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[Antihero]

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my desire to kill LR is quickly rising

[Antihero]

VOTE: lucian

there we go

[Marquis]

V O T E C O U N T

1 . 0 3

I think her ever-present frown is a little troubling,
and she thinks I'm psycho cuz I like to rhyme her name with things!

— "Better than Revenge",

Speak Now

(2)

Antihero

— Endless Possibilities

(L-5)

(0)

Aristophanes

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(0)

Bookitty

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(0)

Elyse

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(0)

Empking

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(0)

Endless Possibilities

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Espeonage

— Empking, Not_Mafia, LucianRoy

(L-4)

(1)

killerjester

— The Bulge

(L-6)

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LucianRoy

— killerjester, Antihero

(L-5)

(4)

Not_Mafia

— Elyse, Bookitty, Soren, Espeonage

(L-3)

(0)

Om of the Nom

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Soren

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The Bulge

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Not Voting

— Aristophanes, Om of the Nom

With

13

alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-04-05 21:15:00)

(Sun Apr 5 @ 21:15:00 EDT).

Om of the Nom

will be prodded if he does not post within the 48 hours since game start.

[Soren]

Soren: How many games have you played?

This is my fourth game on mafiascum.

I've probably played somewhere around 40+ games elsewhere though.

@MOD:

Could we have a gentle and kind prod on Aristophanes and Om of the Nom, please?

In other news, I'm pretty sure Endless Possibilities is town. Soren too.

What's the town read on Endless?

Hey Everyone!
Sorry I hadn't been here yet. Weekends I work a shit tonne and am usually pretty much V/LA for.

Endless Possibilities seems to be trying to get in Bookitty's good book.

soren is town. discuss

Because he spotted and commented on your shameless buddying?

I saw all that as obviously RVS playfulness, not shameless buddying.
Soren & Bookitty, what makes this buddying? It was just the posted picture, right?
Soren, do you get anything alignment indicative from EP's apparent buddying on Boo and yourself?

Piesonic, is your doublevote permanent or just for today as well?

Vote: Not_Mafia

Espionage, how did you know it was EP and not Lucian that was the doublevoter?
At the time of this post I see no way to have known that information.

Also, EST is my timezone. I saw someone (Soren?) ask that.

@MOD:

Could we have a gentle and kind prod on Aristophanes and Om of the Nom, please?

In other news, I'm pretty sure Endless Possibilities is town. Soren too.

Easy does it. I'm here!

I don't really see anything alignment indicative other than Endless being playful with Bookitty, which may just be masking the fact that he wants to get in BooKitty's good book, but I think he's probably more clever than this, so I'll have to agree with you that it's more likely to be RVS playfullness. Calling me town on the other hand, is based on meta reading. I don't see much buddying from that.

my desire to kill LR is quickly rising

You said kill instead of lynch?

And why?

[Bookitty]

What's the town read on Endless?

I would expect way more defensiveness from scum in responding to my joking accusation that he was shamelessly buddying me. That didn't happen, so lean-town. The other reason I don't want to point out right now but you may know it anyway.

[Soren]

VOTE: LucianRoy

Why did you vote for the only unconfirmed player?

Hey ho, good point.

Picking on someone who hasn't even showed up and not confirmed to the game?

I remember you, Lucian, accusing someone of scum for voting for someone who hasn't even showed up in the game yet.

Hypocrisy much?

It's okay when I do it. Lol.
You know how much of a hypocrite I am Soren. When I played as conf. town with a guard-role, I ran that game like a dictatorship by forcing people's reads, and then killing them for giving me bad reads. However, in a 5 scum game, with an sk, we ended on day four.

No, but seriously, in the game where I voted her because of voting lurkers, I read that vote as a slip when he showed up just after she voted him for that divine reason of not posting in the thread.
In her case, she was trying to bait out the lurkers. My vote's just an RVS.
Her appearance in game also threw me off. She usually votes her friends because they know it's just a joke, but not in that case.

Double standards.

What makes you think it's okay for you to do it?

[Soren]

Marquis your formatting never fails to impress me.

VOTE: killerjester

Proper nouns begin with an uppercase letter, fool.

• accidental quote removed, and thank you

Whoa why did it quote that Marquis help pls

I think it's time you say something else.

Look at the number of votes on Antihero, please.

Carry on

Huh huh huh?

VOTE: LucianRoy

Why did you vote for the only unconfirmed player?

Started of strong with a non-RVS vote but didn't follow up with it later. Where are you?

Piesonic, is your doublevote permanent or just for today as well?

Vote: Not_Mafia

Came to a weird assumption and hasn't explained himself after multiple cases of interrogating.

Come and explain yourself.

[Elyse]

There are currently three votes for Antihero despite only LR and EP having votes on him. So EP is a doublevoter.

I didn't realize initially because I thought the votes would be split based on the last two votes rather than count twice for one person.

[Soren]

There are currently three votes for Antihero despite only LR and EP having votes on him. So EP is a doublevoter.

I didn't realize initially because I thought the votes would be split based on the last two votes rather than count twice for one person.

Ohhhh. Lucian and Endless voted for antihero, but the vote count says there are 3 votes on them.

But where did you draw the assumption that Endless of the doublevoter? Could it not be Lucian?

[Soren]

EBWOP

There are currently three votes for Antihero despite only LR and EP having votes on him. So EP is a doublevoter.

I didn't realize initially because I thought the votes would be split based on the last two votes rather than count twice for one person.

Ohhhh. Lucian and Endless voted for antihero, but the vote count says there are 3 votes on them.

But where did you draw the assumption that Endless

is

the doublevoter? Could it not be Lucian?

Changed one word.

[Elyse]

Well EP already hinted at something with his votes being altered when he said someone was on the right track for calling him voteless.

[Soren]

Well EP already hinted at something with his votes being altered when he said someone was on the right track for calling him voteless.

Oh I should read through that part again.

[Espeonage]

Hey Everyone!
Sorry I hadn't been here yet. Weekends I work a shit tonne and am usually pretty much V/LA for.

Endless Possibilities seems to be trying to get in Bookitty's good book.

soren is town. discuss

Because he spotted and commented on your shameless buddying?

I saw all that as obviously RVS playfulness, not shameless buddying.
Soren & Bookitty, what makes this buddying? It was just the posted picture, right?
Soren, do you get anything alignment indicative from EP's apparent buddying on Boo and yourself?

Piesonic, is your doublevote permanent or just for today as well?

Vote: Not_Mafia

Espionage, how did you know it was EP and not Lucian that was the doublevoter?
At the time of this post I see no way to have known that information.

Also, EST is my timezone. I saw someone (Soren?) ask that.

@MOD:

Could we have a gentle and kind prod on Aristophanes and Om of the Nom, please?

In other news, I'm pretty sure Endless Possibilities is town. Soren too.

Easy does it. I'm here!

Given that Hated + Double Vote is a common counterbalance and that there was an extra vote on anti, kinda goes without saying.

[Empking]

Espeonage is my main town read, so I should probably:

Unvote
Vote: Antihero

[killerjester]

Prod dodge. Lost a close friend on Sunday and it's been a struggle for me. Will post later tonight when I have some time to focus, or consider replacing out if I can't.

[Soren]

My condolences killerjester. Hang in there buddy.

[Soren]

Why did you ask how many games I have played Empking?

[Antihero]

You said kill instead of lynch?

...we are not going to get along...

