Doctor Who Mafia 2- GAME OVER!

[DrippingGoofball]

Got it.

unvote, vote: Cicero

[vollkan]

Got it also.

Unvote

I intend to look at Cicero shortly

[ChronX]

I might have got it...I haven't watched the show for a while and have to rely on the wiki. But

unvote

[Erg0]

Hmmm.

Unvote

[cicero]

I didn't get it but I don't think you should be revealing your role until you are ar L-1, Taff. Apparently to the Doctor Who heads it doesn't matter cuz they know you're role now. Which is too bad. You are way further from a lynch then you think.

[Yosarian2]

Ah, cool, game is back open.

So, Taff...apparently semi-claimed? *woosh* (sound of Taff's last post going over my head).

[Tarhalindur]

Yay, back in action.

I don't see Taff's crumb myself, but given the way DGB and Vollkan are acting and my experience in Open 27 I'm going to

Unvote

.

The way that Jamuraan hopped onto the Aisar wagon, combined with Aisar pointing out his stunt, strongly suggests that Aisar's replacement is town, then at the very least not Dalek.

I will look over the remaining players as time permits, starting with cicero.

Setup notes:

This game is almost certainly new series-only. We've seen a minor new series character (Mrs. Moore), who probably wouldn't show up if the old series was included. In addition, the picture given of the Cybercontroller is the new incarnation, and every Dalek we've seen so far is a Cult of Skaro member (and therefore new series-specific).

The Dalek mafia is almost certainly a four man mafia consisting of the four members of the Cult of Skaro, and the two surviving members are likely to be Dalek Jast and Dalek Sec (the latter is probably the Godfather).

I am unsure of whether the Face of Boe would actually be in the game, especially since Wikipedia indicates one of the producers made it clear that the Face is the future incarnation of my role (Jack Harkness). It really shouldn't take too much effort to figure out what my ability is (take a look at the Jack Harkness entry on Wiki for details). Even if the Face is in the game, I could see him as a neutral survivor (though the information I've picked up from Wiki on Series 3 makes me much less sure about this).

[Yosarian2]

This game is almost certainly new series-only.

Bah; I hope not, I really thought I was joining a game with a theme I knew well for once, hehe.

[Erg0]

Tar, why did you just claim?

[Flameaxe]

My thoughts exactly.

[Erg0]

Also, given that this is a game about time travelling it's not so preposterous that we could have two different incarnations of the same character.

[vollkan]

First up, @Tar why the hell did you just claim!? I have been hinting so many times that the presence of Jack is not incompatible with the presence of Boe. Please make NO further hints as to your actual in-game role.

Secondly, as promised, my analysis of Cicero:
Not a lot of helpful stuff overall, but I could say the same thing for almost everybody. I read over him and most of Cicero's posts don't ring bells for me. Indeed, his arguments against ChronX for the role-fishing are entirely sensible. I get a faint whiff of damage control regarding Jamuraan, but I think it's a tad speculative.

[Mastermind of Sin]

wtf is tar doing?

[Yosarian2]

Tar's been hinting at that role for a while now, but yeah, no reason for him to come out and claim it like that.

[cicero]

There was total damage control going on. It was just for the town not the scum. I couldn't assume that he was actually scum because he was such a shit that I thought he would have said he was scum whether he was town or scum. I went and looked and read his newbie game, where I found this absolute gem:

I also dont understand how you pricks havent finished a day of Mafia in 14 goddamn real days. Are you guys just prissy ass girls or what? Be a man and make a decision and quit pussy-footing around. Even if you have to lynch me, your cop, then go ahead because it just shows how stupid you are.

But seriously, learn how to play Mafia faster than 2 weeks for 1 day.

And decided that he was just interested in wrecking things and what he said couldn't be trusted. So truth is that at that point the game was going so crappy with the SA people that I was more interested in him not getting what he wanted. I wanted to cast doubt on whether he was scum or not and I hoped Battlemage would replace him with another player who would go - "oh he just said that because he's a shit I'm really town". Then the game could go on as normal. And it had nothing to do with being scum or town. It had everything to do with being pissed that people were so disrespectful of the work that battlemage put into creating the game. This wasnt just open mafia. Clearly BM put a lot of work into this. And to have someone just jump up and yell I'm scum, is a really shitty thing to do.

In order to find what I did scummy you would have to assume that I wouldn't have a motive to do what I did as a member of the town. Can you say that?

(Can I still I'm still a bit upset? )

[vollkan]

wtf is tar doing?

Tar is counter-claiming...just without the "counter" part.

[cicero]

Oh - I should have pointed out - in that game he (Jamuuran) was townie but wasn't the cop. So I found him to be a complete bullshitter.

[caps]

eh, screw it. let's mix things up

##unvote

##vote cicero

[ChannelDelibird]

Back after absence, will read up and comment ASAP.

[TaffMaster]

I didn't get it but I don't think you should be revealing your role until you are ar L-1, Taff. Apparently to the Doctor Who heads it doesn't matter cuz they know you're role now. Which is too bad. You are way further from a lynch then you think.

I agree, and I wasnt going to claim. But to be honest, with the thread being locked Ive kind of grown a little disillusioned with the game and with people just coming back and voting for me I'd prefer to take away the easy option so town have to look at other options, rather than waiting 5-10 days for another 8 votes.

I guess I dont need to full claim now?

[vollkan]

I agree, and I wasnt going to claim. But to be honest, with the thread being locked Ive kind of grown a little disillusioned with the game and with people just coming back and voting for me I'd prefer to take away the easy option so town have to look at other options, rather than waiting 5-10 days for another 8 votes.

I guess I dont need to full claim now?

No, don't full claim.

The thing is, Taff, that claiming at all is bad. The important thing about waiting for votes is that it gather information. That would have been 8 more people who we would have some information on. Instead, by claiming, you prevent the opportunity for the town to benefit from the information gained by the wagon on you reaching a serious size.

[TaffMaster]

MEh, all discussion has been about me.

Now at least people feel they have to talk about me.

[TaffMaster]

ABOUT OTHERS I MEAN

[vollkan]

You don't get it.

If you had waited until the wagon got to a serious size and then claimed, we would have more information. Maybe the information would not be particularly helpful, maybe it would. The point is that by claiming, you cut off any hope for people to vote you, thereby cutting off our access to any arguments to scrutinise etc.

Do you understand what I mean?

[TaffMaster]

Yes. But the way discussion had stagnated over the last few days, and with the thread reopening and me getting a no content vote and another FOS, I wanted to do it. Because to be honest, I'm sick of saying the same things, especially as we are up to page 27