I already explained that. I almost got myself mislynched in the span of two hours in Necromancer because I flipped out over getting a couple of votes, so that understandably scared me off of it but I’m trying to overcome it because I was tired of continuously avoiding it.
Right. I got that. Why did you flip cause a couple of votes? That’s going to happen a lot
Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
I already explained that. I almost got myself mislynched in the span of two hours in Necromancer because I flipped out over getting a couple of votes, so that understandably scared me off of it but I’m trying to overcome it because I was tired of continuously avoiding it.
Right. I got that. Why did you flip cause a couple of votes? That’s going to happen a lot
I obviously didn’t understand how RVS worked. It was my first regular mafia game on the site and wasn’t familiar with it.
In post 67, Flicker wrote:I just didn't see anything scummy about it.
But weren’t you hoping to read the potential reaction? How could you know if the reaction to your inquiry would be scummy or not?
Fair point, there could have been a scummy reaction. I guess I'm just not creative enough to imagine what that would look like.
Sounds like someone who knows shos is town.
VOTE: Flicker
I'd actually argue exactly the opposite. If memory serves me right, I used to do that on RVS in games to provoke reactions. Can't remember if I did that as scum too though (last scum game was probably 2 years ago...). I was surprised to see flickers post as he indeed was spot on.
While that may be some sort of white knighting, I didn't even begin to have any pressure on ME so WK wasn't needed or useful for flickerscum.
In post 67, Flicker wrote:I just didn't see anything scummy about it.
But weren’t you hoping to read the potential reaction? How could you know if the reaction to your inquiry would be scummy or not?
Fair point, there could have been a scummy reaction. I guess I'm just not creative enough to imagine what that would look like.
Sounds like someone who knows shos is town.
VOTE: Flicker
I'd actually argue exactly the opposite. If memory serves me right, I used to do that on RVS in games to provoke reactions. Can't remember if I did that as scum too though (last scum game was probably 2 years ago...). I was surprised to see flickers post as he indeed was spot on.
While that may be some sort of white knighting, I didn't even begin to have any pressure on ME so WK wasn't needed or useful for flickerscum.
Interesting
Either way I'm happy to say I broke RVS yoooo
You’re arguing the opposite on the sense you think it makes flicker town?
In post 67, Flicker wrote:I just didn't see anything scummy about it.
But weren’t you hoping to read the potential reaction? How could you know if the reaction to your inquiry would be scummy or not?
Fair point, there could have been a scummy reaction. I guess I'm just not creative enough to imagine what that would look like.
Sounds like someone who knows shos is town.
VOTE: Flicker
I'd actually argue exactly the opposite. If memory serves me right, I used to do that on RVS in games to provoke reactions. Can't remember if I did that as scum too though (last scum game was probably 2 years ago...). I was surprised to see flickers post as he indeed was spot on.
While that may be some sort of white knighting, I didn't even begin to have any pressure on ME so WK wasn't needed or useful for flickerscum.
Interesting
Either way I'm happy to say I broke RVS yoooo
You’re arguing the opposite on the sense you think it makes flicker town?
Shos: I disagree. All scum are trying to look Town so appearing to be making reads is something all scum have incentive and reason to do. It is weird to reaction test someone and not consider the fact that the reaction might be scummy. That’s not a reaction test. It’s a rote way of going about generating fake reads.
In post 90, Amrun wrote:Shos: I disagree. All scum are trying to look Town so appearing to be making reads is something all scum have incentive and reason to do. It is weird to reaction test someone and not consider the fact that the reaction might be scummy. That’s not a reaction test. It’s a rote way of going about generating fake reads.
Please answer me ONLY after Robbnva answers (my reply below), as his post looks like shit to me:
Could you explain in your words what you are thinking?
In post 90, Amrun wrote:Shos: I disagree. All scum are trying to look Town so appearing to be making reads is something all scum have incentive and reason to do. It is weird to reaction test someone and not consider the fact that the reaction might be scummy. That’s not a reaction test. It’s a rote way of going about generating fake reads.
My vote was not a reaction test of Fisherman. It was a general attempt to provoke, but specifically intended to pressure ethos (picked at random). So if any, I'd call that a reaction test for ethos, not for fisherman.
I’m thinking that both you and he are suspicious so far. That post flicker made definitely comes off as scum motivated. Town doesn’t need parlor tricks to get town read. Scum does however. The fact that you see it as townie is suspicious also. Hi claiming you’ve started discussion and trying to gain cred for that is also scummy.
That’s what I’m thinking
Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
That was sarcasm if it wasn't clear. Have you every seen anyone actually write LAMIST and hope to get cred for it? xD
I don't see how post 93 is similar to what Amrun said, but I'll give you some slack. Why is that scum motivated? I'd say the contrary - scum wouldn't want to attract attention as the literal first one to get a read and have to explain it. Scum needs reads as the game goes on, so that they can join wagons and avoid wagons; what scum motivation is there for fisherman to call someone town so soon?
Well 93 wasn’t going to be similar to what amrun said because I was giving my thoughts on the game. I agree with amrun’s post though. He’s obviously a better wordsmith than I am.
Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
Plus you asked why it’s scum motivated. I don’t see the town motivation for it either. So motivation aside, the act itself is scummy.
Anyone who ever has played with me knows I can’t determine motivation like others can. I view acts as either scummy or not scummy. I do try and ask myself why somebody would do something as town but I can almost never come up with an answer.
Why would town do something that looks bad and kinda stupid just for town cred? I don’t see why town feels they have to do things to ear town cred. You either earn it naturally or you don’t and if people don’t town read you, who cares.
Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
In post 836, Lucky2u said:
