus,pine,twie I had strong scum reads for a mild on aj and null IAI with my only fault being nero cain. I think I did pretty good.
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Post Post #4896 (isolation #617) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:44 pm

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In post 4893, Ankamius wrote:Night 2: I am Innocent
Night 4: Josh_B
Night 6: PeregrineV


If mollie didn't rage quit they would fit her perfectly. I don't know who else they would fit through.
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Post Post #4899 (isolation #618) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:50 pm

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In post 4897, TheWayItEnds wrote:Does getting a scum read on me after I started going on you for asking me to kill the doctor REALLY count?

I would argue that it doesnt.


I was first to scum read you day 1. I only backed off because mollie told me I was spamming the page. Since then I never called you town for your actions I ruled you out for poe at one stage yesterday but that changed pretty fast.
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Post Post #4905 (isolation #619) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:56 pm

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In post 4898, Nachomamma8 wrote:We have two lynches to catch final scum.

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TD is confirmed town via neighborizer, pretty much: giving one SK neighborizer over the other one arbitrarily is dumb, and making one bulletproof while the other one not would be pretty fucked up.

I don't think those kills make sense from Rach-SK. A large part of me feels Rach is town.

SC's interaction with investigative immunity re: Garmr don't really make sense as a push because he would know it wasn't true if he was SK. It felt like a push with a considerable amount of truth in it.

Garmr's much less town now that genuine SK suspicions aren't a good marker for someone being town.

I still hold Ank suspicions at the back of my mind.


We have three lynches actually due to odd-even night mechanics. Also who says investigation immunity isn't true it doesn't even have to be on the sk side (aka cop might not get them as a result) or they even told about it.

Also now that the night kills that you said didn't make sense for mollie are gone that puts you right back in there for sk. Because I can see Mollie doing that dick move with two sks.
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Post Post #4910 (isolation #620) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:04 pm

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In post 4906, Nachomamma8 wrote:mollie would have shot you if she was the sk


Who says she would of, she gained more for me being alive as the conflict she just couldn't handle the stress.

look at the two shots she did make first shot was when me and mollie were on good terms second shot (joshb) was when me and mollie were on shaky terms but she thought she could maybe lynch me then she quit. the third shot was in your territory. Things didn't blow out of hand till it was twies shot.
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Post Post #4913 (isolation #621) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:12 pm

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In post 4911, Nachomamma8 wrote:exactly
she hated you so much as a result of the game that she blacklisted you and refused to play with you
mollie would have shot you if she was sk


Things didn't blow out of hand till it was twies shot that's the point she might of thought that I would shoot her because sks seem to under the impression that I'm sk to. Also if sk could die I could of just shot mollie earlier as well because I was pissed with her disgusting behavior as well. You know how badly I actually wanted to kill her the only way i could do that is through lynching.
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Post Post #4915 (isolation #622) » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:45 pm

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VOTE: TheWayItEnds
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Post Post #4926 (isolation #623) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:26 am

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I still think strange cougars a sk. He could of saw the 50/50 thing and misinterpreted it to mean odd and even in his head and pushed from that strange angle so town wouldn't catch on. That would easily explain the weird attitude around it.

VOTE: strange cougar
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Post Post #4927 (isolation #624) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:31 am

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I thought about it closely I still think strange cougar>nacho. I feel like the sks were more likely to jump on me.
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Post Post #4930 (isolation #625) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:16 pm

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In post 4929, Ankamius wrote:Garmr, SC is town. Unvote.

Tell me why he is town.
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Post Post #4931 (isolation #626) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:22 pm

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@ank
Also who was the one who said twie was town ank. Thats another reason I find it hard to believe you on strange cougar.
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Post Post #4933 (isolation #627) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:32 pm

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In post 4932, Ankamius wrote:Because TWIE flipped SK without any positive modifiers. Even if the even-night SK was given a boon to compensate for the inferior nights to kill, it would be a bulletproof and not investigation-immunity.


Even twie admitted that sk probably wouldn't be picked up by the town cop and most the cop immunity never really appears on the sk end lol but the cops results.
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Post Post #4936 (isolation #628) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:05 pm

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In post 4935, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4933, Garmr wrote:
In post 4932, Ankamius wrote:Because TWIE flipped SK without any positive modifiers. Even if the even-night SK was given a boon to compensate for the inferior nights to kill, it would be a bulletproof and not investigation-immunity.


