Open 900: 7p Wilson [Endgame]

[Doctor Drew]

why

I can't argue that

Question for Black(and Aureal as well)

What would be the scum motivation from Psyche to post as he has?

Well I was wondering if he's trying to make something out of the way I mentioned StD in my opening post. The mention of 'alliances' makes me think that way, dunno what it means otherwise. If StD is town then playing up a connection there could be beneficial to scum, and they'd want to focus on Dragons first. Could just as well be town trying to make something of the comment. Mostly I'm just struggling to find a train of thought because Psyche seems all over the place. I can't tell how serious to take anything because stuff that seems possibly like an honest thought promptly gets undermined with tongue-in-cheek commentary.

I vibe with this train of thought

It is weird, this gives me Alianna town vibes

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, what an ironic pagetop, guess it isn't so weird that Alianna was on my mind.

[Black]

Alianna is always on my mind

[ORAM]

VC 1.02

Aureal (1):

Doctor Drew

Black (0):

Doctor Drew (2):

Psyche, Black

MargotRosa (1):

Aureal

Psyche (0):

Save The Dragons (0):

Zebedee (0):

Not Voting (3):

Zebedee, MargotRosa, Save The Dragons

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.
There are (expired on 2024-01-14 20:06:04) left in the deadline.

[Psyche]

this is great. i have a town read, a scum read, and a nemesis all by page 4.

[MargotRosa]

Really? Psyche is kinda throwing me for a loop here with the odd positioning on StD and sarcasm to deflect from it.

In general my usual early scum lean tell goes to people who don't progress the game, or stagnate in RVS too long, and vice versa. Just an early indicator, nothing hard

[MargotRosa]

The fact that some of the reads are wild and borderline nonsensical to me actually makes the town read a little stronger, as I think scum are more likely than town to appear to be putting in effort early rather than just pushing to make something happen from which to generate reads

[Doctor Drew]

The fact that some of the reads are wild and borderline nonsensical to me actually makes the town read a little stronger, as I think scum are more likely than town to appear to be putting in effort early rather than just pushing to make something happen from which to generate reads

This is kinda of a long the same lines I was thinking, yet I would say it is more NAI than anything

[Black]

The fact that some of the reads are wild and borderline nonsensical to me actually makes the town read a little stronger, as I think scum are more likely than town to appear to be putting in effort early rather than just pushing to make something happen from which to generate reads

This is kinda of a long the same lines I was thinking, yet I would say it is more NAI than anything

So not really along the same lines at all? If she thinks it's town indicative and you think it's NAI then where is the similar train of thought here

[MargotRosa]

More I think it's slightly town indicative, but ultimately it's useful coming into the resulting conversation to look at messages through that lens initially before going back and trying to see it the other way around.

[Doctor Drew]

The fact that some of the reads are wild and borderline nonsensical to me actually makes the town read a little stronger, as I think scum are more likely than town to appear to be putting in effort early rather than just pushing to make something happen from which to generate reads

This is kinda of a long the same lines I was thinking, yet I would say it is more NAI than anything

So not really along the same lines at all? If she thinks it's town indicative and you think it's NAI then where is the similar train of thought here

why

I can't argue that

Question for Black(and Aureal as well)

What would be the scum motivation from Psyche to post as he has?

These Psyche reads feel like a stretch but I'm not sure they're scum motivated

what would be the scum motivation

To try and seem like you have real reads and are trying to solve the game

Ok I glossed over that, but I feel scum would show the appearance of a more thought out read, specifically to avoid this very discussion we are having.

We said the said thing that we believe that scum would appear to being putting more thought and effort in the read, in a vacuum

Where we differ is that she seemingly town reads Psyche for it whereas I think it is more NAI since I think it is more shit posting and having fun, something that either side would do early game, despite Psyche saying they wouldn't participate in RVS(I am not suggesting there vote on me is RVS, I mean the type of posting before that).

[Doctor Drew]

More I think it's slightly town indicative, but ultimately it's useful coming into the resulting conversation to look at messages through that lens initially before going back and trying to see it the other way around.

I am sorry, been a long day and my brain is getting slower by the minute lol. But can you elaborate what you mean here?

[Black]

Oh ok I see now

[Aureal]

i…i liked the way you counted your odds of landing a vote on scum, okay?

I thought this might be what you were thinking, but yeah thats really weak. I... don't think scum could possibly be confused enough to try to give the odds of someone being town from a scum PoV because the concept makes no sense from the PoV of someone who already knows.

[MargotRosa]

More I think it's slightly town indicative, but ultimately it's useful coming into the resulting conversation to look at messages through that lens initially before going back and trying to see it the other way around.

I am sorry, been a long day and my brain is getting slower by the minute lol. But can you elaborate what you mean here?

Basically we have the difference you pointed out in 85. I see what you'd call a shit posty read during first few pages of d1 as town indicative, because, in general but especially d1, I think scum put an inordinate amount of effort into making their reads sound reasonable. At the same time, the most pro-town move is to generate enough conversation that town has something worth reading in the first place, irrespective of whether or not the way that you generate that conversation is through a shit post or not

[Doctor Drew]

More I think it's slightly town indicative, but ultimately it's useful coming into the resulting conversation to look at messages through that lens initially before going back and trying to see it the other way around.

I am sorry, been a long day and my brain is getting slower by the minute lol. But can you elaborate what you mean here?

Basically we have the difference you pointed out in 85. I see what you'd call a shit posty read during first few pages of d1 as town indicative, because, in general but especially d1, I think scum put an inordinate amount of effort into making their reads sound reasonable. At the same time, the most pro-town move is to generate enough conversation that town has something worth reading in the first place, irrespective of whether or not the way that you generate that conversation is through a shit post or not

Ok thank you, turns out I did understand what you meant in the first place lol.

Whether it was his intention or not, it has gotten us out of RVS pretty quickly and got at least a few of us engaging with each other. I guess I would lean town on Psyche because of this, but just slightly so.

And listen, I love shit posting and know how you can post that way and progress the game as well

[MargotRosa]

I have no scum reads atm, but that seems to check out with my return to the site. Not necessarily the worst move, as I think I was probably quite trigger happy in the past, and it's also only page 4, but thought I'd point it out.

[Doctor Drew]

I have no scum reads atm, but that seems to check out with my return to the site. Not necessarily the worst move, as I think I was probably quite trigger happy in the past, and it's also only page 4, but thought I'd point it out.

Hmmm, seems odd that you feel the need to point that out.

When you were 'trigger happy', were you like that as both alignments?

[MargotRosa]

Yes, and it nearly cost me a scum game, and did cost me a town game

[MargotRosa]

Point being that I don't think it makes much sense to do for either alignment

[Psyche]

i…i liked the way you counted your odds of landing a vote on scum, okay?

I thought this might be what you were thinking, but yeah thats really weak. I... don't think scum could possibly be confused enough to try to give the odds of someone being town from a scum PoV because the concept makes no sense from the PoV of someone who already knows. :?

i disagree!

[Doctor Drew]

i…i liked the way you counted your odds of landing a vote on scum, okay?

I thought this might be what you were thinking, but yeah thats really weak. I... don't think scum could possibly be confused enough to try to give the odds of someone being town from a scum PoV because the concept makes no sense from the PoV of someone who already knows.

i disagree!

Totally apropos to nothing game related......but does the name Peregrine mean anything to you?

[Psyche]

yes

[Doctor Drew]

yes

Like, were you my scum buddy in Boons Ahoy?

[Psyche]

sorry i don't recall that game
are you peregrinev?