Mini 1668 - Mafia in Bremen - Game Over!

[Rune]

The difference is that now, as I clearly stated, it looks like you're backtracking to justify a position you want to have, but didn't have before even though you clearly had time to respond to those same posts before (and did, but just didn't make those points.

1. I don't care if you understand, you're not helping town.
2. Palkia Quick-Hammered. Havoc has posted real scummy and there was a counter-wagon on him. That's the difference.
4. The post was 3 sentences. 1 was bullshit. It's not like I'm accusing him of bad grammar and saying the post is garbage. The post is garbage because 1/3 of it is a lie. So I don't actually know what you're talking about and you're being really obtuse.
5. Havoc was very close to being lynched. He had 5 votes and at least 2 people ready to vote/hammer, who were just waiting for his defense / claim. Are you even paying attention? Also, if you admit (which you already have), that PB wagon was scum driven, then how is Havoc town? It would have been far more practical and less suspicious to just lynch town Havoc than go through a really suspicious hammer of PB.

Re: RC. WIFOM.

[Rune]

@Jake

While I sympathise with the Palkia vote, I don't think it's going anywhere. Please reconsider Havoc. Or, at least, provide a case why a Havoc vote is not a good vote.

[Jake from State Farm]

Why does palkia get a free ride? I'm suspicious of havoc also and have no problem switching my vote but I'm not comfortable with how he's being let off the hook for his scummy play. Until he posts or his replacement posts something to convince me my read is wrong. I see no reason to compromise this early. We still have plenty of time.

[Rune]

That's fair. Palkia should not get a free ride.

[Oversoul]

Why does palkia get a free ride? I'm suspicious of havoc also and have no problem switching my vote but I'm not comfortable with how he's being let off the hook for his scummy play. Until he posts or his replacement posts something to convince me my read is wrong. I see no reason to compromise this early. We still have plenty of time.

You're not exactly pressuring Palkia with your vote. Even if you were applying pressure correctly, it wouldn't matter since Palkia is now MIA like Havoc.

[Oversoul]

Although...

HMMM

[Oversoul]

Ah never mind. I'm getting games mixed up

[Oversoul]

But anyway

Nikanor, Palkia reached 5 days 22 hours without a post, why wasn't he prodded with the rest of the lurkers?

Oops. ~Nik

[Nikanor]

Vote Count 2.03

HaVoC (3)

- Elyse, Rune, NotAnAxehole

Rune (3)

- TheReverend, BlueBloodedToffee, Hostile Intent

Palkia (1)

- Jake from State Farm

Hostile Intent (1)

- Oversoul

Not Voting (3)

- TheDudeAbides, Palkia, HaVoC

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-22 23:19:00).

Palkia has been prodded.

[Elyse]

Don't like the wagon on Rune but I like TheReverend's paranoia and him coming out and saying he's playing poorly and could understand scumreads on him seems pretty town.

I was slightly townreading BBT and HI but I don't really like their wagon hops.

Havoc is still the best lynch imo. Oversoul and Axe are my other top scumreads but both basically rely on Havoc being scum so I think that's the best place today.

I don't see the Palkia townread either.

[Oversoul]

Ok, I lied to get Nikanor to post

What are the chances that Nikanor didn't prod Palkia because Nikanor knew Palkia was active because Palkia was scum?
This theory depends on several assumptions.
That Palkia was active during the night (submitted a night action, could possibly not be scum in that case)
That TDA and Havoc are VTs
That Nikanor did *not* make a mistake

Hmmmm
I will be curious to see how this all plays out at the end of the game

[TheReverend]

What are the chances that Nikanor didn't prod Palkia because Nikanor knew Palkia was active because Palkia was scum?

This is the opposite of helpful.

[Jake from State Farm]

Why does palkia get a free ride? I'm suspicious of havoc also and have no problem switching my vote but I'm not comfortable with how he's being let off the hook for his scummy play. Until he posts or his replacement posts something to convince me my read is wrong. I see no reason to compromise this early. We still have plenty of time.

You're not exactly pressuring Palkia with your vote. Even if you were applying pressure correctly, it wouldn't matter since Palkia is now MIA like Havoc.

If.he was here I.could.properly pressure him...

[Rune]

I really don't think we're going to be getting a lot done by waiting for replacements for 3 more people. I don't think a Havoc replacement coming in is going to change much.

I understand if anyone wants to keep D2 going, and if more people were active, I'd agree. I think I've developed my reads today just about as far as they're going to go. I'm ready for a Havoc lynch now.

So... Oversoul? Jake? Rev? HI? [Or, 2 votes + random Palkia hammer]

[Hostile Intent]

Where the fuck is that Palkia gentleman?

That's concerning.

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: Rune

[NotAnAxehole]

Rune is L-2

[Jake from State Farm]

why are you voting rune? why not wait until we at least get some replacements?

[Rune]

VOTE: Rune

why are you voting rune? why not wait until we at least get some replacements?

This game is clearly not worth waiting for.

Axe is just trolling, not a big deal.

[NotAnAxehole]

why are you voting rune? why not wait until we at least get some replacements?

he's so comfortable, it would be great if 2 lurkers came in and quick lynched him without claim.

[Jake from State Farm]

[NotAnAxehole]

VOTE: Havoc

As to not play against my win condition, I will side with Rune, despite how hilarious I would find it if he died.

[Rune]

VOTE: Havoc

As to not play against my win condition, I will side with Rune, despite how hilarious I would find it if he died.

The amount of time I would save in my life if I was lynched from this game.....

Let's just lynch Havoc and get to D3. I have no confidence in lurkers showing up and have no interest in dealing with yet more replacements who won't read the game or who will just lurk and need to be replaced [again]. If anyone feels like contributing something new to the game (ie, Overgoat if you want to claim scum) then I'll listen, but really, my attention span for this is wearing thin.

I'm done moving my vote around today (unless Overlamb claims scum or some similarly odd event happens as indicated above).

I'm starting to run out of dumb ways of misremembering OverEwe's name / avatar so that is also an indicator that this day is over.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Havoc

Saving Nikanor from finding a replacement for 3 people, I guess. Marginal utility in that.
I think we are all letting HI get away with way too much coasting. Same for Jake who is happy to literally do nothing.

[Rune]

Havoc at L-2

Let's just get this over with please.