Even twie admitted that sk probably wouldn't be picked up by the town cop and most the cop immunity never really appears on the sk end lol but the cops results.


TWIE saying that without knowing for sure means pretty much nothing.


the same applies to your argument as well. So that's why I'm treating it as it never existed and judging sc on what he has done.
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Post Post #4937 (isolation #629) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:39 pm

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If me and strange somehow get to mylo I will vote him straight off the bat and since I'm your scum read it may be better to lynch me now so you can lynch sc in mylo.
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Post Post #4939 (isolation #630) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:23 pm

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In post 4938, StrangerCoug wrote:
In post 4937, Garmr wrote:If me and strange somehow get to mylo I will vote him straight off the bat and since I'm your scum read it may be better to lynch me now so you can lynch sc in mylo.

Garmr, the way you're posting, you're probably not even going to
GET
to MYLO.


and we could of had a extra lynch if we lynched twie when we had a chance and people didn't lynch ktnx instead.
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Post Post #4941 (isolation #631) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:34 pm

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In post 4940, StrangerCoug wrote:And you plan to take another away from us from your crap attempt at an SK slip that's even worse than my attempt. No, thank you.


I don't want to lose to you if your sk.


The lynches are between me and strange today otherwise with both of us not voting anyone else it's no lynch.
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Post Post #4943 (isolation #632) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:41 pm

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In post 4942, StrangerCoug wrote:If you don't want to lose to me if I'm an SK, then come up with something that isn't a complete and utter fraud.


You couldn't come up with anything on me so take your own advice.
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Post Post #4945 (isolation #633) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:53 pm

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In post 4944, StrangerCoug wrote:I have. You never actually refuted my WIFOM case against you, and the person whose alleged WIFOM you said you were responding to has now flipped scum. Your #4926 also smells worse than a public restroom that hasn't been cleaned in three years. Where the hell do you get that kind of post, anyway?

and as others have pointed out all your points were bad that's why you were nearly lynched two days ago.
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Post Post #4947 (isolation #634) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:57 pm

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In post 4946, StrangerCoug wrote:And two of those have now changed their minds and think I'm town.


That doesn't mean they thought your points were any good.
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Post Post #4949 (isolation #635) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:01 pm

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In post 4948, StrangerCoug wrote:It does mean you have to do a better job of convincing people I'm the other SK.


I had trouble convincing this lot that twie (except nacho and kise) was a possible sk.
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Post Post #4951 (isolation #636) » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:10 pm

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In post 4950, StrangerCoug wrote:OK, and? That says very little about me.

That means hope.
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Post Post #4960 (isolation #637) » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:55 am

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In post 4959, Ankamius wrote:There's no point in having different cop result flavors if it's going to be misleading in the first place.


Flavour is flavour and as already brought up independent to each mod. You could have this slot smells fishy or anything as long as it indicates a guilty or not guilty clearly.

Judge by peoples actions.
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Post Post #4962 (isolation #638) » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:07 am

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In post 4961, Ankamius wrote:I think that's completely and utterly ridiculous, but I'll just drop it and call SC town for how he engaged me on this point.

Happy?

No you forget that he was pushing me with no real case to why I was sk and everyone was telling you that but you refused to listen. If sc didn't react that way it would of backfired on him so it's null.
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Post Post #4963 (isolation #639) » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:09 am

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I mean everyone was telling you that cop results are wifom on sks.
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Post Post #4965 (isolation #640) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:34 am

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In post 4964, RachMarie wrote:Ok guys in my experience, cops get guilty and not guilty. I have not played with FBIs much, but I would presume it would be similar wording. Are ya all thinking the cop could have gotten a guilty read on Way dude and that is why the cop was NKed? Cause that is kinda WIFOMY. I figure it was like Mafia and Masons which I was in a while back, the cop could only get a guilty on mafia, and the seer a guilty on werewolves. That was a really strange game, I was town but my neighbor was a werewolf.

I can get the link iffen you want it.


So we all got that out our system I propose a idea and a experiment of sorts. Instead of making a case of why everyone else is sk lets make a case on why we are not sk.

Then at the end of the game we can all look back at the sks story and compare it to the others and maybe learn something.

Who wants to start.
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Post Post #4969 (isolation #641) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:27 am

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In post 4966, StrangerCoug wrote:We can start with you, since you're the one making that proposal.

Just wanted to be polite but sure.

1.This is light but my reaction to the fbi agent. I didn't want to lynch him but I didn't believe he was fbi either.

2.There was no benefit for me for pushing for a sk hunt that early only minuses. If I was sk why would I want to out that there being two sks so early in the game by lynching one and increasing the number of days town had.

3.I have risked my neck for my beliefs by doing gambits that could have me lynched(the dr call on kise to manipulate votes, Calling hider for josh B a strong town read)

4.Kills go against my interests (Josh b was close to me and the sk that's alive killed josh B, I had no intreast in killing a lurker like IAI.)

@Ank I got something for you to consider I just found it let me format it.
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Post Post #4970 (isolation #642) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:29 am

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UNVOTE: StrangerCoug

I think I uncovered the biggest sk slip and If I'm right sc is town
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Post Post #4972 (isolation #643) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:49 am

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I need sleep I thought I caught a major slip but Now it looks insane rereading it.
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Post Post #4975 (isolation #644) » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:31 pm

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Yeh I thought mollie weird process's day 5 were coming from even night sk who didn't consider there was another sk. Because she was trying to describe 1 shot vigs and aj getting extra kills. But it could also come from town as well.

If you glance over it you have things that point to her being even night vig because it would require knowledge to make that guess town didn't have at time, then things that contradict it. It just such a mess it's hard to read.
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Post Post #4984 (isolation #645) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:37 pm

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After double checking that slot can't be sk (nachos) It's like near confirmed not sk.
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Post Post #4986 (isolation #646) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:26 am

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In post 4985, RachMarie wrote:I modded an 9AP game, when you have an even and and odd they cannot switch over. Which means the even SK had to be active enough to make a NK every even night.

Hence why I think the remaining SK was active.


So who do you think is sk?
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Post Post #4993 (isolation #647) » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:22 am

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VOTE: rachmarie

Ank is more likely to be town than rachmarie. I feel like strange cougar is the sk like 80% sure. But you two seem to think strange isn't.
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Post Post #4995 (isolation #648) » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:14 am

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hey strange who do think will be killed tonight if rachmarie isn't sk? It's not going to be you or me that's for sure.
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Post Post #4997 (isolation #649) » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:52 am

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There's also a lot of town slips on mollies part just before she left. She may of been crazy but she's wasn't sk and nacho has been pretty town to.
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Post Post #5001 (isolation #650) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:33 am

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yeh sc you'll vote rach marie oh well it makes lylo 3 instead of 4
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Post Post #5006 (isolation #651) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:04 am

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In post 5005, Nachomamma8 wrote:Optimal play is to no lynch today and then power lynch Ank tomorrow, then Garmr in 3p if game isn't over but I'm pretty sure it will be over by then.


I'm not lynching ank tommorow.
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Post Post #5007 (isolation #652) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:54 am

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So the only way your ever going to get a chance to lynch ank is lynching me first.
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Post Post #5012 (isolation #653) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:03 am

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nope but people i will not lynch

Nacho and ank

people i will lynch

strange cougar (<1st prefrence) rachmarie.

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Post Post #5018 (isolation #654) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:22 am

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welp your never getting a ank lynch so sucked in there.
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Post Post #5021 (isolation #655) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:39 am

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In post 5019, Nachomamma8 wrote:If I can get Rach and SC to lynch him after you die, I can.


that's not going to happen because rach is smart enough to see that sc is the real scum here and you and rank are ruining this game by not voting him.
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Post Post #5030 (isolation #656) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:56 am

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In post 5022, Nachomamma8 wrote:Turning to emotional manipulation already?
:(


yep of course anything to save town no matter how dirty I must be.
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Post Post #5033 (isolation #657) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:30 pm

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In post 5031, Nachomamma8 wrote:You'd do better by town with more thinking and less strongarming. Strongarming alienates, thinking brings you closer to a sensible resolution.


I have thought it through and nothing in anks iso indicates sk. Mollie basically eliminated her self form odd/even type sk situations and rach marie is a lot more town than strange cougar.
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Post Post #5037 (isolation #658) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:49 pm

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In post 5034, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5033, Garmr wrote:nothing in anks iso indicates sk.

What about Mom's?
Do you have any specific things that make you think either are town, or is it just a lack of things that are SK indicative that make you think town?

Lack of. Compared to strange cougar who seems a lot scummier.

