Mini 1625: Redemption (Game Over)

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 1.06

istott(1):

Flames682

Originalchris (2):

Whomping Willow, droog

Whomping Willow (1):

Originalchris

Riddleton (2):

GGG, kuror0

Flames682 (1):

istott

Flubbernugget (3):

crazypianist1116, Munkir, AWA

crazypianist1116 (3):

Flubbernugget, Naomi-Tan, Riddleton

Not Voting:

No one

The deadline is Nov. 28, 9:40 AM EST.
Countdown: (expired on 2014-11-28 09:40:00)

Not forcing it but next time you vote please place them at the newline.
It's easier for me to not miss it that way.

[GGG]

Flubbs, what is your case on CP. I am not seeing it in your ISO?

[crazypianist1116]

He doesn't have one.

[AWA]

In Day One, there is such little information to go off of that my vote is reserved for the one that I think will be most detrimental to scumhunting the future, after we have more than ad hominem to work with. The simple fact of the matter is that town players should try to find information that will lead to scum, and scum players will attempt to misdirect or confuse the town players so that they can't find that information. That Willow suddenly sees me as scum for the sole reason of calling out Flubber for making intentionally chaotic and confusing posts makes me very suspicious of his intentions. If you actually read my posts, while I personally disagree with his use of inflammatory language, I am MUCH more agitated at his insistence on causing general chaos and confusion, not "leveraging the slur rigamarole". If I was forced to say what my thought on the slur were, in the context of the game I would say that it is a carefully chosen tactic to elicit an emotional reaction out of the town, which serves to prevent the town from making cautious and rational analysis and judgment.

Additionally, Droog's 588 is questionable. I think Flubber is antitown, so that makes me scummy? I cannot conceive of what leap in logic you managed to make to arrive at that conclusion.

Right now, my two highest candiatess are Flubber and Droog, Flubber for causing anti-town chaos and Droog for not only encouraging that sort of chaos, but for pointing a finger at those who call it out. Flubber's 524 is exactly the kind of misdirection and poisoning the well that I'm talking about. Also notice the buddy-buddy with Droog; I could easily see a scumbuddy relationship there.

[AWA]

Mod: There are currently three votes for Flubbernugget.

[GGG]

My top scum reads right now are

OC - trying to pair whomp / droog seems scummy. Can you point out the specific posts that link droog and whomp. Also where is whomp misdirecting posts. Also an update was promised to your reads but instead went off ranting. The last one is null to slightly scummy.

Flubbs - no content, lots of posts, no hunting
Riddleton

Sorry, I've been really busy these past few days. I'll catch up soon and provide my full reads tomorrow.

This is now two days ago. Effectively since the fake dayvig gambit he hasn't posted. Riddle what are your reads

Town - Naiomi - her play would be a hell of a scum gambit
- munk Town slip early on

Kuro8 is a big null right now. Can you be more active.

I like drools comment not to kill riddle as they are neighbours and I am interested to see if anything can be gained from them talking tonight so while he is suspicious it can wait.

unvote

VOTE: flubs

[Riddleton]

@mod: Apologies for the inconvenience, but I'm afraid I have to replace out.

[kuror0]

Well too bad for Riddle he was still my strongest scum read and was planing to push for his full reads tomorrow since he said he would do it in post 474 and has been more than a day since he promised that, yet he participated in the whole slur thing without any meaningful input.

GGG I'm checking constantly but most of today's conversation was about something Im not interesting in dealing whit, so nothing to add there. I will participate as I see fit or when i see things i can use, and was hoping ww, flame, droog and OC would finish their discussion, hopefully without as much aggression as before because they are the ones deeper in a gray area on my reads so far. Will check tomorrow the wiki to know what this neighbor thing is, because as i said before i have no clue what mechanics does that involve and clearing that up should clear my mind as to what to do next, also Riddle being replaced doesn't help.

[Flames682]

It's clear that Flubber is just trying to add chaos and confusion to the game, and I don't particularly care about the reason. That kind of posting style, behavior, and language serves only to distract from the true goal of the game, which is to eliminate the scum. Creating distractions OF ANY KIND supports the scum. That is why I am in favor of removing Flubber from the game.

So basically you want a Policy Lynch is what you're saying here because of posting style. Not saying Flubber isn't scum because I think he is but your reasoning is flawed here.

[Flames682]

Been really busy with school so if I don't post my reads tomorrow someone remind me.

[AWA]

It's clear that Flubber is just trying to add chaos and confusion to the game, and I don't particularly care about the reason. That kind of posting style, behavior, and language serves only to distract from the true goal of the game, which is to eliminate the scum. Creating distractions OF ANY KIND supports the scum. That is why I am in favor of removing Flubber from the game.

So basically you want a Policy Lynch is what you're saying here because of posting style. Not saying Flubber isn't scum because I think he is but your reasoning is flawed here.

I elaborate more on this in 603.

[Flames682]

Anti-town does not always equal scum.

[AWA]

When it comes to this game, I see no significant difference between abetting scum by being flagrantly anti-town and true scum.

[Flames682]

Well then you are acting anti-town by only wanting to lynch anti-town instead of looking deeper as to scum who could be manipulating that anti-town person.

That was terribly said but hopefully you got the point

[istott]

My vote no longer stands on flames. For the moment, I will UNVOTE: flames1234567890(I can't help putting random numbers in XD)
This will likely be my final post before I leave, so bye everyone!
See you in a few days!

[GGG]

When it comes to this game, I see no significant difference between abetting scum by being flagrantly anti-town and true scum.

Please explain this. I think the difference is huge. I would say most mislynches start with a townie over reading anti town behaviour.

[droog]

When it comes to this game, I see no significant difference between abetting scum by being flagrantly anti-town and true scum.

"Anti tow" is so flexible
You can define anything you don't like under it

[Flubbernugget]

Flubbs, what is your case on CP. I am not seeing it in your ISO?

I saw his inconsistent tone as a red flag and dropped a naked vote to see what would happen. He completely lost his shit and got way too defensive. He can make any case he wants but his intentions scream self preservation over scumhunting.

[Flubbernugget]

Droog prove to me you're not buddying me. I feel like you're buddying me.

[Flubbernugget]

I soo wish Kuribo was in this game right now.

[Flubbernugget]

I feel like AWA is more interested in conformity to his playing style than true scumhunting but I don't know if that's anti-town or scummy.

[Flubbernugget]

flubber and pianist are both trolls
but when each one talks i like their position better
thinking its definietly not town v town
leaning toward pianist being the scum

Why is Pianist the scum here?

[GGG]

flubber and pianist are both trolls
but when each one talks i like their position better
thinking its definietly not town v town
leaning toward pianist being the scum

Has this type of either or read ever worked out when made day 150k. When backed by vote history you can make some either or links but two guys arguing can you really get a read from. It's pure wifom.

It's scummy early on because it sets up a moslynch day one and a mislynch day 2 and all you have to do is pick two random people arguing and say 1 is scum one is town.

[Munkir]

Unvote

I think i did that right

As of right now I have no scum reads only a vague idea of what I'm looking for and who I'm looking at

I think its one of those cases of "I will know it when I see it"

[GGG]

Unvote

I think i did that right

As of right now I have no scum reads only a vague idea of what I'm looking for and who I'm looking at

I think its one of those cases of "I will know it when I see it"

Keep a vote on someone. You might not be confident in it but forcing scum (not necessarily you) to keep votes on people will help us later on. A vague idea of where you are at is better than nothing.