Mini 1660 - TTH's Mini Normal (Game Over)

[Jingle]

Which is concerning because I'd be expecting him to be trying to convince me he's town regardless of if he is

[Formerfish]

Sorry, closed Monday night and then got slightly smammered, then Zoo all day yesterday with my girls.

I've never made a town case for myself before. I am usually just seen as it or I am not. I have been pushed as scum when I wasn't once before and got shittily quickhammered.

[Slandaar]

That isn't a very good defence Fishie.

IF you are town your fellow townies need you to step up and be the townie you were born to be. We don't want excuses.

[Formerfish]

I've been reading Jingle as town for longer than anyone else. I stand behind my Arch read based off everything I've said before. I feel like killing Thor could have been an attempt to frame me because his shot was going on myself or skold. If scum thought the kill might be coming more their way, skold, killing Thor would make it look like I could be scum too. Slandaar was town reading me yesterday so killing him would make it lookike they were trying to eliminate my support and make my mislynch easier to accomplish. RM is most likely scum that either volunteered to be bussed or it was decided by his partners because he is useless in any other fashion. I know my play has been erratic here, and I really do apologize for that. In games where I'm vt I usually look for something I can sink my teeth into and it took awhile for me to find it. Arches insisting that my hammer was solo scummy that it became the base for his read on me is ridiculous. In just about any other game that hammer is barely mentioned, yet here it becomes the crux of the interaction between him and I. Then he backs it up by saying I let skold defend me. I don't know if I missed where I pleaded for others to help me out, but I don't think that happened. White knighting is a thing and it could be very possible for skold to be defending me because he knew how hard it would be for me to get a real wagon going on arch knowing that RM wouldn't vote there and not many of Slan, Thor or Jingle expressed interest.

Scum team is Arch and RM.

Vote RM

[Jingle]

So what I'm seeing is that tomorrow I should be dead and you make Slandaar decide the game. Can we all agree on that? Kill me, cause there's no way people will believe I was scum with RM, and I can blame Sland if he picks wrong.

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

Fish, "everything you've said before" has been rebutted to a certain extent. Failing to acknowledge my defenses and attacks is a bit odd of you. Also, if RM had volunteered to be bussed, and I'm the other scum, why haven't I hammered him or voted for him, at all? In fact, what interactions between me and RM make us two in particular seem like scumbuddies?

Jingle, why do you think you'll be dead tomorrow?

My paranoia still is shouting at me that Jingle

could

be scum, but at this point, I think I've resigned to the idea that if Jingle is scum, town loses. His conflicts with Skold seem to indicate that he's not scum, though.

[Slandaar]

If I am alive tomorrow I would be very happy. I doubt it though.

[Jingle]

Because it's not actually different than leaving Sland alive. Basically, at this point, neither of us are viable mislynches for scum, so whichever of the two of you is scum is going to pick whichever of the two of us they think is easier to convince to vote their way.

And I'd prefer not to have to do the full reread that comes with LYLO if at all possible.

Oh, and tinfoil theory for the day: Balance wise, slandaar could be scum if it was a two person scumteam. If RM flips town and the game isn't over, lynch sland.

[Jingle]

Could someone hammer, btw? We're clearly not advancing the game state.

[Slandaar]

I was considering voting someone other than RM but I shall leave it to tomorrow...

I have posted what I think.

VOTE: RM

[The Archmage Ludicrous]

I was willing to hammer RM before, but right now I'm terrified. The fish/Jingle scum combination is one that I can't entirely rule out, but I'm certain about fish being scum. His consistent failure to rebut my points or mount any significant defense only solidifies my suspicion.

I'd definitely be willing to hammer if fish was on the block, but I'm no longer feeling confident enough that RM is scum for me to hammer him.

@Jingle, why are you so certain RM is scum? I can't read him. You haven't elaborated on the sort of trolling he does from your past experience with him, can you tell me why your knowledge of his trolling makes you think that he's scum? Going for the easy lynch on RM seems like the sort of thing scum would do in LyLo on this last day, since everyone knows he won't mount any defense. I'm concerned of the possibility that you and fish are buddies going for that last lynch. I don't like you for scum, because you attacked Skold pretty heavily, but I'm just that one ounce too disquieted to trust you on word here.

Afternote:

Looks like Sland hammered while I was typing this up. Either we lose the game, or we win. Let's cross our fingers.

[Slandaar]

RM is scum no worries Arch. Fish tomorrow seems good.

[Jingle]

You haven't elaborated on the sort of trolling he does from your past experience with him, can you tell me why your knowledge of his trolling makes you think that he's scum?

He claimed his scumteam as scum in a game on D2. And I've never seen him do anything that looked like solving a game. He is fully half of my blacklist.

[RationalMadman]

I was considering voting someone other than RM but I shall leave it to tomorrow...

I have posted what I think.

VOTE: RM

when i flip town, rethink your actions.

[RationalMadman]

jingle's town because scum wouldn't push this hard on someone they knew would flip town

[RationalMadman]

You haven't elaborated on the sort of trolling he does from your past experience with him, can you tell me why your knowledge of his trolling makes you think that he's scum?

He claimed his scumteam as scum in a game on D2. And I've never seen him do anything that looked like solving a game. He is fully half of my blacklist.

You are incorrect. I don't remember outing my team but if I ever did, I've always tried to solve games. This game formerfish is scum for going on easy bw on me to hide omgus.

[RationalMadman]

formerfish also overly explains his vote, he was posting bare sentence before and now a chunky paragraph?

[Jingle]

jingle's town because scum wouldn't push this hard on someone they knew would flip town

Lolnope. You're scum. If I had any doubts, the lack of a quick hammer is proof enough. IF RM flips town and the game isn't over, island is the remaining scum.

[Slandaar]

Where art thou mod.

[Jingle]

I'll shoot her a PM.

[TellTaleHeart]

Phooey, sorry about the absence. I'll be posting the flip shortly.

[TellTaleHeart]

• Vote Count 4,2

RationalMadman [3] Jingle, Formerfish, Slandaar
Formerfish [1] RationalMadman

Not Voting [1] The Archmage Ludicrous

Lynch Threshold: 3

RationalMadman, Mafia Goon, was lynched Day 4.
It is now Night 4. Please send in your actions in the next (expired on 2015-05-21 12:22:48).

[TellTaleHeart]

The Archmage Ludicrous, Vanilla Townie, has been killed. It is not Day 5.

[Jingle]

What?

Like, seriously, what the fuck?

That was possibly the stupidest kill I've ever seen. Sland only had to kill me to win cause I was the only person who had considered him as scum since massclaim. Fish had a tough LYLO, but there was actually someone he could convince me was scum.

:/

I'm not gonna worry about second guessing myself. Intent to vote FF unless he says something super convincing.

[Jingle]

Actually, fuck it. This has gone on long enough and Sland deserves the win if he's scum.

VOTE: Formerfish