And why?

a few things

it feels like the posts are padded with obvious crap that isn't really NECESSARY but he just kind of throws in there for filler and to look good. a couple examples of this:
[Post 59 "Let's not let the mafia know much more than that. Desire to see role information this early is only slightly scummy."]
[Post 67 "In other words, I love information, in moderation. I've witnessed first hand what happens to games with "information overloads." There is also a degree in which the town should keep the scum in the dark. Revealing information to town, by use of the thread, also means you reveal it to scum. There are some things better left unknown as town, and where our knowledge fails, speculation will suffice."]

also feels like he's leaning too hard on certainty on things that shouldn't COMPLETELY be there. perfect example of what i'm talking about: ["Right now, we know EP has a double vote, and he's hated."] we KNOW he's hated? how? newbs are usually more skeptical than this and he seems to be taking metal sonic's role too much at face value.

[LucianRoy]

VOTE: LucianRoy

Why did you vote for the only unconfirmed player?

Hey ho, good point.

Picking on someone who hasn't even showed up and not confirmed to the game?

I remember you, Lucian, accusing someone of scum for voting for someone who hasn't even showed up in the game yet.

Hypocrisy much?

It's okay when I do it. Lol.
You know how much of a hypocrite I am Soren. When I played as conf. town with a guard-role, I ran that game like a dictatorship by forcing people's reads, and then killing them for giving me bad reads. However, in a 5 scum game, with an sk, we ended on day four.

No, but seriously, in the game where I voted her because of voting lurkers, I read that vote as a slip when he showed up just after she voted him for that divine reason of not posting in the thread.
In her case, she was trying to bait out the lurkers. My vote's just an RVS.
Her appearance in game also threw me off. She usually votes her friends because they know it's just a joke, but not in that case.

Double standards.

What makes you think it's okay for you to do it?

It was a joke, and our reasons are different, as stated above.

[LucianRoy]

You said kill instead of lynch?

...we are not going to get along...

And why?

a few things

it feels like the posts are padded with obvious crap that isn't really NECESSARY but he just kind of throws in there for filler and to look good. a couple examples of this:
[Post 59 "Let's not let the mafia know much more than that. Desire to see role information this early is only slightly scummy."]
[Post 67 "In other words, I love information, in moderation. I've witnessed first hand what happens to games with "information overloads." There is also a degree in which the town should keep the scum in the dark. Revealing information to town, by use of the thread, also means you reveal it to scum. There are some things better left unknown as town, and where our knowledge fails, speculation will suffice."]

also feels like he's leaning too hard on certainty on things that shouldn't COMPLETELY be there. perfect example of what i'm talking about: ["Right now, we know EP has a double vote, and he's hated."] we KNOW he's hated? how? newbs are usually more skeptical than this and he seems to be taking metal sonic's role too much at face value.

I was explaining my reasoning, and answering questions, but if you rather I didn't, then I guess I don't have to.
I don't really have a reason to not take it at face value. As Esp mentioned, hated seems like a suitable counter-balance for a double-voter.
Here's a question: what reason do you have to suspect EP of not being hated? Since you seem find me scummy for believing him.

[Espeonage]

Will probs do stuff for this game at some point today. No promises. But I will try. It might be a slow day at work, if it is I can do stuff.

[Endless Possibilities]

Anti, are you scum?

[Endless Possibilities]

Critical information that could determine the death of a scum-member is usually pro-town. Information regarding a town aligned gambit-role for instance, is not.

I don't particularly have a problem with your explanation, but I disagree Esp asking that question is scum motivated. I could just as easily see it coming from town who thinks it's a better idea for me to full claim. I don't see a reason I should full claim here, but a lot of town players think it's a better idea to have information like this on the table as opposed to hiding it.

do you have any scum reads at this point?

Espeonage is my main town read, so I should probably:

Unvote
Vote: Antihero

y

[Espeonage]

It equates in to lynch majorities so it is something I was interested in knowing, plus curiosity.

[Endless Possibilities]

Soren is town as shit, Bookitty is probably town.

don't like Aris' one post. it feels like textbook scum asking questions here and there and sitting on the sidelines, but not taking any firm stances

don't like Anti, namely for the last paragraph of 92. everyone in the game appears to be taking my claim at face value, so I don't understand the point in singling LR out; saying it's scummy bc "newbs are paranoid" feels way too shallow.