In post 5035, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5025, Ankamius wrote:I'm way too disengaged from this game because nothing makes any sense anymore.

If Garmr's not SK, I'm just going to be mad that Rach got away with it.

To me, there's clear motivation to set you up as the lynch today because SC isn't going to get lynched and it's going to be hard to attempt to lynch Rach through me. The fact that Ank is setting up a you-lynch now while seemingly expecting the townflip and simultaneously taking a lynch after the fact seems pretty SK-ish to me. I understand a mindset that finds someone wanting to chain lynch multiple players because they don't know for sure which the last one is, but this is worded like "I really think it's Garmr but maybe it's Rach" which seems strange to me.

Yeh i could see that he thinks i'm town I kinda got that impression because this seemed really faked.

In post 5011, Ankamius wrote:My god is it really Garmr?


But nacho strange cougar :cry:
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Post Post #5039 (isolation #659) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:57 pm

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I hate to admit it through but your case is better than my case.
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Post Post #5041 (isolation #660) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:01 pm

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UNVOTE: sc

VOTE: ank
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Post Post #5076 (isolation #661) » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:31 am

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God I hope ank is really sk I'm actually getting quite anxious I never won as town in a mylo before.
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Post Post #5080 (isolation #662) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:14 am

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wtf strange cougar was town that's fucking bs i refuse to believe it.
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Post Post #5081 (isolation #663) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:20 am

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So that means either rachmarie or nacho is sk . But seriously if sk killed nacho or rach (Which ever is town) I would of pretty much voted strange cougar off the bat giving you guys a free win. So I don't understand the thought process of the sk in killing strange cougar.
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Post Post #5082 (isolation #664) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:46 am

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Well judging from previous play nacho is town he would understand the blood lust between me and strange cougar and know that was the best option.

The night kill only really make sense as the best play for rachmarie at this point.

Rachmarie
1.She probably didn't know the dynamic between sc and me worked.

2.Looking back at her post she shows that she concerned with being seen as sk.
In post 4980, RachMarie wrote:I thought it was a tailor not a framer? I am confused?

Ank what is your case? If it is based on lurking I have not lurked I have had a number of issues this game.

I would suppose the remaining SK would be more active since clearly there has been a NK every single night and Way dude was odd night which means he clearly was not able to do kills on even nights.

So I am looking at activity for someone in the remaining crew who has been very active and who fits with VCA and obviously is not a cop clear.

SC if you are a cop clear that does not clear you from SK. And from what I have gathered a tailor is not the same as a framer.


3. Ank was right the vote on strange cougar just for the wrong reasons. It wasn't town telling it was just scum gambitting on strange cougar throwing the game by not voting (like he pretty much always has.)

4.You said strange was unlynchable nacho. Rachmarie might of considered that into her night kill with out realizing what would of happened if she left me and strange togther.

VOTE: rachmarie

Well I'm giving the game to you nacho. Even through I feel I'm right about rachmarie being sk. I don't think town will win this game.
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Post Post #5084 (isolation #665) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:55 am

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In post 5083, Nachomamma8 wrote:Not hammering.
Going to sleep.


Didn't expect you to. :neutral:
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Post Post #5085 (isolation #666) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:23 am

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Rachmarie now is the time to you know mmm counter push me and get conversation flowing. Because it's obvious that nacho is town.
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Post Post #5087 (isolation #667) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:31 am

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In post 5086, RachMarie wrote:I admit I was wrong about SC

I do agree that Nacho is town here I doubt he would have gone off to sleep and not taken advantage of you voting me off the bat, garmr

If you recall, you were in my scum pile and have been for a while, that is why I was questioning you so much about your interactions with Mollie.

Since I feel I am right about Nacho being town that leaves you

VOTE: garmr


So why did you kill Strange cougar The easiest path for both us as sk would of been to kill nacho due to the fact we both had strong scum reads on strange cougar. actually save that till the end of the game.

Are their any points other than process of elimination?

I mean you keeped saying this
In post 3487, RachMarie wrote:Garmr

And if you are wrong and she ends up flipping town? Who will you look at then?


Also your case on me being sk with my interactions with mollie.

In post 4154, RachMarie wrote:Plus your total tunnel on Mollie being SK stuffs

The only one at this point who should be hot to get rid of the SK is scum, once we get rid of all the maf team, we can look at SK hunting. Several peeps have pointed this out and yet you have totally focused on sk and tunneling Mollie, I even asked you what if she flips town, what will you do?


