Open 474 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over!

[Klick]

Actually I kinda doubt Jacob is scum as well, he can be moved up

[Human Destroyer]

Yes obviously, you should know.

But seriously I kind of forgot that Goodmorning was in the game...

lol distancing

Firstly,
UNVOTE:

Secondly don't really get what thus whole GM thing is, personally I haven't seen it but then again maybe need to read closer.

Wouldn't be that bad alone, but:

Having re read the game I realise I was an idiot. Jennifer is town, I really need to read more closely.

Out of the two competing wagons

I'd go for GM just based on someone of his earlier posts

, however HD brings up a good point against Panzar so will be willing to swap at the deadline. Will post more derailed thoughts probably D2, my weekend kind of disappeared. x

P-edit: Cherry who would you say are Her possible partners if that's the case?

Considering he didn't even know about the GM case earlier...just lol

[Human Destroyer]

Also Klick you need to back up your reads

Just sayin'

[serrapaladin]

Yeah I thought the Goodmorning AA9 stuff was town on town, so that was surprising, but I was expecting panzer to live the night, mason or no.
I have no idea at this point. Bricks have been shat.

Why would you think that he'd survive? He was a claimed mason, and scum had no reason to doubt that claim, plus he was instrumental in getting GM lynched.

I see the remaining two scum among Jacob, Nic, HD, and Mehdi Hydra, in approximate order of likelihood.

I'd like to see a Nic wagon alongside Jacob's.

VOTE: NicCage

[Human Destroyer]

^There's a perfectly good wagon on your largest scum read, why are you voting your second highest?

[Klick]

Votecount 1.14

goodmorning (Lynch!):

Klick, Panzerjager,

serrapaladin,

KX,

ArcAngel9,

Jennifer,

borkjerfkin

Jennifer (L-3):

Docteur Gudsight, Cheery Dog,

JacobSavage,

NicCage

Panzerjager (L-5):

goodmorning,

Human Destroyer

This kinda makes me doubt HD-scum.

[Klick]

Also Klick you need to back up your reads

Just sayin'

I'm gonna find the scum first.

[serrapaladin]

HD, this early in the day I'd rather see a counterwagon with another scumspect of mine.

[Human Destroyer]

No that's a terrible idea, and here's why:

A counterwagon by definition is supposed to get people off one player in order to get them on another.

Making a competing wagon when your top scumread is already being wagoned makes no sense at all.

[serrapaladin]

I'm not trying to draw votes away from Jacob. This early in the day, we probably won't quicklynch and we will have a competing wagon. I'd most like those wagons on Jacob and Nic, and the Jacob wagon has already started, so I went for Nic. We won't learn much from a single wagon and two competing wagons on scum is the optimal situation. I've expressed that Jacob is my top scumread and when it comes down to getting someone lynched I will vote for him. Even if you don't agree, why does this bother you?

[Klick]

I don't think either of them should be wagons.

[PJ.]

1: I'm The Best

2: BAh

3: Go town

[borkjerfkin]

serra this is moonlogic

[ArcAngel9]

I like the Jacob wagon... Therefore, VOTE: Jacob
but Cherry also been null so for.. i have also thoughts on himm..
Jacob you have got some explanation to do..

[Cheery Dog]

Interesting that the entire jacob wagon fell apart while jennifer one still stood at the same amount of votes almost the whole of the last week of day 1, with goodmorning now flipped scum, I think what remains of my venrob = obvscum may be invalid and the jennifer wagon is actually on stalled town with others being reluctant to change their read of josh. This probably means there its scum on that wagon. (thanks for doing that vote count for us klick)

Since my gut tells me jacob is also probably town, niccage is weird and possible scum, but the hydra had a post near the end of yesterday which makes me want to vote them over nic
VOTE: docture gudsight

[KX]

that post being? and anything else about the Hydra you want to add?

[ArcAngel9]

Votecount 1.14

goodmorning (Lynch!):

Klick, Panzerjager,

serrapaladin,

KX,

ArcAngel9,

Jennifer,

borkjerfkin

Jennifer (L-3):

Docteur Gudsight, Cheery Dog,

JacobSavage,

NicCage

Panzerjager (L-5):

goodmorning,

Human Destroyer

This kinda makes me doubt HD-scum.

That's were we could be wrong about...
There is good chance of Scum in the secondary wagon...
Jacob
Docteur
Cheery
NicCage

[Klick]

Votecount 1.14

goodmorning (Lynch!):

Klick, Panzerjager,

serrapaladin,

KX,

ArcAngel9,

Jennifer,

borkjerfkin

Jennifer (L-3):

Docteur Gudsight, Cheery Dog,

JacobSavage,

NicCage

Panzerjager (L-5):

goodmorning,

Human Destroyer

This kinda makes me doubt HD-scum.

That's were we could be wrong about...
There is good chance of Scum in the secondary wagon...
Jacob
Docteur
Cheery
NicCage

That was my initial thought. I feel pretty good about there being one scum in {Cheery, Docteur}.

[Cheery Dog]

wait that was pointless me thanking klick, I forgot we had a twilight between the final votecount and the lynch scene. (I didn't expect that and it didn't register into my memory when I saw it when reading the GM flip though to today). and started paying attention to the thread today and from the panzer death scene)

Anyway it's the reverse in the opinion of Niccage between these two posts (I do realise they are 3 hours apart), but they feel to me like they're just faking agreeance in things.

My other half's opinion on him basically boils down to too much fence sitting and lack of pushing much. Personally I'd rather look at klick if it's what we're basing things off primarily because of associations he has vs nic and the way they've voted.

~M

Omg i just reread its iso and i don't see any fence-sitting anymore. No idea about what crossed my mind, or if i just hallucinated.

ABORT NICCAGE WAGON. ABORT.

~ Els

@Medhi, had you looked at NicCage's ISO yourself and actually have the same feelings at that stage?

[Jennifer]

VOTE: Docteur Gudsight

I'm more confident that the hydra is scum with GM than anyone else thus far.

[serrapaladin]

I think panzer's very first post about a GM, HD, Hydra scumteam may actually have been correct.

[Human Destroyer]

Possible V/LA over this weekend for large snowstorm hitting the area. I will probably be active, but just in case, I'd prefer to be treated as V/LA.

FoS: serra

[Human Destroyer]

Alright I posted that everywhere now I can explain the FoS

serra's posts do not in any way, shape, or form reflect her voting today. Currently she's voting NicCage when, in the post she voted him in, JacobSavage was her "scummiest read"? She now switches to saying the scumteam is GM/HD/Docteur, without voting one of them?

Scum team is GM/Jacob/serra.

[Human Destroyer]

Yeah in serra's ISO I see a lot of town reading GM without explanation, a lot of "Let's see what happens", and then a complete flip around at deadline; bussing a partner for town cred.

[KX]

Hey HD, why not accuse me, I did almost the same thing? Could it be since Panzer was correct and you want to get out of a possible bad spot, and think you've got a better shot against serra then against me? tempted to vote you, but don't see a point to it atm. Also, @Bork, what did you see last second that made you hammer?