Well look at that it's about me being mafia and unless you accusing me of being mafia and admitting to being sk your Analise on my interactions work towards me being town instead of against. As you pointed only mafia would hunt sk at that stage and I wasn't mafia.

Also sk.1 would want sk.2 to be alive as long as possible well at least till the mafia is wiped out. So you trying to push the votes away from sk constantly seem like a pretty sk thing to do lol.














Also off topic post but just realized
In post 1392, Garmr wrote:Through I don't believe his HI is a cop and he probably doing all this shit to gets peoples reactions and he seems quite confident he won't get lynched. HI What happens if we really have a cop and they are dumb enough to counterclaim you at this point?

Another instance of garmrs esp.

Along with mafia had day talk.
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Post Post #5088 (isolation #668) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:32 am

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post 3847 shows you have some knowledge before hand that mollie probably wasn't sk.
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Post Post #5090 (isolation #669) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:16 am

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Ok then
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Post Post #5092 (isolation #670) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:59 am

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In post 5091, RachMarie wrote:Seriously Garmr? you are basing I am the other SK based on the fact that I did not believe your case on Mollie being an SK? :igmeou:


You didn't even bother to read it did you. That was one aspect of a couple.
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Post Post #5094 (isolation #671) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:12 am

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Also I have actual legit reasons to why you are sk you do not. You got here by lurking, only caring about your own survival and the sheer stupidity of town (strange cougar not voting). The night kills proves how sloppy you are because you weren't even smart enough to realize that a strange cougar/garmr end game would = a easy win.

I don't want to lose a town game because I lost to many before. I have tried so fucking hard to catch scum risked my neck multiple times to lynch people I expected as scum. I put my heart and soul into this game, fuck I even lost a close friend because of my belief she was sk and even got excited as hell when I thought i caught her.
I'm going to take it all out on you by finding where you slipped.
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Post Post #5095 (isolation #672) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:18 am

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In post 5093, RachMarie wrote:I kept saying that because I had a town read on Mollie and that read did not change after Mollie became Nacho, in fact it became even stronger because I can't see either mafia Mollie or sk Mollie replacing out like she did just because you were death tunneling her. I often ask peeps who tunnel hard on someone what if so and so flips town what will you do then. It is to try to push them into looking at the forest not just the one tree they are focused on. Particularly if I have a strong town read on someone.


Your avoiding all the other points that were laid out and trying to steer it in a different direction.

1. You trying to say sk would active when you havent been active.
2. Not having a real case on me at all.
3.I was debunking your argument that i was sk thus since your sk you can't provide a case because my behavior is not beneficial for a odd/even night sk. thats the basis of it.
4. You haven't even bothered to defend yourself against earlier points that are still valid.
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Post Post #5099 (isolation #673) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:19 am

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In post 3486, RachMarie wrote:feeling pretty good about Ank he can go in my town pile He also brings up a good point for those who say Mollie is the SK lynch her with fire, At this stage in a large game, having the double deaths works against the scum. Why look so hard for the SK? He or she may be antitown,
but so far has done a lot to help with finding scum.
If we get all the maf lynched or they get NKed by the SK, that helps town at this point, later we can catch the SK.

House you are off base but that is ok you keep thinking I am scum whilst I think you are, sooner or later we will know who is right :P Though why would you as town soft defend someone you think is scum, I have no clue on?

Anyone else you think is scum, or maybe some town reads?


This is the slip I been looking for. She's patting herself on the back here and talking her self up in a third person veiw. She was the one who netted the kill.

In post 1906, RachMarie wrote:VOTE: Hostile Intent


Starts off the day voting the claimed fbi agent.I feel like she was threatened by his presence as she doesn't justify keeping her vote on him in fact she already pushing tda as potential scum.

In post 1926, RachMarie wrote:Pine why would they have an FBI Agent if there is no Sk? Or do you think there is an SK but they did not do a NK last night? I
would think if there is an SK they would have shot him last night instead, we have ONE VT night killed and no other NKs.
Not yet completely ruling out multi because there could be a protective role that got lucky. But it does seem suspicious to me.


That is why I think his claim is bogus.

Though I do understand the whole un CCed PR claim thingy. Just seems to me that FBI in a game that looks like it is one team out there killing would be a great fake claim.

Meanwhile, I will spend sometime this weekend looking at others as well see if I can get a better handle now that we have a flip.


I will be V/LA for a few days or so starting on Oct 28th We (NS and I) are driving from CA to TN and we will be relying on wifi connections for a bit.


The bolded section pushes for the lynch and shows none belief on a sk in the game. Yet she says there may be another mafia team who's shot got blocked. She doesn't mention the scenario that the sk shot might of been blocked. This iltalic section makes me believe she is setting up for tomorrows kill and contradicts the thought process of their being no possibility of sk which she posted earlier. She would of defenly considered it.
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Post Post #5102 (isolation #674) » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:31 am

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In post 5100, Nachomamma8 wrote:Garmr, how exactly is that a slip? The SK has done a lot of help in netting scum, considering a bunch of dead scum and all.


It's congratulatory pat on the back. The tone shes talking shows see see's sk in a postive light.
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Post Post #5105 (isolation #675) » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:03 pm

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In post 5103, RachMarie wrote:It was a matter of fact statement based on people feeling that the SK were executing which were most of the NKs at that point.

Plus you were pushing SK Mollie based on the NKs, so it made sense to make statements about them that showed you were most likely off base. I was trying to get you to look beyond your death tunnel on Mollie because I was hoping you were misguided town.


i was pushing mollie earlier because I thought she was mafia. I had the impression she was scum of some kind since day 2. Also it wasn't based on night kills alone it was based on her actions as well.
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Post Post #5108 (isolation #676) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:25 am

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In post 5107, Nachomamma8 wrote:If there are maybe really good things to bring up about your towniness or other people's scumminess, bring it up now but I think my decision's mostly made.


Well I said all I have to say so go for it.
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Post Post #5110 (isolation #677) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:16 pm

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your a idiot nacho you lost i was fucking town.
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Post Post #5111 (isolation #678) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:17 pm

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How does it feel nacho being the reason town lost because of your blindness.
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Post Post #5112 (isolation #679) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:21 pm

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Rach marie didn't fucking deserve the sk win she won becuase of the stupidty of town aka nacho and strange cougar. nacho for the final hammer and strange cougar for missing the lynch gj pat yourself on the backs.
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Post Post #5128 (isolation #680) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:25 pm

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In post 5120, Pine wrote:Garmr, before you rip into anyone further, exactly what positive contribution did you make to the Town game?

Lets see I had titus on my scum list before everyone else I made it obvious josh was town stopping him from being Mislynched. Scum followed me on the sk hunt and because of that it became obvious who they were. I made quite a few positive contributions.
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Post Post #5129 (isolation #681) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:29 pm

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Maybe i shouldn't of ripped into nacho that much but man strange cougar deserved it. He had no legit reasoning to push me as sk all game he could of nailed rachmarie like he promised but waited it out.
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Post Post #5130 (isolation #682) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:33 pm

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I am so annoyed i put so much effort in this game in finding scum. Pretty much all my town reads were right (except nero) just my null and scum were 50/50.

@vekoz I'll remember that.
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Post Post #5131 (isolation #683) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:38 pm

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also glad vekoz was shoot day 1
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Post Post #5133 (isolation #684) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:43 pm

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Will admit looking from a outside prospective it would been near impossible to tell who sk was since none it matched to any of us and the only clue was rachmarie pushing that sk had to be active. Now I calmed down a bit nacho was in a hard spot.
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Post Post #5134 (isolation #685) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:47 pm

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In post 5132, T S O wrote:unlucky garm

you did really well tso I could tell you were town in this game and by day 2 it was near obvious.
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Post Post #5137 (isolation #686) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:35 pm

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was there anything that i did that would of suggested that I was a sk.
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Post Post #5138 (isolation #687) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:37 pm

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I don't include gambits that risk my life (Like the dr thing or faking hider) or any of the nonesense SC said.
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Post Post #5163 (isolation #688) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:32 pm

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I'm sorry for getting angry I do agree when I'm emotional people do stop listening to me and I do get winded up easy.
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Post Post #5180 (isolation #689) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:21 pm

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^Will give you that you did really well. I fucked up with strange cougar through as well.
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Post Post #5184 (isolation #690) » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:43 pm

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I nearly spoiled that sorry. I kinda knew you were lying but I was willing to lynch twie anyway.

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